Stereotyping Christians...

[cgm5]

He was judging by assuming that I listen to a certain type of music.

I don't think he agrees with you that the kind of music you're objecting to is bad, so he couldn't possibly be trying to judge you. He just made an assumption that seemed reasonable and turned out to be incorrect.

I admit secular music is not directly addressed in the Bible, but that doesn't mean it is right.

But I am simply sharing the Bible's view on secular music,

The Bible doesn't say anything directly about secular music, so you can't say you're just telling us what the Bible says. You can say you're giving us your interpretation of what it means, but we are not bound to agree with your interpretation.

 

[FuegoPentecostes]

I don't think he agrees with you that the kind of music you're objecting to is bad, so he couldn't possibly be trying to judge you. He just made an assumption that seemed reasonable and turned out to be incorrect.



The Bible doesn't say anything directly about secular music, so you can't say you're just telling us what the Bible says. You can say you're giving us your interpretation of what it means, but we are not bound to agree with your interpretation.

Either secular music is bad or it isn't, there's really no inbetween or maybe or conviction or interpretation here. Let's think logically in the realm of God, if our God is a jealous God, would He want us spending our time listening to secular music?

 

[cgm5]

Let's think logically in the realm of God, if our God is a jealous God, would He want us spending our time listening to secular music?

Sure. Why? Because it's beautiful, and would therefore remind us of God, who is the source of all beauty. Because some of it has morally good lyrics which are worth listening to. Because it can be relaxing, and God designed us to need to relax sometimes.

 

[xxProdigalxx]

Sure. Why? Because it's beautiful, and would therefore remind us of God, who is the source of all beauty. Because some of it has morally good lyrics which are worth listening to. Because it can be relaxing, and God designed us to need to relax sometimes.

Why are you talking like a girl?

 

[cgm5]

Why are you talking like a girl?

What's your problem?

 

[xxProdigalxx]

What's your problem?

I don't have a problem. I just asked you a question and pointed out you effeminate nature. Was it wrong for me to point out a sin? I did it to your gain.

 

[cgm5]

I don't have a problem. I just asked you a question and pointed out you effeminate nature. Was it wrong for me to point out a sin? I did it to your gain.

No, you called me a girl, knowing that I was a man. That's something called an insult. I am not 'effeminate', not that you would know me well enough to tell, one way or the other.

 

[xxProdigalxx]

No, you called me a girl, knowing that I was a man. That's something called an insult. I am not 'effeminate', not that you would know me well enough to tell, one way or the other.

No, I asked you why your talking like a girl. I didn't say you were a girl.

 

[cgm5]

No, I asked you why your talking like a girl. I didn't say you were a girl.

But I wasn't talking like that. I'd appreciate it if you went and bothered someone else.

 

[Paul01]

...I'm just saying that God demands holiness from people, a.k.a separation from the world...

...My mother and I actually turned on the tv the other day to a music video...

So either TV isn't worldly, or you haven't completely separated yourself from the world either.

 

[FreedByte]

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[xxProdigalxx]

If anything what he said was poetic, but either way you are obviously more concerned with being "manly" than following Christ. A Christian wouldn't throw out a schoolyard insult like this because it is unloving, and we are commanded to love our neighbor as ourselves. Not only that, but this post is in clear violation of the forum rules:

Do not insult, belittle, mock, goad, personally attack, threaten, harass, or use derogatory nicknames in reference to other members or groups of members. Address the context of the post, not the poster.

You need to do some serious soul-searching and Scripture reading so that you stop this sinful behavior.

Funny thing because all I did was point out something I saw. Don't take it as an insult. I ask why somebody is doing something and that is now turned into insulting somebody. You should learn the meaning of love first before you start condemning others.

 

[FreedByte]

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[xxProdigalxx]

Take it how you like. I did what aught to be done.

 

[FreedByte]

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[GodsGirlToday61]

i'm puzzled by this forum....Christians listening to some of the same music as me??? Or is this a parody website????

Don't toss us all in the same mix--it's a well-populated Forum from what I see so far.

