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@daq I also forgot to add that

5977 AM = 507-508 AD according to the revised timeline I've proposed and laid out in my work. For the sake of having a reference point this is still 2021-2022 AD according to our modern unrevised timeline.
 
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Yes brother you're correct again in your assessment here, and I came to the same conclusion as you did. That is why I said that we haven't been told all the historical facts truthfully, I'm really pleased you do understand the implications of my work.

Your conclusions based on what I have said, even though I have not said that I agree with your theory, are also quite fascinating.
 
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@daq I also forgot to add that

5977 AM = 507-508 AD according to the revised timeline I've proposed and laid out in my work. For the sake of having a reference point this is still 2021-2022 AD according to our modern unrevised timeline.

What does that mean? Somehow we've lost another 22 years since you first posted this thread? Are you saying the date for the return of the Messiah is now 507-508AD? or that this current year is 507-508AD?
 
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Your conclusions based on what I what I have said, even though I have not said that I agree with your theory, are also quite fascinating.
Don't worry I understand the difference brother. I simply said I agreed with your conclusion that the printing press would have occured BC and not AD. Your calculations are off by 21 Years but, that is a minor point...because in general you get the main point.
 
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What does that mean? Somehow we've lost another 22 years since you first posted this thread? Are you saying the date for the return of the Messiah is now 507-508AD? or that this current year is 507-508AD?
Only that 507-508 AD is the current year.
 
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Don't worry I understand the difference brother. I simply said I agreed with your conclusion that the printing press would have occured BC and not AD. Your calculations are off by 21 Years but, that is a minor point...because in general you et the main point.

When I say "according to your theory", that means it is a conclusion calculated according to your numbers and your theory, not that it is also my own conclusion in agreement with your assessments. My conclusion, based on the overwhelming evidence against your theory, (some of which I have tried to present in a manner that would hopefully not be too offensive), is that your theory is very seriously flawed.

For example, because the Gutenberg Bible would have been printed before the advent of the Messiah, according to your theory, that fact means that, imo, your theory is therefore incorrect. What I presented doesn't mean that I believe the dating of the Gutenberg Bible is a grand conspiracy or scheme to fool the world: no, it means I believe your theory is seriously flawed and incorrect.
 
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When I say "according to your theory", that means it is a conclusion calculated according to your numbers and your theory, not that it is also my own conclusion in agreement with your assessments. My conclusion, based on the overwhelming evidence against your theory, (some of which I have tried to present in a manner that would hopefully not be too offensive), is that your theory is very seriously flawed.

For example, because the Gutenberg Bible would have been printed before the advent of the Messiah, according to your theory, that fact means that, imo, your theory is therefore incorrect. What I presented doesn't mean that I believe the dating of the Gutenberg Bible is a grand conspiracy or scheme to fool the world: no, it means I believe your theory is seriously flawed and incorrect.
As I said already I get you're still against what I have to say...you've simply now just arrived and looked at at what I have already considered.
 
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For the sake of having a reference point this is still 2021-2022 AD according to our modern unrevised timeline.


Oh good. for a minute you had me worried there.
 
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Oh good. for a minute you had me worried there.
Well for me I have no qualms or issues saying we're in the 6th Century AD. But since I understand that many people will not have gone to the great lengths as I have in my work, I simply keep the traditional dates as data reference points for everyone to follow along with since it's too shocking for the majority to accept...this is high level stuff we're discussing here.
 
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Well for me I have no qualms or issues saying we're in the 6th Century AD. But since I understand that many people will not have gone to the great lengths as I have in my work, I simply keep the traditional dates as data reference points for everyone to follow along with since it's too shocking for the majority to accept...this is high level stuff we're discussing here.

So I find your idea really interesting, and respectfully would like to asl you a few questions on it; I am not a Messianic Jew but I respect and love Hebrew Christianity in all of its forms and I appreciate Messianic Jewry enormously.

