statuettes.... Error?!?

[Uphill Battle]

which is why OBOB would have been better. You could have had a meaningful conversation and spared Theresa myself and others from being called rude, faithless, arrogant and whatever else.

true.... although you have the option of not posting in a thread if you feel it would be a harrowing experience.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Really, we shouldn't be forced to avoid threads because they might be "harrowing" experiences at a Christian site UB. . . Chrsitian charity should see to it that this shouldn't be a concern . . . .

Unfortunately, it is . . . .


.

 

[PassthePeace1]

addressed, yes, but not satisfactorily, I think. Whether or not the error is innocous or not, Mary teaching scripture to Jesus is error. It would not happen.

When by our actions, we model what the scriptures teach, to our children; are we not infact teaching them scripture?

 

[Myriah]

When by our actions, we model what the scriptures teach, to our children; are we not infact teaching them scripture?

Yes!

And although Uphill Battle it seems a little strange to see Mary with a Bible teaching Jesus... let me say this, I don't think that happened. I'm sure he was taught by word of mouth by his family. I'm not sure if everyone had a copy of scriptures in biblical times, though they knew them often by heart.

But, the scriptures in the NT say that a woman should not teach over a man, not her children.

The scriptures also say "let a man teach his wife at home". Women were to be taught, and while men were away "working", of course mothers were there to teach the Word to their children while their husbands were away from the family unit. I'm sure it was part of a women's daily routine -- still is.

And logically, if a wife got stuck on what exactly to do to discipline the children, I'm sure that old line of "wait 'til your father gets home" came into play even back then.

However, what I wrote does not mean that father's did not teach their children also.

Yet there is a line a the NT where the Pharisees grumble amongst themselves and say "Where did this man learn all these things about our law?" That line in the Bible always baffled me.

(I'll try to find the NT scripture, if I can! )

 

[Benedicta00]

true.... although you have the option of not posting in a thread if you feel it would be a harrowing experience.

Being called idol worshippers, faithless, rude, arrogant has been harrowing for us. I still don't understand why you want to have a conversation like this if all you want is answers. I don't understand what benefit you think it going to serve

 

[Uphill Battle]

Really, we shouldn't be forced to avoid threads because they might be "harrowing" experiences at a Christian site UB. . . Chrsitian charity should see to it that this shouldn't be a concern . . . .

Unfortunately, it is . . . .


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agreed. Again, I'm not responsible for others actions, only my own.

 

[Myriah]

Being called idol worshippers, faithless, rude, arrogant has been harrowing for us. I still don't understand why you want to have a conversation like this if all you want is answers. I don't understand what benefit you think it going to serve

No, he's right. No one is twisting your arm to be here nor on these threads.

There are some Protestant bashing threads, and I just stay out of them. I may give one or two opinions in some, but I'm not gonna stay for 500 or more posts. I feel it's their problem and their ignorance or whatever it may be.

Catholics are hardly the only ones being hurled stupid words.

Use the report button or don't answer. That's what I am learning to do.

 

[Benedicta00]

No, he's right. No one is twisting your arm to be here nor on these threads.

There are some Protestant bashing threads, and I just stay out of them. I may give one or two opinions in some, but I'm not gonna stay for 500 or more posts. I feel it's their problem and their ignorance or whatever it may be.

Catholics are hardly the only ones being hurled stupid words.

Use the report button or don't answer. That's what I am learning to do.

I beg to differ. my arm not being twisted is nither here nor there. I am of the opinion that Uphill open threads all the time specific about Catholicism and he knows how they will turn out.

He seeks to debate just us, He really doesn't want answers.

I think it would be better if he would just come clean and admit that.

If he wanted answers and not everyone to attack our beliefs and practices, he would ask these question in OBOB.

 

[Uphill Battle]

I beg to differ. my arm not being twisted is nither here nor there. I am of the opinion that Uphill open threads all the time specific about Catholicism and he knows how they will turn out.

He seeks to debate just us, He really doesn't want answers.

I think it would be better if he would just come clean and admit that.

If he wanted answers and not everyone to attack our beliefs and practices, he would ask these question in OBOB.

I gave a SPECIFIC reason why I do not post in OBOB. OBOB does not brook ANY discussion about what they believe. They give you THEIR answer, pat you on the head and send you on your way. I've tried it.

