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dont look back on the past. it will hold you back and you will be stuck in a limbo of pain, literally. i think the writing a letter idea is a really great one. i remember when my best friend was submitted into hospital on suicide watch, i broke down and was crying all day basically. the councilor called my mum and just informed her what happened, that we were all abit shook up, and not to press the point if i didnt want to talk. i knew she would ignore that and come home demanding to know what had happened. so i typd her a letter. she walked in the door, opened her mouth and i silenced her, put the letter into her hand and walked away. she respected my decision, and because i requested some space and time alone, nicely she allowed it. a letter is a good idea......just remember we all love you heaps......and always will! i will be praying for you with all my soul. my heart goes out to you, such a hard situation you've just been thrown into basically. turn to god throughout your time of need. i know it hurts so much....but god will releive you of the burden. try to go to church and surround yourself with god and christians. ill be praying. if you ever, ever feel the need to talk or want to do something stupid. drop me a pm or email, msn me, anything. thinking of you!
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What's done is done. You can't do anything about it. All you can do is build a better future or at least try. I know it's hard dealing with this things but at all cost don't be so devastated at least you are still alive. Even though your mother had an overdose the future is still bright for you, don't wait for it or make it darker. You've got a lot ahead of you. The future is full of suprises. It would pain your mother and sister if they saw you too die. Just pray and hope for the best. (I am sorry if I didn't allevaite your pain that much, I just want to help out.) (Please don't mind my name.)
 
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Praying that things will improve for you. I haven't been anything like that kind of situation but just from hearing that you are experience it makes me feel bad. I dread to think what you are feeling. i will pray that God will bring you peace and things will settle for you.

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Hi Cgmom,

Do you have a name by which we can call you? It doesn't have to be your real one. It would just be nice to write to you to your "name", since we are talking about such personal issues. But "cgmom" is fine if you prefer to stick with it. :)

Sorry to be a long time replying, but I always want to give time for thoughts to come. Trouble is I end up with too much to say, so I'm sorry about this long post. I hope you are not already :sleep: ...

cgmom said:
I'm not real fond of God right now and I haven't been for quite some time. I feel like He takes everything away from me and is punishing me for something I did or didn't do. Most of the time, I doubt that He really cares for me much at all.

I remember you wrote in your first post that “I'm having a hard time even figuring out where to go from here.” Well, I believe that of all the things we are talking about here, this issue with God is perhaps the one with the greatest priority that we should handle first. I would really like to see you get your relationship with God back on track as a starting point to everything else because I believe it will help you sort out everything much quicker and more permanently. Then I think maybe your mother relationship is probably the next major issue and then your sister. How does this sound to you?

Actually, when I read your above quote I was really very pleased! Yes, pleased because if you feel God is taking everything away or is punishing you then it means you do actually believe in God. If you didn’t believe in God then you could not feel that way – and you probably wouldn’t have come to this site either. So, instead of us having to start by trying to convince you that God does really exist in the first place (which would be the hardest struggle) our situation is simply to mend your extremely battered relationship with him.

Firstly, let me say that your view of God right now is entirely natural and understandable. It is the most natural reaction when undeserved suffering keeps hitting us time after time.

Secondly, let’s look at the issue of whether God does take everything away from people. I think it is important to distinguish between what God does himself and what God allows others to do. A typical example can be found in the thousands of children that die every single day from plain malnutrition. Is it God that actually takes the food from their mouths or is it that God allows us, who overfeed on our plenty, to fail to share it fairly? Since the world is capable of feeding everyone I think it is clear that it is humankind that is responsible for hunger and not God, but God does indeed let it happen. The same question applies when people are killed in plane or car crashes. It is humankind that knows and accepts that there is a risk of death or injury whenever we travel, but we accept that risk and do it of our own freewill. But when accidents do happen we immediately accuse God of causing it, but it is we that chose to travel knowing the risks involved - but God still lets us travel even though he knows the outcome.