As for me, I don't listen to secular music at all right now, and when I did, I only listened to a few songs related to my roots, such as Steve Earle's Guitar Town, Copperhead Road and Hillbilly Highway.

I gotta say, in addition to my not listening to secular music, that a lot of what passes for gospel music--the modern stuff--is so secular in spirit and appearance and sound that I can't stomach it. At least with artists who call what they 'perform' pop music or whatever, they're clear and to my mind, honest, but when I put in (Youtube) gospel artists and come up with a woman singing a gospel song as though she were the one we should praise, or the album cover (yep, my age showing) has her blouse open, her bra showing and the look in her eye says 'lust after me' rather than 'hunger and thirst for righteousness...', I back out of the YouTube video or whatever it's called, and FAST.

I like compilations so I get songs by various singers, and not all modern: a mix is good, so for instance I might start with God of Wonders by Third Day and follow that with Alan Jackson's In The Garden and then Marshall Hall's He Was with Casting Crowns' If We Are the Body.

Oh, and I love to make a CD with Josh Turner's Long Black Train put in to surprise me, you know, where at least for the first few times I'm taken aback in a good way when I hear that deep voice start out the song. (I listen to him and Randy Travis do Long Black Train via YouTube--for some reason it hasn't been released for iTunes, which is unfortunate because their mutual respect and affection is a joy to behold.

To be 'in but not of the world' to me means that secular music, and any music masquerading as gospel which is sung or 'performed' in a profane way, is off limits by 'conscience' and this conscience I'm speaking of comes from the holy Spirit convicting my heart, literally making me feel some kind of dirty: that's a good kind of dirty to feel if I act on it by getting away from the ugliness and back on track with true praise music.

Ray Boltz's Stones is a praiseful song that satisfies the part of me that came up not only on gospel but on songs that were worldly but had a certain sound, you know, that grabs you and the sound alone lifts your spirit. This can be dangerous if you aren't 'wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove' regarding music as much as anything else...

Thanks for bringing up the topic. You never know: A new Christian or someone struggling with letting go of a habit may read your post and put away, I don't know, say Black Sabbath's War Pigs?

<3 <3 <3 (Always from me, for The Trinity)

 

[xxProdigalxx]

I'm not "taking it how I like"; I'm taking it how Christians take it and how Jesus would have taken it. There is no reason to call someone effeminate for saying that God is beautiful and God creates beauty.

Are these Bible verses too "girly" for you?

Psalm 90:17


17 And let the beauty of the Lord our God be upon us,
And establish the work of our hands for us;
Yes, establish the work of our hands.



Ecclesiastes 3:11


11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.

As I said before. Take it how you like. I'm done here. I've got work to do.

 

[FreedByte]

As I said before. Take it how you like. I'm done here. I've got work to do.

If you don't want to start a conversation about your mean behavior, then don't insult people in the first place

 

[GodsGirlToday61]

Um, what happened to not judging? You don't know WHAT I listen to at all.

Thanks for the fact, but I knew that already. That's why I don't like Christian bands, and don't listen to them. I prefer actual church music, that is sung in church. Psalms and hymns, spiritual songs, I don't listen to or like any "Christian bands" or "Christian artists", because you made an excellent point. They're just copying the world.

My mother and I actually turned on the tv the other day to a music video, we were laughing at how silly it looked, and lo and behold, when we actually listened to the words it was a "christian" song. I couldn't even tell because there was so much worldliness in the video and the beat and everything.

So maybe you should ask what kind of music I actually hear before saying I like Christian bands, which I find insulting.

I respect your experience of Christian music--I can't find much myself that is praiseful, but you might feel the Christ-based sincerity of Casting Crowns. In particular their songs, Praise You in This Storm; If We Are the Body; and Who Am I? Incredible--I mean they stand above most Christian music as what I call 'real-deal' praise. I'm grateful to God for inspiring them.

 

[XB3LI3V3RX]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F00f7NgzS80&desktop_uri=/watch?v=F00f7NgzS80
Great example of the Christian music I listen to

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=byPzxbCZ7Y8&desktop_uri=/watch?v=byPzxbCZ7Y8
I consider this a great worship song

You have to listen to them all the way through though

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