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The question is not speaking in tongues or reading the Bible and prayer. I recommend doing all three. In my experience, adding prayer in tongues (the real thing, not the babbling counterfeit we have periodically mentioned) is good for an acceleration in ministry growth of around a factor of 5. In fact, the Catholic church ejected most of the authentic Pentecostals between 1978-1985 simply because they were jealous that the tongue speakers had taken over almost all the ministry opportunities in the American church, leaving no opportunities for the rest.

I did not quote James 1:17 to prove tongues, but to prove that God has many good gifts for us besides those which are of what we call heavenly or spiritual nature.

It could be an argument that the gifts came to an end. Or, it could be an argument that we do not have very many elders in the church, at least of the quality James knew in his day. Since in my life, I have seen very few fail to be healed, when people I consider of elder quality as defined by Scripture are doing the ministering, I believe it is the latter.

You'll need to define fruit. There is a wonderful thread going on in this site called "Pentecostal pioneers" you might want to look up. The fruit I have mentioned, is complete societal change in the last 100 years, with an end to the culture of servants, massive medical marvels, instant communication, and I am told, the least amount of hunger in the world ever in history.

Since speaking in tongues is part of intelligent prayer, again my response is that we should do all three, and take advantage of all God's gifts.
 
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Can you give me an example of tougues, and intelligent tougues?

Maybe you could pray and ask God for wisdom and guidance in this (there are only three places in the NT that speak about tougues). Write down what you say in tougue's then post it here (after it is translated into English). Then.....
Pray and read the word in context maybe have read of a good commentary on the passage you read and then Write down your thoughts or application. Then....
Compare the two. If the gift of tougues is around today and you have it then it should either lead to a conversion (or at least a strong sign maybe for the Jews) or be inline with the Word of God.

If not let's stick to the word only and pray as instructed by God as we know this brings about fruit.
 
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Can you give me an example of tougues, and intelligent tougues?

Maybe you could pray and ask God for wisdom and guidance in this (there are only three places in the NT that speak about tougues). Write down what you say in tougue's then post it here (after it is translated into English). Then.....
Pray and read the word in context maybe have read of a good commentary on the passage you read and then Write down your thoughts or application. Then....
Compare the two. If the gift of tougues is around today and you have it then it should either lead to a conversion (or at least a strong sign maybe for the Jews) or be inline with the Word of God.

If not let's stick to the word only and pray as instructed by God as we know this brings about fruit.
I did not say intelligent tongues. I said intelligent prayer includes tongues. This is the same as intelligent prayer includes verbal prayer, meditation, contemplation, journaling, and other techniques God makes available. Intelligence in prayer is using all methods available to communicate with God and to have Him communicate with you.

I had the gift of interpretation for the first two weeks. I do not normally get them. I have never had an utterance in tongues for the assembly, so there is no need.

I Cor. 14:4 is what I have been saying. The evidence is that people who speak in tongues accomplish far more in ministry than those who do not. This is because, as this verse says, they have built up themselves. this is as I have already demonstrated, that the last century has seen previously unimagined progress in quality of life, and much of it can be traced to "built up" Christians with more faith trusting God for these results.

I spent a while last night looking for specific statistics relating tongues to conversions, but I could not find any. I did discover that the believers in tongues are one of the fastest growing segments of the Christian population (growing about 6% per decade since 1970). I also know that many new conversions are coming from Africa where tongues based religions are very huge. Of course, the tongues of Pentecost were the start of 3000 conversions within a few hours. So while I cannot prove mathematically what I would like to prove (that use of tongues is producing very large numbers of conversions), I think it is quite likely.

About signs for the Jews: You are perhaps aware that there is a new Jewish branch of "Christianity" called Messianic Judaism, in which hundreds of thousands of Jews have come to accept Jesus as Messiah. Historically, this change is usually held to have developed as a result of the charismatic movement.

I do not have the personal knowledge of the new movement among Moslems accepting Jesus to know if it related to tongue speaking or not. I do know it is related to dreams.

Many revivals a century ago in India and China can be traced directly to tongue speaking in India in the 1870's

So I think I have documented evidence of the Scripture "build up yourself" and shown you that many conversions are being produced, both among pagans and among Jews, by the charismatic movement. Again, it is not produced by tongues, but by he people who use tongues to build themselves up.

Can I check your list of 3 places? Do you count I Cor. 12-14 as one place or as several? What do you consider a "place" among Acts 2 (is this what Jesus refers to as being clothed with power from on high? It is what happened to fulfill His prediction, and the tongues - not the preaching which is more substantial - were the "clothing"), Acts 10:46, Acts 19:6, Mark 16:17, Rom. 8:26-27
 
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So you would tell Christian musicians not to do technical exercises, since it might interfere with them playing in the spirit? Or you would tell the sound technicians not to study the room acoustics? Intellect must work in the service of the spirit.