So if we accept that God allows suffering rather than directly causing it then we can assume that God is not, in fact, singling you out and making a punchbag of you, but he is allowing a great deal of hurt to happen to you. So why might this be?

I doubt that even the greatest of theological brains has yet come up with an entirely satisfactory explanation of this, but I will share with you my own thoughts for what they are worth. I believe the most important and valuable commodity in this universe is true and selfless love. Such love comes only from God. But in order for love to be true and selfless it must also be free. It cannot be imposed on people nor can people be forced into it against their own will. Therefore, if love is the most important commodity in the universe, freewill has to be the most vital environment within which it can thrive. Without freewill there is no love, there is only a dictatorship.

However, freewill carries a cost. In order to be free it must be capable of both good and bad. And since humans are capable of both good and bad some will inevitably choose bad instead of good. Feelings such as greed, selfishness, envy, hatred, anger, self-pity, frustration, etc all promote bad thoughts and actions. And the end result of such bad use of freewill by some is suffering for others.

In addition, since good is by definition “good” one can expect it to be just and fair. But since bad is by definition “bad” one cannot expect it to be fairly distributed amongst people. Therefore some get less and some get more, and the very fact that this is unfair is itself an intrinsic characteristic of badness.

In your case, you have received far more than your “fair” share of bad (if any bad can be called “fair”!).

The only way that even I can believe in what I have just said is because I believe that the end result of God's Plan, when true love finally overcomes everything bad, will be a paradise so great and wonderful that it will have been well worth all the struggle and pain we have suffered along the way. As Paul also says:

“I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.” Rom 8:18

In conclusion, I think if you really look into the factors that have caused your suffering you may find that many of them result from other people’s wrong use of their freewill and not from God singling you out for punishment. And if, as a result, you find you can accept that God is not afterall directly responsible for your suffering, then is there any reason left for not turning to him and asking for help now?

I think you are a person with enormous love pent up inside you that you want desperately to share with someone, but each time you have trusted someone with it in the past they have trampled all over it. But there is one friend who does not trample on anyone, one friend who loves you more than you can ever imagine, one friend who will never desert you or disappoint you or expect anything more from you than that you let him love you - and through that love you will come to love him, too. Your friend is Jesus. This does not mean you should not also trust other people, but that you share all the good and the bad that comes your way with Jesus and you will find that the bad things diminish and the good things override everything. It does not mean that bad things won't occur any more, only that they will be manageable and drowned out by the goodness that swells within you.

I know the above sounds like a real preach and I would be very naïve to think that I might influence you with one conversation on the Internet, but I hope that you will think about these things and give God your trust in spite of what has happened.

I would like to talk about the other things you have mentioned, but I am severely outstaying my welcome here by writing so much, so I’ll stop right here..;)
 
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You are welcome to call me Erin. It's not my real name but it's a nickname of sorts. :)

I agree that my relationship with God is the most important thing to deal with. But you have no idea how long I've struggled with Him... and I've actually come a long way, believe it or not. My issues with Him go back to childhood. I actually understand freewill quite well and I know that God is sovereign. Without freewill we would all be dead because He would have to eliminate all evil, period. However, my understanding is purely intellectual. I still have the irrational sadness and anger that wells up when I think about my life.

I think it's extremely unfair that my mother is gone. I did not like her at all but I did love her. And now, I've lost the chance to ever have a good relationship with her. And then my sister... I don't even really know what to say. :(

I sure feel like I'm going through the motions these days. I get up, go to work, come home, play with my daughter, put her to bed, read and then sleep a few hours. Nothing has really changed. People at work tell me how well I'm doing... I think I'm doing too well really. I have the occasional moments of real sadness but this is nothing like I could have ever expected. I think something must be wrong with me.
 
