nephilimiyr said:
No I most certainly am not saying we can't always. I'm saying that we don't always use it. There's many reasons for why we don't always use it but it has nothing to do with whether we can or can't.
I say I see this alittle different from what I see you saying because I believe there's a difference in longing to serve the flesh as a practise and committing an act of serveing the flesh.
Neph,
I just wanted to briefly touch on a few things.
You are quite confusing at times!
You said "No I most certainly am not saying we can't always. I'm saying that we don't always use it." So, you're
not saying that we can't always, or you
are saying that we can't always?
nephilimiyr said:
I'm not opposed at all to the freedom God has given us. I don't however believe God has created us as zoombies. Yes when we accept him into our lives he lives in us but we have to learn to listen to him and obey him. He doesn't come into our lives by pushing us aside, makeing all the decissions and pushing all the bottons. He allows us to make our own decissions even when they are the wrong ones that go against his will and righteousness. In a way I see you saying that as soon as we accept him in we will miraculously be without sin forever as if it's like drinking some kind of magical potion.
I'm confused at whether this is directed toward me or not? If it was, I never stated that we would be magically transformed or that we were 'zombies'.
I've always stated that "if you live according to the flesh, you will die, but if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live." Romans 8:13
It's our choice...plain and simple
nephilimiyr said:
All of the scriptures you and others here have presented to me doesn't really support what your saying. I see those scriptures as mearly showing us what the difference is between living for the flesh and living according to the Spirit. Those scriptures tell us that we are to chose in which way we are to live. There are two possible avenues for us to take in life. We can only chose one of them. If we chose to live according to the Spirit rather than the flesh we will be rewarded with everlasting life.
Confused me again.
I see those scriptures saying exactly what you see them saying...
nephilimiyr said:
However none of those scriptures say we wont make the wrong decissions from time to time. In fact they say that when we do sin we have an advocate in Jesus Christ if we confess those sins and repent.
I don't believe I said anything contrary to this.
nephilimiyr said:
In short those scriptures say that by living in the Spirit we will not sin and they also say that this is the way we are suppose to live but where is it addressed that we will always be able to live by the Spirit at all times, 24/7.
Lots of places...
"Consequently, brothers, we are
not debtors to the flesh, to live according to the flesh." Romans 8:12
"For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has
freed you from the law of sin and death." Romans 8:2
"We know that our old self was
crucified with him, so that our sinful body might be done away with, that we might no longer be in slavery to sin." Romans 6:6
And my favorite...
"For sin is not to have any power over you, since you are not under the law but under grace." Romans 6:14
Sin does not have any power over us?...so why would we 'have' to continue to sin?...hmmmm...
~peace~
