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I have a copy of the review and know the truth here.
I have seen the pms sent back and forth and know how this went down.
I can say right here and now this was not done completely honestly and Admins from another team MUST be brought in to hear this appeal to be fair and consistent.

That's quite an accusation you're making there. So you're saying that PM's that had previously only been seen by members of the Review Committee, Ben Johnson, and myself, were fwd'd to you. Is that correct? You're not on staff any longer. So who sent them to you?

The biggest problem I have with your suppositions here is this:

I back this as well

you have the backing of me, christian73, angeldove97, and geocajun (the RC members who were online that I asked)

However, I strongly suggest you have Ben or someone else do it.

Thanks,
Constance

You've accused Ben and I of issuing an FSB against suzy without support from the members of the Review Committee, but these PM's show otherwise.

Many of you in this thread are here to accuse me of being a "bad mod" a "bad admin" a "liar" etc. Let me ask you this: Of all of us here, who's the one reaching out to the new members? Who's the one in the prayer forums? Who's the one befriending the Atheists because whether they believe in G-d or not, they have the right to feel loved? Who? I don't see any of you doing that. What I see you doing, is what you're doing here, and a lot of it.

Now you have seen evidence that Ben did indeed have support from the RC to issue the FSB. Those PM's were not made public until a few days ago. So why don't you tell us all I'ddie, who told you it didn't happen?

There are 3 options here:
1. There is a leak on the RC and it's one of the people that didn't sign the support PM's.
2. There is a leak on the RC and it's one of the people who did sign the support PM but didn't want you to know how it really went down.
3. There was never a leak and you made it up.

Which is it?

 

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Personally, I will reserve any final judgment until that time. The good thing is that it will be completely public and we can all decide for ourselves the best course of action.

Yes I see how you're doing that....

Personally I had felt that Adiya was doing a good job in her function as a moderator. What i'm seeing leaves me feeling much less confident of her abilities as an Administrator, and things that have occured today are causing me to be leery of her moderation ability (specifically, the ability to recognize a conflict of interest).

IMO, it seems to me that most likely Adiya made a mistake on something and for some reason could not face up to it. Since that point, the mistake has been compounded by violations due to that conflict of interest and has snowballed.

I feel like i'm seeing someone who has made a bad choice and rather than step back and correct the mistake just keeps digging further and further hoping to find daylight.

Adiya, if you could step back and honestly see where you are harming yourself with the constant attempt to protect yourself even though it violates that conflict of interest I see no reason why you would need to be removed. Whatever the issue between you and Suzybeezy is is none of my concern. An administrator that cannot recognize when they are using their power solely to protect themselves at the expense of members does concern me greatly though. You have shown yourself to be very adept at avoiding bias regarding 'hot topic' issues and I would hate to see us lose an administrator with that quality because you cannot recognize your bias on matters that affect you personally and individually.

I hope you take my words to heart, they are not meant to wound or harm, but encourage you to see where you might have set off on an unwanted path

 

[NPH]

Yes I see how you're doing that....

Adiya, I am assuming this was meant to be sarcastic. If you honestly meant it, then I am gratified that you took what I said to heart and I hope it helps you to find a way through this current mess.

But, assuming it is sarcasm, then this is merely another example of the problem you are dealing with right now. Even when someone is trying to be helpful, unless they come out and say "Adiya's right, everyone else is wrong!" you go into defensive mode and assume they are out to get you and so you attack attack attack ... and that's what is lending so much weight to the petition for recall.

Adiya, you really have to know this. It's the only thing I can think of to say that might get through to you at the moment:

I know you appreciate the OP's support of you. I'm sure you find him to be an ally in this time of difficulty for you. I know you'll probably be surprised to find that the post of mind you quoted, he repped me for and agreed with what I am observing and suggesting.

Think about that. He's not your enemy and he found what I said to have worth and to be useful to you. And that is what it was. I never once in that post condemned you.

I have not made a judgment, but your activities are not being helpful to yourself. The only person who can make my mind up about whether I would agree or disagree with a vote for recall is YOU. So go out and show everyone that you are a great mod and admin and just do your job and stop running all over the forums feeling you have to defend yourself. If you just do your job properly, then there's nothing to defend against.

 

[suzybeezy]

I have begged and continue to beg for the review that occured in private be made public. Erwin said it should have never occured in private. As it looks now, this just jumped outta the blue, and that's not the case. Its been mounting for about 2 months. I honestly believe had things been "nipped in the bud" earlier, things would have never gotten to the point they have now.