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cgmom said:
I sure feel like I'm going through the motions these days. I get up, go to work, come home, play with my daughter, put her to bed, read and then sleep a few hours. Nothing has really changed. People at work tell me how well I'm doing... I think I'm doing too well really. I have the occasional moments of real sadness but this is nothing like I could have ever expected. I think something must be wrong with me.
Grief is like that. Never exactly what you could have expected. :cry: :sigh: :confused:

For me, the most amazing part of grief is the little flashes of joy that sometimes pop up in the middle of it, which I suspect your daughter sometimes brings you.

Confusion and feeling like something is wrong with you are both normal parts of grief. No one can take away the sorrow and pain, but some people can bring love and comfort into your life. It's hard to do that typing on a screen. I wish I could just give you a hug (((((((Erin))))))) or just sit with you quietly for an hour, instead. :prayer:
 
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Hello Erin! :)

(I really DID try to make this one a bit shorter! :( )

cgmom said:
I agree that my relationship with God is the most important thing to deal with.
Great! – we are walking in the same direction along the same road – its only a matter of time before we arrive somewhere…
But you have no idea how long I've struggled with Him...
You are right, of course, I have no idea how long – but God does, and he will not forget. Maybe one of the most frustrating things about God is that he doesn’t fit into one human brain. That means no one can fully understand God’s Plan, and that is why we need to be able to place our trust in him regardless of how things look to us at the time. Trouble is, that is easy to say but almost impossible to actually do. That is why it is so important that you become reassured that God is not picking on you, but is actually maybe helping you to withstand what you have gone through. (Remember the tale of the footsteps in the sand)?

One example from the bible is Paul’s own suffering. Just after Paul’s confrontation with Jesus when he was blinded as a result, God said to Ananias:

“But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel. I will show him how much he must suffer for my name." Acts 9:15,16

... and sure enough, Paul later describes his sufferings as follows:

“…I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my own countrymen, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false brothers. I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep; I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food; I have been cold and naked. Besides everything else, I face daily the pressure of my concern for all the churches…..” 2 Cor 11:23-28

But I don’t think God meant that he would make Paul suffer deliberately, but that he would suffer at the hands of those that opposed him. The point I am making here is that although Paul was God’s chosen instrument, was doing God’s work, and was fully in faith, God still did not protect him from suffering. We might not understand why this is, but we can trust that God does not desert us even if it often feels like he must have gone fishing for the day.
and I've actually come a long way, believe it or not. My issues with Him go back to childhood.
Yes, I do believe it – it shows in your thoughts and words. It also shows in the fact that you came here and have stayed here. I am fully convinced that God’s most common and favoured means of fulfilling his will on earth is through people. That is why he loves us to pray and responds to prayer even though he already knows what we ask for. It is why we talk to each other and help each other. Remember the other tale of the guy sitting on the roof of his house in the middle of the floods asking God to save him? God said yes he would save him. Three times the lifeboat came to help him but each time he sent it away saying he would wait for God to save him. The waters rose and he drowned. When he came face to face with God he shouted: “Why did you break your promise and not come to save me?” God replied: “I did come, three times I came, but you kept sending me away”.

Trouble is, being mere humans means that we hurt each other as much as we help each other! But we must strive not to withdraw from people or turn people away. Instead we should seek out those that are most likely to be genuine in their relationships with others (unfortunately, this does not mean everyone who claims a Christian outlook!)
I still have the irrational sadness and anger that wells up when I think about my life.
I don’t think these emotions are irrational at all. Understanding them does not mean that they don't hurt anymore. It simply means you are a sensitive and loving person, who life values include fairplay, justice, love, and respect for one another. Values which were not extended to you. If you did not feel anger and sadness then it would mean your heart would be granite instead of a rose blossom. The issue is not that these emotions are wrong, but how one can mend them. I’d like to look at that with you now:
I think it's extremely unfair that my mother is gone. I did not like her at all but I did love her. And now, I've lost the chance to ever have a good relationship with her.
I would like to suggest one correction here: Instead of “but I did love her”, I think it might be more truthful to say: “but I do love her”? Love does not die when people die. But since love needs both a donor and a recipient it means that you have not lost the chance to have a good relationship with her, either. Did you know, for example, that Orthodox Christians pray for the deceased? I do, too. If salvation through Christ is limited to knowing him in this life only, then the vast bulk of the human race that has ever lived is already doomed to the trash bin – including, for example, all the babies killed by Herod when he was trying to kill the baby Jesus (I hardly think God would trash them for simply being in the wrong village at the wrong time). Although it goes against the grain of much Christian thought, I do not believe in such a big trash bin.