I have three somewhat low level questions, and then a more interesting one: firstly, why do you refer to the “death of Christ” rather than the “resurrection of Christ?” in your initial theory?

Secondly, is it your contention that in fact only 500 calendar years, of approximately 365.25 days in duration, with each day lasting 24 hours, have elapsed since the resurrection and ascension of our Lord? Also, why 500 and not 497 considering that was when his ascension was believed to have occurred?

Now, finally, and most interestingly, if you do consider that only 500 years have elapsed, how do you account for the historical events that are recorded? Like, do you regard it as a false memory or shared delusion? This is the idea of yours I am most interested in.
 
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As I said already I get you're still against what I have to say...you've simply now just arrived and looked at at what I have already considered.

Still incorrect. I have never questioned the date given for when the KJV Bible was published and I do not question the dating given for the Gutenberg Bible either, at least not within a couple of years: it's estimated to have been 1455AD, but some simply say around 1450AD, or the middle of the fifteenth century. I have never questioned these dates and I do not question them now even after having seen your theory.
 
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So I find your idea really interesting, and respectfully would like to asl you a few questions on it; I am not a Messianic Jew but I respect and love Hebrew Christianity in all of its forms and I appreciate Messianic Jewry enormously.
Welcome brother! It's great to see more and more people coming towards the light of truth :clap:

I have three somewhat low level questions, and then a more interesting one: firstly, why do you refer to the “death of Christ” rather than the “resurrection of Christ?” in your initial theory?
While His death and resurrection only occurred 3 Days and 3 Nights apart from one another in the same year from creation: I refer to His death because our current canon mystically points to Christ dying 5,500 Years from creation. The only biblical manuscript which confirms this number is the Septuagint which contains a longer chronology than the Masoretic Text, and this may be confirmed by looking at the Wikipedia page which shows that the early Church was using the 5,500 Years from creation well into the Middle Ages:

Dating creation - Wikipedia.

You've got to look under the tab Abrahamic religions to see what I'm talking about. Now it must be understood the Septuagint was translated 284 Years before Christ was born during the reign of king Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
The main source text for this story is the Letter of Aristeas, and Philo of Alexandria and Flavius Josephus are our earliest witnesses to confirm this fact.

Why 5,500 Years? Well only three apocryphal writings address this:
  1. 1st Book of Adam and Eve 3
  2. Life of Adam and Eve 42 (Latin Version)
  3. Gospel of Nicodemus 22
These hyper links will take you straight to their source texts and relevant chapters. Otherwise these are the only three writings which explicitly tell us that God set 5,500 Years from Adam to the death of Christ. The first mention in our Canon is the creation week: the whole week represents 7 Cycles of 1,000 Years, and Adam is the prototype of Christ, and seeing that He was created in the middle of the 6th Day...we know that Christ will die and rise from the dead after 5,500 Years; after 6,000 Years Christ will rule the earth for 1,000 Years just as we read in Revelation; and at the expiration of 7,000 Years comes the dearest of Satan and the Final Judgment.

Secondly, is it your contention that in fact only 500 calendar years, of approximately 365.25 days in duration, with each day lasting 24 hours, have elapsed since the resurrection and ascension of our Lord? Also, why 500 and not 497 considering that was when his ascension was believed to have occurred?
Well it depends on where you begin your count from. The Anno Domini timeline replaced the then used Anno Diocletiani timeline, the latter timeline counted how many years passed from the beginning of Diocletian's reign when he began to persecute the Church; the new system counts the number of years from the birth of Christ.

Therefore there are 507 Years from the birth of Christ to our modern day, but 477 Years from His death to our present day. And this is because Christ died at 30 Years old.