We are not talking about Christian music or the work of sound technicians. What they did is in the area of common sense and appropriate for that activity. But Christian music or room acoustics are not supernatural gifts of the Spirit. I think your argument is so weak that it makes you look ridiculous.
 
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Greetings, Oscarr.
I am wondering if you were to actually view the video from start to finish (25 min.) and then read the testimony, which gives context to the video (post #20 above), I feel perhaps you may have a slightly different view, particularly because you say in your post to me that, "...is speaking nonsense and has no significance to God or anyone else". This statement is absolutely incorrect. Just for your information, I did by no means pray in the spirit on secular radio. What you hear on secular radio is an audio tape recording. Again, I refer you to the video itself and the subsequent testimony.

You refer to 1 Cor 14. Chapter 14 is an orderly account of how the gift of prophecy and tongues are to be used - as God is a God of order and not a God of disorder. If you read the chapter in its entirety, we see that most of the instruction surrounding speaking in tongues is instruction for a group (church) setting. Of course, we use our prayer language when in personal, private devotion i.e. in our prayer closets. But it is most definitely used in the church environment, as long as there is an interpretation given.

Please take note of 1 Cor 14:22 (NIV), which reads: "Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers."

I hope you do consider viewing the video. I think it may be worth your while. To view the video 'Speaking in Tongues', click here.
I'm assuming when you identify yourself as a senior veteran, you do mean from the military... if so, Thank you.
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Senior Veteran is a rank awarded to members of CF who have been members for a long while and who have made the required number of posts.

I note your remarks and agree with them. I will watch the video.
 
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Interesting that historically some of the most Godly, influential people never spoke in tongues. Luther, Calvin, the Puritans, Spurgeon, Wesley, Whitfield, Edwards, Lloyd Jones ....... if you look at some of the most famous leaders of the mega churches where they claim to speak in tongues, their messages and lives are not in line with the word of God, many have made allot of money doing so and still do!. I would be interested to see historically if anyone can source any Godly men who have spoken in tougues before 1900 and if the message was of God?

You cannot be sure that these ones did not speak in tongues even if they didn't make mention of it in their literature. But there were many movements throughout the centuries, that were outlawed by the Catholic Church that had the experience of tongues. Although most church historians say they were heretical, the only evidence of that were comments made by the Catholics themselves, but when other researchers read between the lines of the court transcriptions of the leaders and members of these "outlaw" movements, they realised that these movements were more consistent with Scripture than the Catholic Church itself. So, tongues, along with other gifts of the Spirit did occur as a thread throughout the centuries.

There is a good book called "2000 Years of Charismatic Christianity" By Eddie L. Hyatt. If you can get hold of it, you will find it interesting reading. I did.
 
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Can you give me an example of tougues, and intelligent tougues?

Maybe you could pray and ask God for wisdom and guidance in this (there are only three places in the NT that speak about tougues). Write down what you say in tougue's then post it here (after it is translated into English). Then.....
Pray and read the word in context maybe have read of a good commentary on the passage you read and then Write down your thoughts or application. Then....
Compare the two. If the gift of tougues is around today and you have it then it should either lead to a conversion (or at least a strong sign maybe for the Jews) or be inline with the Word of God.

If not let's stick to the word only and pray as instructed by God as we know this brings about fruit.

The purpose of the gift of tongues is to enhance a believer's prayer life. It is a private thing between the believer and God. A believer who speaks in tongues does not have to answer to anyone because it is none of anyone else's business where and how a person prays to God. You are never going to get any proof about tongues any other way than to go to God in private and discuss the issue with Him. If you don't get the revelation about it, then there is no skin off anyone's nose and all you can do is to try and get along without it. Nothing gained and nothing lost.
 
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I am not familiar with speaking in tongues other than seeing people say, "I SHOULDABOUGHTAHONDA" or some other unintelligible words in church.

My daughter bought a Honda and it is a flasher car than mine!!:sorry::sorry:
 
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I'll say something that is probably controversial but I believe I could teach any believer to speak in tongues in about 30 minutes. Theres certain things you must know to do it. 1. You do the speaking, you aren't controlled by some outside force moving your lips and vocal cords. 2. After you speak you don't think about what you are trying to say you just speak and let the holy spirit form the syllables that come out of your mouth. I never tried to get an unbeliever to do it but it would be interesting if someone tried it. That said speaking in tongues is not a difficult process to learn and I wish someone taught me but If I am honest I learned how to speak in tongues from God himself and he not only taught me how to do it but then with that knowledge he allowed me to teach my sister how to speak in tongues as well. Theres a myth that you can't control when you speak in tongues its just the spirit taking over but that is not true.