So, assuming that you will one day meet your mother again, perhaps we could look at how you can deal with your unforgiveness in the meantime. I believe the best way is simply to drop the whole lot into God’s lap and ask him to sort it out instead. If you can do that and trust that God’s justice is perfect, then you can rest in the assurance that all the wrong done against you will be put right in the best possible way, and that you need not be concerned about that any more. God tells that:


“Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.” Rom 12:19

Now this does not necessarily mean that your mother is going to be “burnt at the stake” in order to supposedly make you happy, because it would not make you happy. The form that it is more likely to take is that your mother’s heart will be opened up to see the trauma that she has caused you and she will consequently break down in total remorse and shame. When this occurs and she holds her arms out to you in the hope of an embrace of forgiveness, will you not find that, like the return of the prodigal son, you will rush to sweep her up into your arms? That is how I believe God resolves these matters – but it is just my humble hope.
And then my sister... I don't even really know what to say.


We haven’t talked much about the background to this yet. We can if you wish, but would we be moving too quickly?
I sure feel like I'm going through the motions these days. I get up, go to work, come home, play with my daughter, put her to bed, read and then sleep a few hours. Nothing has really changed. People at work tell me how well I'm doing... I think I'm doing too well really. I have the occasional moments of real sadness but this is nothing like I could have ever expected.
I think something must be wrong with me.

There is nothing wrong with you. In fact routine is probably a very good therapy at this stage. There are two ways of looking at this. You have suffered a severe trauma, the likes of which few people ever experience. Not only that, but this trauma of a double suicide was preceded by many years of suffering that had already worn you down. One explanation is that your own body will react to this in self-defence and protect you from a head-on collision with it all. For example, it is a known fact that victims of severe accidents often calmly walk around as though nothing has happened, the shock numbs their reactions. The other explanation is that God’s hand is protecting you whilst you gradually deal with this all. Do not criticise yourself by comparing your reactions with what you think you should be feeling!

None of these things are likely to be resolved overnight, but even talking about them helps you deal with them and overcome them. I have a feeling that some way down the line from now you will be an anchor of support and encouragement for other people suffering in similar ways, and your experiences will be used by God to help pull others up from their knees in a big way – and in that you will find great fulfilment in your life. That is my prayer for you :prayer:
 
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Crazy Liz said:
For me, the most amazing part of grief is the little flashes of joy that sometimes pop up in the middle of it, which I suspect your daughter sometimes brings you.
And it's those flashes of joy that bring the most amount of guilt. My daughter is a giant bright spot for me. She's almost 2 and she is changing everyday. We were playing last night and I caught myself laughing. I stopped myself because it just felt wrong. My sister will never have the chance to feel that, the joy of a child. I felt so guilty for laughing, first because I "should" feel sad all the time and then second because I ruined a moment with my daughter. Nothing is simple anymore.
 
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But I don’t think God meant that he would make Paul suffer deliberately, but that he would suffer at the hands of those that opposed him. The point I am making here is that although Paul was God’s chosen instrument, was doing God’s work, and was fully in faith, God still did not protect him from suffering. We might not understand why this is, but we can trust that God does not desert us even if it often feels like he must have gone fishing for the day.
I'd never thought about that before. My only problem with that is that Paul (and I) was an adult. I was a child when I was hurt the worst. This may sound wrong but considering that God brings us into this world small and defensless; it seems that He could protect children a little better.