Now, finally, and most interestingly, if you do consider that only 500 years have elapsed, how do you account for the historical events that are recorded? Like, do you regard it as a false memory or shared delusion? This is the idea of yours I am most interested in.
I stated somewhere on page 1 of this thread that I don't regard all of the other periods as false or true. I believe there are some false histories created and mixed with the true history, that said I believe that some very learned historians and chronologists elongated the timeline by placing the reigns of various rulers successively instead of simultaneously in order to give the appearance of a long span of time. However it's been well known among academia that there is very little archaeological evidence to support the Middle Ages...and many supposed documents and artifacts have questionable provenance, and that's not even counting all the forged documents and "holy relics" fabricated by the Catholic church.
 
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Still incorrect. I have never questioned the date given for when the KJV Bible was published and I do not question the dating given for the Gutenberg Bible either, at least not within a couple of years: it's estimated to have been 1455AD, but some simply say around 1450AD, or the middle of the fifteenth century. I have never questioned these dates and I do not question them now even after having seen your theory.
Look it's fine to disagree...if you don't accept it you don't accept it.
 
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Only that 507-508 AD is the current year.

Ah, thank you, so 2022AD is 507-508AD, (according to your calculations), and since you say Messiah is returning in 530AD that would mean 22 years from 2022AD, which is 2044AD.

530AD (2044AD) -508AD (2022AD) = 22 years

Which year of which Olympiad would that be? :D

I noticed you tinker with those numbers too. In one place you said the first Olympiad was in 778BC, (it's actually not the first but rather the first known winner and where the count was begun, but that's beside the point), when most historians agree on 776BC.

Then, in the same place, you claimed that Rome was founded by Romulus in the 7th Olympiad, and counted that as 28 years in your calculations, when the commonly accepted date is April 21, 753BC, which is the fourth year of the 6th Olympiad and only 24 years instead 28 years as you claim.

This might not seem to be a big deal to others who do not study such things but when you use this to substantiate a timeline so as to date either the birth or the crucifixion of the Messiah, those seemingly insignificant years suddenly make a huge difference.

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...now we can get the Anno Domini date for the founding of Rome seeing that it was founded in the 7th Olympiad...

Birth of Christ to Founding of Rome by Romulus
7 Olympiads x 4 Years = 28 Years
778 Years - 28 Years = 750 Years
0 BC - 750 Years = -750 BC

[End Quote. England, Ireland, and Scotland Know the Year Christ Was Born

The Olympiad, Calenders & Time - International Institute for Sport History
 
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Ah, thank you, so 2022AD is 507-508AD, (according to your calculations), and since you say Messiah is returning in 530AD that would mean 22 years from 2022AD, which is 2044AD.

530AD (2044AD) -508AD (2022AD) = 22 years

Which year of which Olympiad would that be? :D

I noticed you tinker with those numbers too. In one place you said the first Olympiad was in 778BC, (it's actually not the first but rather the first known winner and where the count was begun, but that's beside the point), when most historians agree on 776BC.

Then, in the same place, you claimed that Rome was founded by Romulus in the 7th Olympiad, and counted that as 28 years in your calculations, when the commonly accepted date is April 21, 753BC, which is the fourth year of the 6th Olympiad and only 24 years instead 28 years as you claim.

This might not seem to be a big deal to others who do not study such things but when you use this to substantiate a timeline so as to date either the birth or the crucifixion of the Messiah, those seemingly insignificant years suddenly make a huge difference.

Quote, Humble Penny:]
...now we can get the Anno Domini date for the founding of Rome seeing that it was founded in the 7th Olympiad...

Birth of Christ to Founding of Rome by Romulus
7 Olympiads x 4 Years = 28 Years
778 Years - 28 Years = 750 Years
0 BC - 750 Years = -750 BC

[End Quote. England, Ireland, and Scotland Know the Year Christ Was Born

The Olympiad, Calenders & Time - International Institute for Sport History
You numbers are off here because when you use the Anno Mundi years:

5977 AM = 2021-2022

That said there are actually 23 Years.

As for the Olympiads it's reallly not difficult to calculate...