I can speak in tongues sing in tongues rap in tongues and act(act dramatically) in tongues. If I knew sign language i'm sure I could give the syllables coming out in sign language. Whats funny is when God taught me to speak in tongues he taught me exactly how a man on an audio tape I was listening to taught to do it. As I said for those here reading this that want to speak in tongues but don't believe they can or that it isn't possible anymore. Remember you do the speaking, and you must speak. If you are new to it start out saying a syllable of ahhhhhhhh le mo so te ha pe ke.......Use starters to get you in the flow of speaking in tongues. Sometimes if you get stuck force another syllable out and you can speak in tongues. What I am saying is something that is not taught but if you listen to what I say you will be speaking in tongues this very day. I can answer any questions about speaking in tongues if someone has one.
 
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I cannot help to wonder why,by a large margin that tongues are the most criticized spiritual gift?
So many debates about tongues, and a few about the other spiritual gifts.

No one ever questions the gifts of the ministry mentioned in Ephesians, of course we have Pastors ,Preachers etc.
It seems one point against them is they were removed by God.
When ,and where in God's Word does it say the Church Age shifted gears to another dispensation?
Another point against the Gifts is when the Bible was completed,they were no longer needed.
This is the when that which is perfect has come clause that gets interpreted as no more gifts.
Another is they died with the last Apostles?

Most of you know the logical fallacy of these statements I will not bore you by answering them.
My main question is why does religon seek to subvert God's Word?
The Reformation was not far from Catholic doctrine in the beginning,God's Word was only interpreted by the Priest and the Reformers interpreted God's Word as they wanted to,hence the debate over Calvinist and Arminianism.
How far apart are those two theological perspectives?

For my two cents I believe that the Baptism of the Holy Ghost is not necessary for salvation, but a nessissity for understanding the Spirit of God.
I believe it is God's will we have all that God has given to us freely.
We are saved by grace through faith, and faith is needed to recieve the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Acts: 8. 12. But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. 14. Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15. Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16. (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17. Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
This is a prime example of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit being a work set apart from salvation.
This shows a continuous flow of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit beyond the Apostles, besides Pentacost, and the Gentiles receiving the Holy Ghost.

Christ himself said: Acts: 1. 5. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

In other words water Baptism is not the fulness that God intended toward us.
Those who denounce tongues denounce Pentacost and the power of God given to us for his glory.
Are there fakes yes,embarrassing things in out of control Churches yes.
But I go to Paul for the final Word,

1 Corinthians: 14. 38. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40. Let all things be done decently and in order.

Yes I pray in tongues, and yes it edifieth my Spirit.
 
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I'll say something that is probably controversial but I believe I could teach any believer to speak in tongues in about 30 minutes. Theres certain things you must know to do it. 1. You do the speaking, you aren't controlled by some outside force moving your lips and vocal cords. 2. After you speak you don't think about what you are trying to say you just speak and let the holy spirit form the syllables that come out of your mouth. I never tried to get an unbeliever to do it but it would be interesting if someone tried it. That said speaking in tongues is not a difficult process to learn and I wish someone taught me but If I am honest I learned how to speak in tongues from God himself and he not only taught me how to do it but then with that knowledge he allowed me to teach my sister how to speak in tongues as well. Theres a myth that you can't control when you speak in tongues its just the spirit taking over but that is not true.

I can speak in tongues sing in tongues rap in tongues and act(act dramatically) in tongues. If I knew sign language i'm sure I could give the syllables coming out in sign language. Whats funny is when God taught me to speak in tongues he taught me exactly how a man on an audio tape I was listening to taught to do it. As I said for those here reading this that want to speak in tongues but don't believe they can or that it isn't possible anymore. Remember you do the speaking, and you must speak. If you are new to it start out saying a syllable of ahhhhhhhh le mo so te ha pe ke.......Use starters to get you in the flow of speaking in tongues. Sometimes if you get stuck force another syllable out and you can speak in tongues. What I am saying is something that is not taught but if you listen to what I say you will be speaking in tongues this very day. I can answer any questions about speaking in tongues if someone has one.

No offence But we do not control the Holy Spirit at will,He is God we must reverence God all Mighty with due diligence.
Only He can manifest any gift because all the Gifts are given by Him.
This was why Simon was rebuked and why men have made a show of God by supposing they could do as they please void of His utterance.
 