If you did not feel anger and sadness then it would mean your heart would be granite instead of a rose blossom.

But that's just it; I would rather be made of granite most of the time. I went a long time feeling absolutely nothing and now I have all these feelings and they are so overwhelming.

Instead of “but I did love her”, I think it might be more truthful to say: “but I do love her”? Love does not die when people die. But since love needs both a donor and a recipient it means that you have not lost the chance to have a good relationship with her, either. Did you know, for example, that Orthodox Christians pray for the deceased? I do, too. If salvation through Christ is limited to knowing him in this life only, then the vast bulk of the human race that has ever lived is already doomed to the trash bin – including, for example, all the babies killed by Herod when he was trying to kill the baby Jesus (I hardly think God would trash them for simply being in the wrong village at the wrong time). Although it goes against the grain of much Christian thought, I do not believe in such a big trash bin.
That is certainly an interesting concept. Is there a Biblical basis for that belief?

So, assuming that you will one day meet your mother again, perhaps we could look at how you can deal with your unforgiveness in the meantime. I believe the best way is simply to drop the whole lot into God’s lap and ask him to sort it out instead.
Oh, my two biggest issues... trust and forgiveness... and I have to give them both up at the same time? Truth is, I don't trust God to be just. I've rarely seen Him be just in my life.

I have a feeling that some way down the line from now you will be an anchor of support and encouragement for other people suffering in similar ways, and your experiences will be used by God to help pull others up from their knees in a big way – and in that you will find great fulfilment in your life. That is my prayer for you :prayer:
Thank you for your prayers. :)




 
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My only problem with that is that Paul (and I) was an adult. I was a child when I was hurt the worst. This may sound wrong but considering that God brings us into this world small and defensless; it seems that He could protect children a little better.


I am sure he could and would if he felt it was the right answer. But since I don't believe we have an evil God I have to accept that there are bigger reasons for child suffering than I can absorb. Jesus would not use children as an example of how adults should be if he did not love them for what they are. Therefore we have a paradox: God loves children but God lets them get hurt.

It is something that eats my heart out every time I hear of child abuse, street kids, child kidnapping, family violence, and so on. In many parts of the world children are sold for sex by their own parents. In big cities kids are thrown out of their homes onto the streets by parents with no money (except for their alcohol).

The only conclusion I have come to is that God is not the only invisible force active in this world. And if we believe that God inspired the bible then we should believe Paul when he says:

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Eph 6:12

The world is a strange place of balance and counter-balance, opposites, right and wrong, up and down, good and bad, joy and grief. They live together, side by side, as Jesus said:

"The owner's servants came to him and said, 'Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?' " 'An enemy did this,' he replied. "The servants asked him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?' " 'No,' he answered, 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest...."Matt 13:27:30

God allows good and bad to live alongside each other for good reason. But oh how the bad "guys" must love it when they do their mischief and we blame God for it!!!

But that's just it; I would rather be made of granite most of the time. I went a long time feeling absolutely nothing and now I have all these feelings and they are so overwhelming.

That is understandable. It is a defensive measure that is very effective and helpful whilst the grief, anguish and uncertainty are so overwhelming. But I am sure you would not want that to be a permanent state. You are human and humans are intended to love. But right now that is difficult for you and that is perfectly normal and understandable.

That is certainly an interesting concept. Is there a Biblical basis for that belief?
You mean God saving children and those not aware of Jesus in this lifetime? Well, I have to be careful here because this is not meant to be a theological forum and I don't want to upset any moderators by appearing to be preaching on the quiet. This is a frequent topic that arouses very passionate discussion. Ultimately, we all have to make up our own minds on what the bible means, but let me put a couple of verses that I believe support my views.