Christ died in the 202nd Olympiad
202 Olympiads × 4 Years = 808 Years

Rome Founded in the 7th Olympiad
7 Olympiads × 4 Years = 28 Years

Convert Olympiad to Ab Urbe Condita Years
808 Years - 28 Years = 780 AUC

Death of Christ to Founding of Rome
30 AD - 780 Years = -750 BC

Founding of Rome to 1st Olympiad
-750 BC - 28 Years = -778 BC

From 30 AD to 507 AD are 477 Years so...

477 Years ÷ 4 Years = 119.25 Olympiads
202 Olympiads + 119.25 Olympiads =
321.25 Olympiads × 4 Years = 1,285 Years
507 AD - 1,285 Years = -778 BC


Current Year to Second Coming
23 Years ÷ 4 Years = 5.75 Olympiads
321.25 Olympiads + 5.75 Olympiads =
327 Olympiads


And to be sure that the traditional date for the founding of Rome is incorrect you simply take the 4th Year of the 202nd Olympiad mentioned by Phlegon of Tralles, Jerome, Eusebius, and Origen and count backwards...

202 Olympiads × 4 Years = 808 Years
30 AD - 808 Years = -778 BC


Pretty simple and straightforward arithmetic.
 
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Welcome brother! It's great to see more and more people coming towards the light of truth :clap:


While His death and resurrection only occurred 3 Days and 3 Nights apart from one another in the same year from creation: I refer to His death because our current canon mystically points to Christ dying 5,500 Years from creation. The only biblical manuscript which confirms this number is the Septuagint which contains a longer chronology than the Masoretic Text, and this may be confirmed by looking at the Wikipedia page which shows that the early Church was using the 5,500 Years from creation well into the Middle Ages:

Dating creation - Wikipedia.

You've got to look under the tab Abrahamic religions to see what I'm talking about. Now it must be understood the Septuagint was translated 284 Years before Christ was born during the reign of king Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
The main source text for this story is the Letter of Aristeas, and Philo of Alexandria and Flavius Josephus are our earliest witnesses to confirm this fact.

Why 5,500 Years? Well only three apocryphal writings address this:
  1. 1st Book of Adam and Eve 3
  2. Life of Adam and Eve 42 (Latin Version)
  3. Gospel of Nicodemus 22
These hyper links will take you straight to their source texts and relevant chapters. Otherwise these are the only three writings which explicitly tell us that God set 5,500 Years from Adam to the death of Christ. The first mention in our Canon is the creation week: the whole week represents 7 Cycles of 1,000 Years, and Adam is the prototype of Christ, and seeing that He was created in the middle of the 6th Day...we know that Christ will die and rise from the dead after 5,500 Years; after 6,000 Years Christ will rule the earth for 1,000 Years just as we read in Revelation; and at the expiration of 7,000 Years comes the dearest of Satan and the Final Judgment.


Well it depends on where you begin your count from. The Anno Domini timeline replaced the then used Anno Diocletiani timeline, the latter timeline counted how many years passed from the beginning of Diocletian's reign when he began to persecute the Church; the new system counts the number of years from the birth of Christ.

Therefore there are 507 Years from the birth of Christ to our modern day, but 477 Years from His death to our present day. And this is because Christ died at 30 Years old.


I stated somewhere on page 1 of this thread that I don't regard all of the other periods as false or true. I believe there are some false histories created and mixed with the true history, that said I believe that some very learned historians and chronologists elongated the timeline by placing the reigns of various rulers successively instead of simultaneously in order to give the appearance of a long span of time. However it's been well known among academia that there is very little archaeological evidence to support the Middle Ages...and many supposed documents and artifacts have questionable provenance, and that's not even counting all the forged documents and "holy relics" fabricated by the Catholic church.

The idea of the Dark Ages being shorter than history recalls is conceptually interesting, however, it seems to me a very Western European approach towards looking at it.