And please do not accuse me of disingenuity... You have no basis to do so.

 

[Myriah]

I beg to differ. my arm not being twisted is nither here nor there. I am of the opinion that Uphill open threads all the time specific about Catholicism and he knows how they will turn out.

He seeks to debate just us, He really doesn't want answers.

I think it would be better if he would just come clean and admit that.

If he wanted answers and not everyone to attack our beliefs and practices, he would ask these question in OBOB.

Listen Bene, you called me a sinner for not venerating Mary.

So please don't be a hypocrite. You are allowed to leave to go to OBOB. No one is forcing you here.

Also, there are so many protestant bashing threads, and even though I may stand up for catholics, I haven't seen the same coming from one catholic in regards to protestants.

 

[Oblio]

The problem with simply not visiting threads where your faith is attacked is that many of them willingly bear false witness. This affects every member of the faith being attacked as more people are attracted to the anti-_____ sentiment and they further spread that meme throughout the internet and IRL. The plethora of anti-Apostolic sites that spew hatred and lies is proof of this. I'm sure the corrollary to this also occurs, and is just as un-Christian if it is perpetrated against evangelicals, Calvinists (c.f. Dave Hunt), Anglicans et. al.

 

[Myriah]

The problem with simply not visiting threads where your faith is attacked is that many of them willingly bear false witness. This affects every member of the faith being attacked as more people are attracted to the anti-_____ sentiment and they further spread that meme throughout the internet and IRL. The plethora of anti-Apostolic sites that spew hatred and lies is proof of this. I'm sure the corrollary to this also occurs, and is just as un-Christian if it is perpetrated against evangelicals, Calvinists (c.f. Dave Hunt), Anglicans et. al.

That may be true for you. However, I've seen Orthodoxy and Catholic bear false witness about the Protestant faith and I've called them on it too, and even some mods.

 

[Oblio]

However, I've seen Orthodoxy and Catholic bear false witness about the Protestant faith and I've called them on it too, and even some mods.

You didn't read my post thoroughly did you ?

 

[Oblio]

Personally, I rarely if ever comment on my previous faith. It is a well known fact of human nature that we tend to malign that which we have left behind. Doing this reinforces our decision and validates it. It is also common amongst those who have conquered an addiction (witness ex-smokers). One can almost without exception pick out an ex-Catholic (or ex-Protestant) by the rhetoric they spew when slamming their former faith.

I think if there was a rule that no one could speak of their former faith, GT (and CF) would be a better place.

 

[Uphill Battle]

Personally, I rarely if ever comment on my previous faith. It is a well known fact of human nature that we tend to malign that which we have left behind. Doing this reinforces our decision and validates it. It is also common amongst those who have conquered an addiction (witness ex-smokers). One can almost without exception pick out an ex-Catholic (or ex-Protestant) by the rhetoric they spew when slamming their former faith.

I think if there was a rule that no one could speak of their former faith, GT (and CF) would be a better place.

Hey Oblio, a pleasure as always!

There is validity in what you say, in that the rhetoric flies thicker from the EX-whatevers... however, are we not the sum of our experiences?

 

[Asinner]

... however, are we not the sum of our experiences?

Concerning my life, that is a scary thought!

We are to put off the old and daily, deny self, pick up cross, and follow Him. Continuously being transformed into the Image of our Creator.

Love,
Christina

 

[Uphill Battle]

Concerning my life, that is a scary thought!

We are to put off the old and daily, deny self, pick up cross, and follow Him. Continuously being transformed into the Image of our Creator.

Love,
Christina

of what value would be redemption, if the past did not exist?

Does our past experience not modify our future responses?

 

[Myriah]

You didn't read my post thoroughly did you ?

No, I didn't. I am sorry. I was eating breakfast, getting kissed by my husband for Valentine's Day, and trying to type, among several other things. Not an easy combo at all.

 

[Rowan]

of what value would be redemption, if the past did not exist?

Does our past experience not modify our future responses?

If we're going to use those past experiences to push our own brothers into the dirt, then what's the point of holding on to them?

 

[Asinner]

of what value would be redemption, if the past did not exist?

Does our past experience not modify our future responses?

Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but [this] one thing [I do], forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.(Phl 3:13,14)

Love,
Christina