Christianity points to Jesus' words that the only route to heaven is through Christ. This I also believe. However, the issue becomes more vague when one ponders on how many routes through Jesus there might be. We know for a fact that throughout history billions of people have died without knowing anything about Jesus at all. But the bible says that God wants all people to be saved. So it would seem irrational for God to wait so long before sending Jesus and then to only reveal him gradually across the globe whilst people are busy dying in ignorance at the same time. If God is a God of love then this would be very strange behaviour.

The bible does say:

"at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth," Phi 2:10

Every knee? So at some time or other every "knee" shall know Jesus? But if people have died in ignorance of Jesus then this can only happen at some later time. Naturally, one can argue that this describes Judgement Day, but if someone repents at that moment of Judgement before Jesus are they still going to be thrown into hell for ever? Afterall, the bible says: "For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." Rom 11:32. The question is where does one think our merciful God's mercy actually runs out if everyone will at some point be bowed before him?

I find it hard to believe that heaven is a place of no tears and no pain when many of one's loved ones are in a place of great suffering for ever more. Moreover, the bible confirms that God's purpose in Jesus was: "through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross." Col 1:20. Personally, I don't think reconciliation is an appropriate word to describe a state where people are separated from their loved ones.

But I will say no more for fear of breaking the rules here. Just let me add that these are entirely my own opinions and should ónly be considered as such.

Oh, my two biggest issues... trust and forgiveness... and I have to give them both up at the same time? Truth is, I don't trust God to be just. I've rarely seen Him be just in my life.

Freewill, trust, forgiveness,, hmmm, indeed these are, once again, huge issues that spark strong debates on other forums. There is much to say about these but I think I shall, for now, say that I doubt forgiveness will be easy without simultaneous trust in God. I am always terrified whenever I pray the Lord's Prayer and ask God to forgive my sins as I forgive others!!!

It is a huge task, but I think it is not so difficult as we might at first think.


Goodnight, Erin, Thanks for the discussion today. It is great talking with you :)


 
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I haven't been here in awhile...

I'm doing better in some respects; some things in my life are going well. But in the happy times, I find myself missing my sister and mother the most. I feel dumb for feeling like that but I do.
Nice to see you back and so happy to hear things are going along ok with you. Keep pressing on and just continue to put one foot in front of the other :hug: and don't allow the enemy of your soul to rob you of the good feelings during happy times. Guard your heart!

I can totally see how you could miss them. Heck, they were your mom and sister. Don't ever feel dumb for your feelings they are real and valid!
 
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I'm getting married and it seems silly to miss them when I know that they wouldn't be involved even if they were alive. They both hated me... maybe it's the lack of resolution and reconcilliation that's eating at me the most.
Congratualtions!!!:clap: on your upcoming marriage!

Oh goodness you hit the nail on the head:doh: about how the lack of resolution can eat at us. I guess that is between you and God now to find a way for this to happen. The good news is that it can happen but the difficult thing for us is finding that way. Scripture is clear that we need to forgive those who wrong us. I know that is so much easier said than done. And from what I have learned reconcillation (with those who wrong us) does not have to happen and often times is not possible. But forgivness will reconcile us to God and that is what's most importnat.
 