For example, there was a golden age of Judaic scholarship, which has influenced Messianic Judaism and Christian theology, which included the split between Karaite and Rabinnical Judaism, the Masoretes and their work, the compilers of the Talmuds of Babylon and Jerusalem, and the excellent philosophical work of Moses Maimonides, who lived in Yemen, a country far removed from either Catholic or Byzantine influence (the Christian population consisted of members of what today survives as the Assyrian Church of the East and the Ancient Church of the East, largely on the island of Socotra; like most members of the Church of the East they were killed by the Islamic warlord Tamerlane in the 12th century). And beyond that, we see the emergence of consolidations of Jewish law, such as the Sulchan Aruch, and the emergence of Kabbalah and Judaic mysticism in the Zohar, and then finally after the anti-Semitic exile of the Jews from Spain and Portugal, we see a diaspora of these Sephardic Jews who interacted with other Jews across Europe and Asia.

Judaism is just one of several civilizations that flourished during the Dark Ages in Western Europe. Conditions in Western Europe were undeniably grim following the downfall of the Western Roman Empire and a period of a thousand years in many respects seems like five hundred, from the perspective of historical progress, or the lack thereof during the Merovingian and Carolignian eras, for example. But outside of Western Europe, we can see technological advances and social advances, and traceable progress, in six geographically distinct Christian communities, namely, the Byzantine Empire and later Kievan Rus and Muscovy, the Coptic and West Syriac Christians of Egypt, Judea, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Persia and Mesopotamia, the East Syriac Christians who spanned a region from Mesopotamia and Persia all across Asia, and who still survive in Iraq, Iran, South India and Eastern Syria, the Kingdom of Ethiopia, which was a Judeo-Christian civilization arguably in its golden age after it converted to Christianity, so we could consider Ethiopia the world’s first Messianic Jewish state if we interpret the Ethiopian Tewahedo Orthodox Church and the extremely similar practice of Judaism by the Beta Israel, and the Christians of the Caucasian isthmus, the Georgians, Armenians, and the unfortunately probably extinct Eastern Albanians* of Azerbaijan (although I have heard of an attempt to restart that church).

So from these civilizations, and the progress they made, as well as what happened with Judaism and Islam during the era of great Arab scholars like Averroes, Avicenna, Al-kwarizmi, and others, and even in the Ottoman Empire, which was something of a dark age unto itself, architects like Sinan, we can see that a period of history more substantial than what happened in Western Europe transpired.

However, it seems to me you could adjust for this in your dating by redefining the duration of a year, since timescales are subjective, especially beyond the Planck Time, and can even vary due to gravitation - time dilation.

Also from a spiritual perspective, I like the idea of Christ’s presence being immediate. In effect, to a great extent, one can say that Christ came before we are born, and we will return to him and face our eschatological outcome when we die.

But to be clear, I do find your idea very interesting, even if I think it doesn’t reconcile with history to the extent you do. And there is a positive message about the immanence of Christ.

*Caucasia has confusing names for places and nationalities. It had Albania, not to be confused with the Adriatic nation north of Greece; Georgia, aside from sharing a name with one of the original thirteen colonies of the United States also is known as Iberia, leading to confusion with the Iberian Peninsula on which Spain and Portugal are located. And there were historically two Armenian kingdoms, one in Armenia proper and one in the region of Cilicia, in the Levant, whose existence overlapped.
 
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The idea of the Dark Ages being shorter than history recalls is conceptually interesting, however, it seems to me a very Western European approach towards looking at it.

For example, there was a golden age of Judaic scholarship, which has influenced Messianic Judaism and Christian theology, which included the split between Karaite and Rabinnical Judaism, the Masoretes and their work, the compilers of the Talmuds of Babylon and Jerusalem, and the excellent philosophical work of Moses Maimonides, who lived in Yemen, a country far removed from either Catholic or Byzantine influence (the Christian population consisted of members of what today survives as the Assyrian Church of the East and the Ancient Church of the East, largely on the island of Socotra; like most members of the Church of the East they were killed by the Islamic warlord Tamerlane in the 12th century). And beyond that, we see the emergence of consolidations of Jewish law, such as the Sulchan Aruch, and the emergence of Kabbalah and Judaic mysticism in the Zohar, and then finally after the anti-Semitic exile of the Jews from Spain and Portugal, we see a diaspora of these Sephardic Jews who interacted with other Jews across Europe and Asia.

