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Well, to be fair, there's only a few to look at.
Which is surprisingly frequent, given how few of them there are.
What kind of banana though? The kind god made that fits perfectly in your hand?
Technically, creationists cry wolf with every claim they make. These are known as PRATT's.
And yet people cry, wail, and whine for evidence.
-_- nearly all the health benefits associated with circumcision are rendered moot through safe sex practices and washing the penis with decent regularity. The only medical reason I can think of that warrants circumcision is if the foreskin is severely damaged, which does happen to some men throughout their life.
Circumcision isn't considered to be so religiously affiliated with Christians as it is with Jews and Muslims. That is, the tradition has never been so strong with Christians in particular. This is why it is kinda uncommon for Christian men that don't live in the United States to be circumcised, and even there it wasn't so common until Will Kellogg popularized it in the early 20th century.
-_- so you would follow older studies that concluded mercury was safe? Finding the cause of homosexuality in and of itself defies political correctness, because if you know what causes it, that brings with it the possibility of one day preventing it altogether. An idea that is pretty polarizing.
From the perspective of the bible, there is no difference in thinking about grabbing a woman's breast and actually doing it, as far as sin is concerned. The language used is rather ambiguous, so it is hard to say if merely thinking a person is attractive counts as a lustful thought, but there is no question that thinking about having sexual relations with someone whom you are not married to is equal to actually doing it, as far as committing sin goes.
You can't state I am incorrect and give no reason as to why. If you aren't going to stop sinning, who are you to call out other people for sinning?
To be fair, this is a common misconception that I fell into, you are right, the bible doesn't say that all sins are equal. Weirdly, there is a disconnect between the OT and the NT on which sins are worse, though. The OT treats items such as idolatry and worship of other gods, as well as crimes related to pride, as the worst sins, while the NT treats adultery and other sins related to lust as the worst sins. Yet, Jesus associated with prostitutes, which makes it seem like even the worst of sins according to the NT didn't actually deter Jesus from interacting with the people that committed them.
I don't agree with a polygamous lifestyle, but do believe there are health benefits from circumcision even considering a monogamous relationship and regular washing. Personal comments on hygiene from nurses and carers support my view, and I think even the CDC's current approach is to recommend all men and parents be advised of the benefits and risks relating to circumcision (i.e. circumcision is worth consideration). I also understand the final decision will be based on a variety of factors and beliefs, many of which have two opposing but convincing sides.
Other studies and comments find the opposite. My personal view is that males can be quite selfish, so if something is seen as a performance benefit for both marriage partners (and many females in general prefer it), and if there are no real problems with circumcision, what's the harm? This view does rely on the studies that indicate foreskin makes little difference, and is no more sensitive than the skin on the underside of the forearm.
Its certainly not required from a religious perspective, but I still believe there were and are benefits to health. I thought the US was just bigger on health care spending, although a number of nations have followed suit with the trend.
Its not about sin anymore, but I believe these laws were and are healthy. Even eating pork with all our modern technology can result in health issues (although I still eat on occasion).
No. Mercury is demonstrably toxic.
This fits my own experience with the openly homosexual men I've met (where I've known or met parents also). Sex is always a choice, unless it is rape.
Sex is always a choice, unless it is rape.
There's a difference between a thought, and starting to act on it. I'm not God, but I think lust starts to kick in when we start to consider how to fulfil our desire (even if ultimately unfulfilled) without rejecting the idea based on it being a sin.
Jesus can save from even the worst sins. He died for all, not just those who believe themselves to be less sinful (who are probably actually moreso).
The wages of sin is death?
1. the bible is filled with polygamy.
I literally took college courses with nurses, I am a Biomedical Sciences major, for crying out loud. The only benefit of removing foreskin that has been established is a reduced chance of contracting certain STDs (or STIs, if you prefer). I suppose if you want to make a huge stretch, you could say it also reduces the chances of the complications of foreskin tearing, but that's like saying it reduces the chances of getting cataracts by removing the eyes. I mean, both statements are technically true, but the activity is far more extreme than is warranted.