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I am told that the number one problem facing people today is grief and loneliness. People encounter major losses in their lives; and sadly, many never get over them. When tragedy occurs and the hurt seems unbearable, Satan sees it as an opportunity to attempt to bring a family or an individual into permanent bondage.
The death of a loved one, divorce, or the severing of a close relationship can bring grief; and most people go through a grieving process. The key to victory is to understand the difference between a normal, balanced "grieving process" and a spirit of grief that will try to attach itself to the hurting person. One helps the grieving person get better with the passing of time; the other causes him to get worse and sink deeper and deeper into the pit of despair.
I believe that one of the reasons why people, especially Christians, get into bondage during these trying times is due to a lack of understanding about the "grieving process." The term simply describes a succession of events that may occur in a person's life when something or someone that means a lot to them is suddenly no longer there.
Obviously, all people do not experience the same things in the same degrees; but we do have emotions that can be wounded and bruised and must be healed. Healing is a process—unless God gives a miracle, which He does at times—but more frequently, He walks His children through things step by step.
Shock and denial are two of the first things a person may encounter when tragedy occurs. Actually, God uses these to protect us from devastation. To illustrate, consider an automobile's shock absorbers. They are designed to cushion the vehicle from unexpected bumps in the road. Without them, it would fall apart from the violence of the blows it encounters during its travels.
People are often the same way. We are traveling on the road of life, and most of us are not expecting bumps and potholes. Therefore, we are not ready for them when they suddenly show up. Our Holy Ghost-installed "shock absorbers" cushion the blow until we can readjust and adapt our thinking to accommodate the sudden change in the ride. Shock and denial are good if they are temporary; however, they become a major problem if people permanently refuse to face reality and to learn how to deal with them.
The next thing people may (and often do) feel is anger—at themselves. They begin to think of things they wish they would or would not have done that might have made the situation better or prevented it. Satan wants us to live in regrets. Who is alive that would not say, "I wish I hadn't done that!" or "I wish I had done this"? Satan seeks to place blame; and it is intended to throw a person into a lifetime of guilt, condemnation, and self-hatred.
The apostle Paul stated in Philippians 3:13, ...one thing I do [it is my one aspiration]: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead. I like the phrase in the Amplified translation, "straining." This tells me that whenever I may have to "press on", there will be opposition from the enemy.
Endings always bring new beginnings. Satan strives to keep us out of the new place that God has prepared. He wants to trap us in the past and causes us to live in permanent misery. Self-anger and self-blame will accomplish the devil's purpose.
People may also experience anger at the person who left them—even if they died. My aunt told me that after my uncle died, she would sometimes beat his pillow at night and yell, "Why did you leave me?" Obviously, her intellect knew that he did not purposely leave her, but her emotions were speaking. We must realize that emotions have a voice; and when they are wounded, they may react like a wounded animal. Wounded animals can be quite dangerous, and so can wounded emotions be, if they are followed.
The grieving person needs to be taught about this grieving process and some of the things he may experience. He must also be taught to place little or no value on his feelings—and not to follow them. For a person who has experienced a major loss, it is not the time to be making serious decisions nor the time to deal with other issues that may be anxiety producing or emotionally upsetting.
Anger at God is quite common. People frequently ask, "If God is good, all powerful, and full of love for us, why didn't He stop the thing that caused the pain?" Satan seeks to build a wall between God and the hurting person. He seizes the opportunity to say, "God is not good, and He cannot be trusted." However, we know that it is a lie. Satan is a liar and the father of lies. The truth is not in him according to the Word of God.
Verses 12 and 13 of James 1 states, Blessed (happy, to be envied) is the man who is patient under trial and stands up under temptation, for when he has stood the test and been approved, he will receive [the victor's] crown of life which God has promised to those who love Him. Let no one say when he is tempted, I am tempted from God; for God is incapable of being tempted by [what is] evil and He Himself tempts no one.
And verse 17 says, Every good gift and every perfect (free, large, full) gift is from above; it comes down from the Father of all [that gives] light, in [the shining of] Whom there can be no variation [rising or setting] or shadow cast by His turning [as in an eclipse].
In other words, God is good; and He cannot be anything else. Furthermore, He is not one way one time and another way another time. He does not change. He is good, and that is the way He is. But what about the original question? Since God is good and all-powerful, why didn't He stop this thing before it brought all the hurt and pain?
To be very honest, these are questions for which we do not have completely sufficient answers.
I Corinthians 13:12 says, ...Now I know in part (imperfectly)... Trust always requires unanswered questions!
We want answers to everything, but we must come to the place where we are satisfied to know the One who knows and place our trust in Him. Being mad at God is foolish because He is the only One who can bring the needed help and comfort to the grieving or bereaved person.
Finally, people also get angry at the devil. This is normal and even good if the anger is properly expressed. The only way to repay the devil for hurt and devastation in our personal lives is to aggressively and vehemently do the works of Jesus. I receive much comfort and joy from Romans 12:21, ...overcome (master) evil with good.
People experiencing tragedy often go through stages of emotions expressed as sobbing and hysteria. These may come and go when least expected. Even people who are normally quite unemotional may experience a great deal of emotion during times of loss.
In general, people are afraid of emotions; and an uncontrolled display of these emotions is even more fearful. I encourage you to "fear not" because it will pass. Good understanding and a lot of help from the Holy Spirit will bring you through this kind of situation.
Confusion, disorientation, and fear are common. Depression and waves of overwhelming feelings are experienced by many, as well as, physical symptoms caused by the emotional stress, with which the wounded person is dealing. I believe the key word in these situations is balance.
The Bible talks of how King David was feeling depressed, but he resisted it. He did not sink into it, nor get into the pit of despair. He described how he felt, but he made a decision not to live by his feelings (read Psalm 42:5-11 and Psalm 143). People have often confided to me their discouragement from being made to feel (by others) that they had insufficient faith when they go through experiences like this.
I believe it often takes more faith to go through something victoriously than to be delivered from it. There are some that experience complete deliverance from grief after a great loss, but that does not happen to all people. There are others, and I might even say most of us, who go through very emotionally difficult times when tragic loss occurs. Those who are walking in faith come out of it, and they come out of it better than when they went in. In closing, let me say, "Do not lose your hope!" If you are hurting right now due to a loss in your life, I want to say to you that a new beginning is in front of you. You may go through some things that you will never understand, but you can trust God to work them out for your good. What Satan intends for your harm, God can turn around for your good!
 