Judaism is just one of several civilizations that flourished during the Dark Ages in Western Europe. Conditions in Western Europe were undeniably grim following the downfall of the Western Roman Empire and a period of a thousand years in many respects seems like five hundred, from the perspective of historical progress, or the lack thereof during the Merovingian and Carolignian eras, for example. But outside of Western Europe, we can see technological advances and social advances, and traceable progress, in six geographically distinct Christian communities, namely, the Byzantine Empire and later Kievan Rus and Muscovy, the Coptic and West Syriac Christians of Egypt, Judea, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Persia and Mesopotamia, the East Syriac Christians who spanned a region from Mesopotamia and Persia all across Asia, and who still survive in Iraq, Iran, South India and Eastern Syria, the Kingdom of Ethiopia, which was a Judeo-Christian civilization arguably in its golden age after it converted to Christianity, so we could consider Ethiopia the world’s first Messianic Jewish state if we interpret the Ethiopian Tewahedo Orthodox Church and the extremely similar practice of Judaism by the Beta Israel, and the Christians of the Caucasian isthmus, the Georgians, Armenians, and the unfortunately probably extinct Eastern Albanians* of Azerbaijan (although I have heard of an attempt to restart that church).

So from these civilizations, and the progress they made, as well as what happened with Judaism and Islam during the era of great Arab scholars like Averroes, Avicenna, Al-kwarizmi, and others, and even in the Ottoman Empire, which was something of a dark age unto itself, architects like Sinan, we can see that a period of history more substantial than what happened in Western Europe transpired.

However, it seems to me you could adjust for this in your dating by redefining the duration of a year, since timescales are subjective, especially beyond the Planck Time, and can even vary due to gravitation - time dilation.

Also from a spiritual perspective, I like the idea of Christ’s presence being immediate. In effect, to a great extent, one can say that Christ came before we are born, and we will return to him and face our eschatological outcome when we die.

But to be clear, I do find your idea very interesting, even if I think it doesn’t reconcile with history to the extent you do. And there is a positive message about the immanence of Christ.

*Caucasia has confusing names for places and nationalities. It had Albania, not to be confused with the Adriatic nation north of Greece; Georgia, aside from sharing a name with one of the original thirteen colonies of the United States also is known as Iberia, leading to confusion with the Iberian Peninsula on which Spain and Portugal are located. And there were historically two Armenian kingdoms, one in Armenia proper and one in the region of Cilicia, in the Levant, whose existence overlapped.
Yes no doubt many great things came from many people's outside of Europe. As a matter of fact that's just the problem with the Middle Ages...very euro-centric in it's scope with some sprinkling of Arabs, Jews, and other non-europeans as an after thought. Almost as if these careful editors thought..."We focus too much on Europe so let's include some other nations so we don't look like amateur manipulators."

Aside from this if we trace the roots of rabbinic Judaism we'll see that Rabbi Akiva is a direct descendant of Sisera who was killed by Jael when fleeing from the judges Deborah and Barak. Biblical Judaism on the other hand can trace it's roots back to Moses on Mt. Sinai which ultimately means biblical Judaism comes directly from God and shouldn't be confused with rabbinic Judaism which came way later in history...like the middle of the 2nd Century AD.

That said classical history is very reliable and it's not until after Constantine the Great that the historical record starts getting weird and murky. It's very difficult to sort out a lot of the events following Constantine and even Theodosius I the Great...but the numbers do show that you can't make sense of the Middle Ages without abandoning the longer chronology of the Septuagint and using the shorter chronologies of the Masoretic Text and rabbinic Judaism.
 
