• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Jok

Well-Known Member
Jul 9, 2019
774
657
49
Indiana
✟57,261.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Engaged
The problem is that there is an increasing attack on the authority of the Bible, even amongst professing Christians. The main opposition to Creation Evangelists has come from Christians and pastors who hold to theistic evolution, or progressive creation as many call it. The sad thing about this is that we either accept the literal words of the Bible as authoritative in every part of it, or we treat it as just a religious book that has no authority over us at all. A gospel preacher would not be able to say to his listeners, "You must be born again" because without the backing of an authoritative Bible, they are just meaningless words. It also means that the Ten Commandments have no authority, and that "anything goes" in the way people choose to live their lives, and that they can be free to adopt any interpretation that suits them, and they can believe in a God they feel comfortable with. People will just choose their own standards of morality, fulfilling the Scripture:
"There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death" (Proverbs 14:12).
But to be made in the image of God is a state of conscious awareness. It’s a mental description not a physical one.
 
Upvote 0

Paul James

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2020
408
116
78
Christchurch
✟3,275.00
Country
New Zealand
Gender
Male
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
Quite the reverse, the problem is that unless thinking, responsible adults take it upon themselves to properly understand the bible they will continue to believe anything some equally ignorant person in the pulpit tells them is true.
I think it is a mistake to generalise. The Bible was written clearly for people to understand what is actually there and not to try to read into what is not actually on the page in front of them. Good Bible teachers will support their teaching from the authority of the Scripture itself and not some "sub-text" interpretation of it.
 
Upvote 0

Tom 1

Optimistic sceptic
Site Supporter
Nov 13, 2017
12,212
12,468
Tarnaveni
✟864,159.00
Country
Romania
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I think it is a mistake to generalise. The Bible was written clearly for people to understand what is actually there and not to try to read into what is not actually on the page in front of them. Good Bible teachers will support their teaching from the authority of the Scripture itself and not some "sub-text" interpretation of it.

People ‘just reading’ the bible are interpreting it according to whatever set of notions they have got used to hearing. Given the sheer breadth of resources on understanding the bible from the perspective of the people who wrote it, there is no excuse for continuing with that kind of on the fly re-interpretation.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jok
Upvote 0

Jok

Well-Known Member
Jul 9, 2019
774
657
49
Indiana
✟57,261.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Engaged
The Bible was written clearly for people to understand what is actually there and not to try to read into what is not actually on the page in front of them. Good Bible teachers will support their teaching from the authority of the Scripture itself and not some "sub-text" interpretation of it.
It wasn’t even an issue until the 19th century. That means you have to apply the principles of timeless truths to it, there’s no such thing as original intent to original audience because ToE was 1800 years into the future.
 
Upvote 0