But please let it be known, I tried to resolve the concerns through a pm. I got no where but harsh and defensive response, same that others who tried got.

The biggest concern at the time was arbitrarily editing posts to blank thus removing its content with no report, no violation. That's just plain wrong! Several examples of this practice were provided. Despite efforts to stop this practice, it continued. And since i couldn't get it to stop through the pm method, I had no choice but to escalate it to the Review committee as provided by protocol. Since that time things have gotten much worse, there's been numerous violations and escalating egregious behavior. The current system holds admins accountable to members and the review committee.

It was on their instruction that reports were made, and why you see the resulting reviews going on currently. You'll note that the reviews are being generated from multiple sources.

The process of acquiring signatures on the petition are part of protocol and a necessary step since prior efforts to resolve the concerns failed. The proper amount of signatures must be received before the recall can be made public. If the proper amount of signatures aren't received, then no recall happens. The full recall process can be read - http://foru.ms/faq.php?faq=job_descriptions#faq_staff_recall

 

[Amoranemix]

I agree with Captain Yesterday’s analysis.

(I am a layman concerning the music industry, so I merely read the following from a journalist.) Paris Hilton recently had to do a few weeks of prison time and her indignant attitude was part of the reason. Apparently her (rich) mother was the type to expect a lot of her daughter and blame any incidents on others. Thus Paris did not learn to take responsibility for her mistakes and look for the causes of those mistakes within her, which makes it difficult for her to better herself.

Adiya, you strategy in this crisis seems to be disaster. Rather than just facing the initial charges of staff misconduct, you are just piling up more evidence. Those that accuse don’t have to dig anymore to find anything against you, they just have to collect the daily incidents involving you. Most of the latest charges involve you defending yourself or those that support you. Defend yourself differently or stop defending yourself altogether.

You handled the mediation by Saucy very badly. From what I could see, he came to you as a friend, recommended something you didn’t like, then you dumped him and posted some stuff that you shouldn’t to ‘defend’ (read incriminate) yourself. He almost joined the ‘enemy’ camp. In the same CR thread Lisa0315 feared you would also turn against her. When you are defending yourself, those who have a grudge against you are rubbing their hands. They don’t have to damage your reputation or pull your friends away from you as you are doing that dirty work for them.

Another illustrative example of how you rally people against you is your accusation against an administrator that she joined the petition against you, while apparently she merely disagreed on the creation of a new team. So don’t conclude that anyone who disagrees with you dislikes you. Eventually you apologized to her, which was I think the right thing to and which you should probably do more often.

I find many reports and Reviews against you are amounting to harassment or spite, but many are valid ones too. Stop giving people good reason to report you. Stop overreporting people as well. Use those grey cells of yours to think about how to solve this problem you are facing. You seem to be trapped in a self-destructive mindset on how you should deal with the situation. Step out of it and reflect on the problem from a different angle. I have recently seen a documentary about a plane squadron that disappeared over the Bermuda triangle. Part of the recent conclusion of the investigation is that the experienced captain who led the squadron had misevaluated the situation (their position) and refused to listen to evidence to the contrary. So they run out of fuel and fell in the sea.

I suggest you ask for advice to some friends and don’t snap at them for writing something you don’t want to read. Consider that their advice may actually be good advice.

 

[BlueAfgani]

Quite the show we have here.

 

[NPH]

Quite the show we have here.

And it's getting more interesting by the day.

Apparently, to subvert the recall process it has been announced that Adiya will be leaving the Admin position and transferring to the Ecumenical Team so that there will be no recall. That hardly seems to adhere to the recall protocol.

Further, a moderator may not transfer teams without a vote by the members of the forums they are going to, yet this transfer is going to go through without a vote apparently. It has been how many weeks now since Praying was voted approved for a transfer to Debate Team and she still has not been put on the team? Another violation of protocol here.

And it gets better. Now Adiya has started a Wiki stating that only members of the Ecumenical Staff Team may petition for a recall of a member of the Ecumenical Staff Team. Yet another violation of forum protocol.

I still withhold judgment, but I must say that if I were put to a vote right now I could not, in good conscience, vote against the recall. There is something extremely rotten in Denmark and people are trying to cover it all up with roses and make it go away. And in the process, the members are having their voices silenced and their rules and votes nullified.

I was really hoping that Adiya would just start trying to be a darn good Debate Team admin. Then I could have voted against the recall. Sad how christianity seems to be so riddled with lies, sneakiness and blatant attempts to violate the rules for personal gain