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You numbers are off here because when you use the Anno Mundi years:

5977 AM = 2021-2022

That said there are actually 23 Years.

As for the Olympiads it's reallly not difficult to calculate...

Christ died in the 202nd Olympiad
202 Olympiads × 4 Years = 808 Years

Rome Founded in the 7th Olympiad
7 Olympiads × 4 Years = 28 Years

Convert Olympiad to Ab Urbe Condita Years
808 Years - 28 Years = 780 AUC

Death of Christ to Founding of Rome
30 AD - 780 Years = -750 BC

Founding of Rome to 1st Olympiad
-750 BC - 28 Years = -778 BC

From 30 AD to 507 AD are 477 Years so...

477 Years ÷ 4 Years = 119.25 Olympiads
202 Olympiads + 119.25 Olympiads =
321.25 Olympiads × 4 Years = 1,285 Years
507 AD - 1,285 Years = -778 BC


Current Year to Second Coming
23 Years ÷ 4 Years = 5.75 Olympiads
321.25 Olympiads + 5.75 Olympiads =
327 Olympiads


And to be sure that the traditional date for the founding of Rome is incorrect you simply take the 4th Year of the 202nd Olympiad mentioned by Phlegon of Tralles, Jerome, Eusebius, and Origen and count backwards...

202 Olympiads × 4 Years = 808 Years
30 AD - 808 Years = -778 BC


Pretty simple and straightforward arithmetic.

You didn't read the link? And you don't actually believe that Rome was founded in April of 753BC?

778 BC ≠ 776 BC
28 years ≠ 24 years

To quote you:
Pretty simple and straightforward arithmetic.
 
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You didn't read the link? And you don't actually believe that Rome was founded in April of 753BC?

778 BC ≠ 776 BC
28 years ≠ 24 years

To quote you:
Pretty simple and straightforward arithmetic.
It's not hard to see the errors in the link why? Because the writers argument is based on his opinion and not historical fact. We see that his use of the Easter Tables and Gregorian calendar to arrive at their dates is pretty hilarious because those things weren't around during the height of the Roman Empire or the founding of Rome. Furthermore we know that Julius Caesar died March 15th -44 BC according to the traditional dates...when you count forward using the Julian Calendar to Christ's death on Tuesday for Passover in 30 AD you get the date:

March 21st, 30 AD

Now since we know according to Livy that from Romulus to the Roman Republic are 244 Years, and from then to Augustus Caesar in the Second Triumvirate are 464 Years...

244 Years + 464 Years = 708 Years
708 Years × 365.25 Days = 258,597 Days


Count backwards from -44 BC and you get...

March 15th, -752 BC

Here's a useful calculator by ke!san to help you:
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It's not hard to see the errors in the link why? Because the writers argument is based on his opinion and not historical fact. We see that his use of the Easter Tables and Gregorian calendar to arrive at their dates is pretty hilarious because those things weren't around during the height of the Roman Empire or the founding of Rome. Furthermore we know that Julius Caesar died March 15th -44 BC according to the traditional dates...when you count forward using the Julian Calendar to Christ's death on Tuesday for Passover in 30 AD you get the date:

March 21st, 30 AD

Now since we know according to Livy that from Romulus to the Roman Republic are 244 Years, and from then to Augustus Caesar in the Second Triumvirate are 464 Years...

244 Years + 464 Years = 708 Years
708 Years × 365.25 Days = 258,597 Days


Count backwards from -44 BC and you get...

March 15th, -752 BC

Here's a useful calculator by ke!san to help you:
Add to or Subtract from a Date Calculator

:doh:

That was one of a thousand more links that say the same about the first Olympiad being counted as 776BC and not 778BC. What happens if your chronology for the birth of Messiah is off by merely these two years? Well, it's pretty simple math: your whole spiel is off by two years, and that's just the one error, not even counting all the others.

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