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Successful cloning of rhesus macaque

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"In a world first, Chinese researchers have successfully cloned macaques using the same technique that yielded the famous clone Dolly the sheep. The milestone, published in Cell on Wednesday, marks the first time that primates have ever been cloned in such a manner.

The years-long effort, led by Chinese Academy of Sciences postdoctoral fellow Zhen Liu, culminated in the recent birth of two female macaques, Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua. The macaques’ names are drawn from the word zhonghua, an adjective for the Chinese people..."


A rhesus "clone" was born in the late 90s. But it was produced by utilizing cells from a rhesus embryo at the 4 cell stage. The Chinese actually created a zygote by tranferring a nucleus from a long-tailed macaque into an enucleated egg cell, and stimulating the zygote to begin developing. The nucleus came from from macaque embryo. Which would be expected to have some pluripotency, rather like a stem cell. But still, this is a real clone, starting with an unfertilized ovum, and a somatic cell. Assuming this isn't fake news, it's quite an achievement to do it successfully in a primate.

So can a human clone be far behind?

Monkey Clones Created in the Lab. Now What?

Title correction: The newly cloned monkeys were long-tailed macaques, not rhesus.
 

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It's isn't a fabrication.

Can a human clone be far behind? Sure can (ethically, at least).

"By optimizing the method, we obtained 79 well-developed embryos and implanted them in 21 female monkey surrogates," Poo said. That resulted in six pregnancies and the births of the two monkeys"
 
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So can a human clone be far behind?

Why bother, watch the monkey long enough and it will turn into a human on it's own. :) Or so they say.

A bit time consuming but much easier by far..
 
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Why bother, watch the monkey long enough and it will turn into a human on it's own. :) Or so they say.

A bit time consuming but much easier by far..

Is that a joke or are you just demonstrating extreme ignorance of the topic again? It’s difficult to tell.
 
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Why bother, watch the monkey long enough and it will turn into a human on it's own. :) Or so they say.

"they" being creationists. Because someone who actually understands biology, would never utter such nonsense.
 
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It's isn't a fabrication.

Can a human clone be far behind? Sure can (ethically, at least).

"By optimizing the method, we obtained 79 well-developed embryos and implanted them in 21 female monkey surrogates," Poo said. That resulted in six pregnancies and the births of the two monkeys"
Yeah, those are not numbers that you are going to get human trials on.

If it gets down to the failure rate found in IVF I think that could change.
 
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"they" being creationists. Because someone who actually understands biology, would never utter such nonsense.

lol

How silly of me to think they're teaching we descended from a monkey...what COULD I have been thinking. ;)
 
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Hit a nerve?
Lies offend people.

Deliberatly offending or upsetting people doesn't make you witty and clever, it just makes you petty, cruel and banal.
 
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Deliberatly offending or upsetting people doesn't make you witty and clever, it just makes you petty, cruel and banal.

Nor does anything that you have said thus far.

Then the "truth" is, no one has claimed we descended from monkey's?

It's a complete lie, and those who chimed in have no idea where I got that idea?
 
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Nor does anything that you have said thus far.

Then the "truth" is, no one has claimed we descended from monkey's?

There have been people who claim this. But not people who understand evolutionary biology.

Usually, the people that claim this little canard misunderstand evolution, or are misinformed as to what evolution biology actually claims. Or are being deliberately disingenuous.
 
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Nor does anything that you have said thus far.

Then the "truth" is, no one has claimed we descended from monkey's?

It's a complete lie, and those who chimed in have no idea where I got that idea?
I wasn't attempting to be witty, merely expressing my contempt for poor behavior.

You said monkey, singular. A deliberate distortion.

watch the monkey long enough is not even remotely the same as descended from monkey's.
 
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To all who opposed the comment, tell it to the people who say we came from a monkey, monkey's...whatever . If you want to pretend no one says that, then be my quest...there is no rule here against people living in an unreal world, as a matter of fact, we see it often, it's not even shocking anymore. But please, do go pretend it to someone who will work with you on it, because I know better.
 
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To all who opposed the comment, tell it to the people who say we came from a monkey, monkey's...whatever .
But they're all creationists. It's better if you tell them; they never listen to us.
 
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lol

How silly of me to think they're teaching we descended from a monkey...what COULD I have been thinking. ;)
What makes you think the theory of evolution claims it?
 
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I'll need a quote for that one or are you just making things up again?
What? That the theory doesn't claim that we evolved from a monkey? Ot that you said that it did? That you said it is what the last dozen posts on this thread are about. Scroll back and look.
 
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