Yes, because like I have mentioned before, one of the only confirmed health benefits of male circumcision is that it reduces the chances of contracting sexually transmitted diseases. The other conditions listed that male circumcision reduces are related to infections of the foreskin itself. That is, since it isn't there to get infected, complications related to it getting infected are of course reduced. And i couldn't have cataracts if I didn't have eyes. Yes, even the reduction in penile cancers is tied to infections in general and the area itself not existing to become cancerous.
There are real problems with circumcision. Like any medical procedure, it can have complications, and given that it is by far not a necessary one and doesn't have particularly significant benefits (it mildly reduces chances of contracting certain infections, it doesn't eliminate them by any means). Since the foreskin does contribute to lubrication, its absence can make sex more painful for both parties.
Which you choose not to provide, but I find plenty which conclude that circumcision does have a negative impact on enjoying sex on the part of the men Male circumcision decreases penile sensitivity as measured in a large cohort. - PubMed - NCBI
-_- on what planet do you live on? Male circumcision is not on the rise, it's on the decline.
Well duh, since pork is rather fatty and like all meat, is dangerous undercooked. It's not as if Kosher beef is safe raw.
Then don't argue that older studies are magically more reliable just because they agree with your views. I wouldn't trust studies that come from a time when Freudian psychology was big, seeing as the guy was high off of his mind on cocaine and immensely deprived of sex when he came up with his crap. I also wouldn't trust studies that come before brain scans were commonly utilized in psychological studies.
I wish the other Creationists had your conviction, AV.
You left one off.
This is probably a debate for another thread. My statement was that because circumcision is good, and its in the bible, this is evidence for biblical creation. If we don't agree on the initial statement, obviously, you won't accept the conclusion. Same as if you won't accept that excessive sugar intake is unhealthy, you wouldn't believe that someone saying not to eat it knew this.
Again, I'd say moreso pork, but unless you already accept this, probably a debate for another thread.
That wasn't my argument. Each study should be evaluated on its own merits. But the politically correct spin in recent years on certain things such as homosexuality does effect the conclusions of the studies. For example, the discrimination against doctors who had high success rates in curing homosexuals.
XD hahahahahahahahahahaha. It really isn't, have you not read how hit or miss the bible is on medical stuff? The treatment for leprosy (sometimes translated as mildew) is to grab two birds, kill one of the birds using the other bird, and to sprinkle the blood of the dead bird around the house.
I have no idea what you are getting at. I never denied that male circumcision could have some health benefits, only that the benefits are not sufficient to justify it. Also, I stated that I am well aware that excessive sugar intake is unhealthy, but likewise this is not a justification for banning it. After all, sugar is harmless in moderation. Piercings have no health benefits and minor health risks, and I wouldn't suggest that they must be banned either. It's not our job to force people to make choices with minor health benefits at the expense of their personal freedoms and happiness.
-_- the OT bans pork because the people of the time frequently died from consuming it. It is a product of the time. Botulism is named after a word for sausage, for crying out loud, that's how dangerous the meat used to be. It wasn't some divine insight, these people witnessed that for themselves.
As a general rule, the older the study, the less merit it has unless modern studies consistently agree with it. For example, why should I trust a 1920 paper about selective breeding over a 2010 one, when the former predates knowing the structure of DNA?
There aren't any doctors that have high cure rates for homosexuals. The "remission" percentages for the "cured" individuals are usually in the mid 90 percents. They aren't made straight, they are made to pretend to be straight.
The errors in your assertions have been addressed multiple times on multiple threads. However, you appear totally unable to actually examine the refutations and contrary evidence, let alone understand it. You don't hold a dialogue with other members, you stand on your tiny soap box and spew drivel. Listen for a moment. Listen. The sound you hear is the sound of the world largely ignoring you.