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cgmom said:
Has anyone here lost a loved one to suicide?

My sister shot herself and died a little over a week later. A day after her passing, my mother intentionally overdosed with pills.

I have so many questions and I'm having a hard time even figuring out where to go from here.
Dear cgmom,

I know this post is so late, but I wanted to let you know that you're not alone in having had a close family member suicide. About 15 years ago, my brother Steve took his life. We had a history of abuse & neglect in my family, and had experienced the loss of our mom back 25 years ago.

How are you doing, are things better? Please let us know.

Leetahlee
 
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dear cgmom
my mom commited suicide a month ago. how are you doing? i will pray for both of us. do drop me a line to tell me what has been happening. no matther what.. Jesus is greater than our feelings and like what Joyce says God can turn bad things to be good.
Jesus loves us. We have to look to him the author and perfector of our faith. We have hope in him. God can do a new thing in our generation. allgenerational curses are broken in Jesius name. we are set free by the power of the cross and who God sets free is indeed free. The power of Jesus is the greatest when we are week and grieveing.
Let's receive his healing daily.. i walk with u..let's walk together with Jesus holding our hands.. We are born of God the evil one does not touch us. brush off all fiery darts. take up authority as God's child.let's do it together..
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leetahlee said:
Dear cgmom,

I know this post is so late, but I wanted to let you know that you're not alone in having had a close family member suicide. About 15 years ago, my brother Steve took his life. We had a history of abuse & neglect in my family, and had experienced the loss of our mom back 25 years ago.

How are you doing, are things better? Please let us know.

Leetahlee
hi leetahlee,kate, cgmom anbd everyone,
how are you feeling? i'm doing ok but sometimes negative thoughts come in.. my dad is so insensitive. he said that he read in a magazine that children of plp who commit suicide will commit suicide.
so terrible what he said. My friend comforted me that yes that might be the statistics but we are different cause we are God's child.
am I right here?

now, i find it a great challenge to deal with insensitive people who ask me bout my mom. how did all of you deal with them?
i want to move on but it seems that plp are making it harder for me..

keem
 
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