Interesting answer HaloHopeStill I would like to see more testimonies about homosexual Christian couples that tell about how God works in their lives.
I know for sure that the bible tells us that everything is allowed, but that not everything is good for us or something that builds us up.
I were going to write that I thought God approved on homosexual relationships/marriages from what you told me, but then I felt something stopped me, and I got reminded about:
Rom 14,2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
1.Cor. 8,10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
Rom 14,14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
And I know that these verses really talk about food, but I think they can be used in all things in life. For example some people consider the Harry Potter books to be something unclean, but I don't. And in the same way I think many Christians would consider it wrong to have relationships with someone of the same sex, and according to Paul, then it really is wrong of them to do that, if they consider it to be "unclean". So I guess what decides if a homosexual couple can live as Christians is if they consider it to be wrong or not, and not what the society consider to be wrong, but what they personally feel in their hearts. And maybe that is why this debate never see any end, cause everyone in are looking in their bibles for rules about this, and by that they forget that we are not under the law, but under the mercy. But if all the Christians would have love for each other, and not tried to make others to do something that is considered unclean for them, and if not those that do consider it to be unclean would not judge, then the debate would end, and there could be peace in this.
So it would be good if more homosexual couples could tell about their relationship with God, and that everyone could remember to do something that is good for their brothers and sisters, cause we really are brothers and sisters no matter if we disagree. Those that only care about bringing forth their view have only love for themselves.
I feel that I forgot to mention something, but I can't figure out what it was.
Hello Bellicus. Your point has been made before. If my own brother is fighting an alchohol addiction problem, and I drink, would I stand in front of him sipping on a drink? If I love my brother, obviously I would not treat my brother this way.
Yet on this forum people have tried to force others who are suffering in weakness to accept their desires. This is not an act of love, but rather uncaring.
That was beautiful! Almost brought a tear to me eye to see the Word of God proclaimed so well....To Texas Lynn,
No its the other way round, LGBT relationships dont apply to Jesus Christs teaching, they are contrary, thats the problem with them.
Thats rubbish, what you mean is you dont believe, so its nothing to do with right wing Christians but to do with Christian views being called right wing on the pretext of trying to smuggle non-Christian views in as left wing.
Its rubbish because Jesus teaching comes to us from the NT writers, Paul, who wrote Romans and the letters to the Corinthians received his revelations from the risen Lord not men (Galatians 1) and he makes it quite clear in Romans 1 that men lusting after men and committing indecent acts with them is not only against nature but error. That in your terms is homosexual not heterosexual, something you and others fail to address and comment on because you cant. All you do is repeat the same old false mantra of Jesus never said. As to the gospels, Mathew 19 alone records, as explained to you by several here, Jesus affirming Gods creation of woman for man for the reason that a man shall be united with his wife and the two shall become one flesh, offering celibacy as an alternative, 1 Corinthians 7 backs that up. That says a lot about homosexuality and LGBT, it means homosexuality and LGBT are human concepts outside what Jesus has countenanced. So yes Jesus does teach about it in a way, what He teaches shows it is a false and dysfunctional concept.
You came forward and you cried at a church service. As a result of that, do feel you would go to heaven if you died today? Why or why not?
PS if you'd like to Accept Jesus Christ as your savior, try the link on my tag line.
The implication that you havent is based on the evidence of what you have said about your faith, which wasnt necessary. We are not interested in judging people, but rather what is right. Jesus said that those who love Him obey all His teaching (Matthew 28, John 14-16) and commands, as soon as people dispute them they open up the possibility that thye havent accepted Christ as Lord of their lives. Furthermore the NT teaching says we work out our salvation and that its possible ot lose it.
My wife was raised Methodist as well, but salvation wasn't clearly explained to her. She thought it was based on works because of her church's teachings. The link explains salvation quite well. It's worth a check-up.
I don't really want to get into a doctrinal debate with you, I believe in salvation by faith, .
