Special Counsel withdraws a second subpoena in Trump case

[rambot]

It's so strange to me how the tiniest threads of hope are clung to so tightly

 

[ozso]

More recently,the coyote was fined millions of dollars for sexually assaulting a woman and has been found guilty of defrauding banks by fraudulently inflating the value of his properties.

More anvils falling now. In the words of his former AG; "He's toast." The above two are just the first of them to hit him.

Wile E. Coyote always told us he was a genius too. "My IQ test was perfect!" - Donald J. Trump

The only way for Trump to be the Coyote is if he's a prosecuter or a judge trying put someone behind bars. They've had several years in which to do that, and now they're down to mere months.

 

[rambot]

The only way for Trump to be the Coyote is if he's a prosecuter or a judge trying put someone behind bars. They've had several years in which to do that, and now they're down to mere months.

You don't bother to argue that he defrauded banks OR sexually assaulted "a" woman.

But then you ALSO don't say "maaaaybe he doesn't have the character I'm looking for in a president".

 

[The Barbarian]

The only way for Trump to be the Coyote is if he's a prosecuter or a judge trying put someone behind bars.

He failed at that, too. When his AG explained to him that he couldn't just order Hillary Clinton arrested, he threw a massive tantrum.

 

[The Barbarian]

Anything short of keeping him out of the White House amounts to zilch.

Seems to me that anything that ends up convicting him of a felony might be a problem. Receiving foreign dignitaries in a prison cell seems a bit awkward, doesn't it?

 

[ozso]

Seems to me that anything that ends up convicting him of a felony might be a problem. Receiving foreign dignitaries in a prison cell seems a bit awkward, doesn't it?

A prison cell wouldn't be the White House.

People might think I'm rooting for Trump, but I'd actually rather see DeSantis become the 47 POTUS in 2024.

 

[The Barbarian]

A prison cell wouldn't be the White House.

But it's likely to be Trump's residence for the next few years.

Of course, things going as they are, he probably won't be president.

but I'd actually rather see DeSantis become the 47 POTUS in 2024.

Gov. Ron has spent a lot of cash to let the American people get to know him better:

Which in retrospect, may not have been a very good idea.

 

[ozso]

But it's likely to be Trump's residence for the next few years.

Of course, things going as they are, he probably won't be president.



Gov. Ron has spent a lot of cash to let the American people get to know him better:

Which in retrospect, may not have been a very good idea.

I've been hearing Trump is going to jail for so many years now. And if that actually however unlikely happens, that will just put DeSantis in the lead for the nomination. And it will be a 45 year old running against an 81 year old.

 

[ozso]

You don't bother to argue that he defrauded banks OR sexually assaulted "a" woman.

But then you ALSO don't say "maaaaybe he doesn't have the character I'm looking for in a president".

This isn't about me.

 

[rambot]

This isn't about me.

Fair point. You are only defending and making excuses for the man who defrauded banks and charities and sexually assaulted "a" woman. You are not saying you support him.

I find DeSantis' political positions and the way he wields his power to be too ....distasteful but at least he's not, at his root, a terrible person. He's just a person I disagree with.

 

[ozso]

Fair point. You are only defending and making excuses for the man who defrauded banks and charities and sexually assaulted "a" woman. You are not saying you support him.

Show me where I defended and made excuses for Trump, or apologize to me for making false accusations.

What I'm actually doing is criticizing the judicial system for getting virtually nowhere in the last several years in dealing with Trump, and now being down from years to only months.

I find DeSantis' political positions and the way he wields his power to be too ....distasteful but at least he's not, at his root, a terrible person. He's just a person I disagree with.

 

[The Barbarian]

I've been hearing Trump is going to jail for so many years now.

He's always hired legions of lawyer to delay things interminably. But now that hasn't worked,and he's lost dozens of election appeals, a sexual assault case, and one fraud case in which he's been found guilty. It's a new experience for him and he isn't taking it well.

Donald Trump Goes on Unhinged Rant​

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[ozso]

He's always hired legions of lawyer to delay things interminably. But now that hasn't worked,and he's lost dozens of election appeals, a sexual assault case, and one fraud case in which he's been found guilty. It's a new experience for him and he isn't taking it well.

And he's still nowhere close to being in jail.

Donald Trump Goes on Unhinged Rant​

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Good, between his rants and Biden's gobbledegook, DeSantis has a decent chance.

 

[The Barbarian]

I find DeSantis' political positions and the way he wields his power to be too ....distasteful but at least he's not, at his root, a terrible person. He's just a person I disagree with.

And he was Top Gun for the Navy!


Er.... here we go...

Former Navy Pilot HUMILIATES Ron DeSantis for Cringey 'Top Gun' Ad​

 

[rambot]

Show me where I defended and made excuses for Trump, or apologize to me for making false accusations.

What I'm actually doing is criticizing the judicial system for getting virtually nowhere in the last several years in dealing with Trump, and now being down from years to only months.

Apologies.

 

[A2SG]

I didn't say kept from running. I said kept from being the 47th POTUS. Anything short of that is going to amount to zilch.

Again, his fraud conviction doesn't prevent that from happening, if he's elected, nor will any of the other charges should he be convicted of them as well. If he gets jail time, it might make serving as president problematic, but that's a problem for the Secret Service, I suppose. I guess we'll see.

And, again, I don't see how this theory works, since the assumed goal won't be achieved by any of these various trials.

But, I do disagree that holding someone, even Trump, accountable for criminal act amounts to "zilch." Justice and the rule of law is important in this country.

-- A2SG, at least, it used to be......

 

[A2SG]

For example, he might just be a criminal; a court recently found that he committed sexual assault.

Plus he's guilty of fraud in the NY case. Not to mention previous fraud convictions.

But still, none of these make him ineligible to run for president. Just ask Lyndon Larouche or Eugene V. Debs.

-- A2SG, just look at the company he keeps.....

 

[ozso]

Again, his fraud conviction doesn't prevent that from happening, if he's elected, nor will any of the other charges should he be convicted of them as well. If he gets jail time, it might make serving as president problematic, but that's a problem for the Secret Service, I suppose. I guess we'll see.

And, again, I don't see how this theory works, since the assumed goal won't be achieved by any of these various trials.

But, I do disagree that holding someone, even Trump, accountable for criminal act amounts to "zilch." Justice and the rule of law is important in this country.

-- A2SG, at least, it used to be......

It amounts to zilch for virtually everyone else. Pretty much no one else is affected by Trump receiving civil penalties.

Whereas him becoming the next POTUS or not affects the entire world.

And virtually the only way to completely stop him from being the most powerful man in the world again is to put him in jail.

 

[A2SG]

It amounts to zilch for virtually everyone else. Pretty much no one else is affected by Trump receiving civil penalties.

Why would they be? Trump's the one on trial (along with his family, who are also named in the indictment), "everyone else" isn't involved.

Whereas him becoming the next POTUS or not affects the entire world.

So? Are presidential candidates now exempt from criminal prosecution? Maybe I should declare my candidacy...apparently, it gives me carte blanche to commit any crimes I like!

And virtually the only way to completely stop him from being the most powerful man in the world again is to put him in jail.

And yet, as I keep saying over and over again, his convictions do not bar him from running, or even being elected.

So that won't stop him.

-- A2SG, you may want to find some other conspiracy theory, that one doesn't work......

 

[ozso]

And yet, as I keep saying over and over again, his convictions do not bar him from running, or even being elected.

Yes that's whole the point. The judicial system has had years to to make criminal convictions that would have put him in jail and kept him out of the White House, but now there's probably not enough time for that.