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But Christian music or room acoustics are not supernatural gifts of the Spirit. I think your argument is so weak that it makes you look ridiculous.
The way some people do them, they are. I Cor. 1:27
 
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I'll say something that is probably controversial but I believe I could teach any believer to speak in tongues in about 30 minutes. Theres certain things you must know to do it. 1. You do the speaking, you aren't controlled by some outside force moving your lips and vocal cords. 2. After you speak you don't think about what you are trying to say you just speak and let the holy spirit form the syllables that come out of your mouth. I never tried to get an unbeliever to do it but it would be interesting if someone tried it. That said speaking in tongues is not a difficult process to learn and I wish someone taught me but If I am honest I learned how to speak in tongues from God himself and he not only taught me how to do it but then with that knowledge he allowed me to teach my sister how to speak in tongues as well. Theres a myth that you can't control when you speak in tongues its just the spirit taking over but that is not true.

I can speak in tongues sing in tongues rap in tongues and act(act dramatically) in tongues. If I knew sign language i'm sure I could give the syllables coming out in sign language. Whats funny is when God taught me to speak in tongues he taught me exactly how a man on an audio tape I was listening to taught to do it. As I said for those here reading this that want to speak in tongues but don't believe they can or that it isn't possible anymore. Remember you do the speaking, and you must speak. If you are new to it start out saying a syllable of ahhhhhhhh le mo so te ha pe ke.......Use starters to get you in the flow of speaking in tongues. Sometimes if you get stuck force another syllable out and you can speak in tongues. What I am saying is something that is not taught but if you listen to what I say you will be speaking in tongues this very day. I can answer any questions about speaking in tongues if someone has one.

I do exactly the same. Faith is not just waiting around for some outside force to move our tongues and lips. Trouble with that is that it might be some other Spirit than the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit works according to our faith in God's Word. Faith is something we have to activate by doing something we couldn't do before we decided to step out in faith. I believe that we are filled with the Spirit when we are converted. That's the way it seemed to happen in the Book of Acts. But sometimes to step out and use a gift, it takes faith on our part. I believe that when a person speaks in tongues, they are doing the speaking, and it is their faith that causes them to believe that God understands and appreciates what they are saying. I would say that it takes a strong faith in God's faithfulness to step out and speak in a made-up language.

I get a person to speak in my tongue, and then I get them to put it all together and speak rapidly without stopping. Every time, they have come out with their own distinctive language quite unlike my own. I find that remarkable. Once when we did that, one guy spoke in such a beautiful melodic language that we all fell on the floor laughing. The joy of the Lord hit us.

However, I show a seeking person some principles first. I don't think that it is helpful for a group of people trying to get a person speaking in tongues at an public altar call in front of a church congregation. I take the person to a quiet and private place and counsel them using the following points:

1. The person has to accept that it is God's will for them to speak in tongues. It is a waste of time going any further until that person is clear in their own heart that this is what he or she wants and knows that God wants them to have it.

2. I get them to ask God out loud for the gift. This is according to Scripture where we are by prayer and supplication make our requests to God.

3. Then they must tell God that they accept the gift. He who asks, receives, according to Scripture, so this shows that God hands us the gift and we need to take it from His hands.

At that point I tell them they can speak in tongues whenever they wish because they now have the gift. Firstly I tell them to try and speak, or speak any strange words that come to mind. If they cannot, I get them to speak words from my prayer language, like priming old style water pump to get the water flowing out of the ground. Once they have spoken a few of my words and got used to speaking a different language, then I get them to put all the words together and speak rapidly. I command them to speak in the Name of Jesus. This is when they often speak their own distinctive language.

I believe that because I am using this method in accordance with God's word, and they are stepping out in faith, there is no way they can receive a counterfeit.

A person receives a counterfeit often in a public setting surrounded by people who try and force them to speak and they speak some type gibberish just to get that group off their back. Or someone says just speak "bababababa" when they do they tell them that is the gift of tongues.

When I hear a person speaking in tongues when I have counselled them, I am listening for an articulate and expressive language. When I hear that, I can encourage the person that they are actually speaking in tongues. I sometimes ask God for the interpretation and then given it to them. That amazes them that they have just begun speaking in tongues and it is interpreted.

I don't care whether people in the occult or false religions speak in tongues. There are counterfeits, but when a person steps out in faith on the basis of God's Word and all they want to do is to praise and glorify Jesus, then 99 percent of the time it is genuine.

I have counselled people through PM on CF, and through email, and achieved the same result, because it is the Holy Spirit who gives them the gift and not me. I believe that anyone seeking the gift of tongues follows the procedure that I have outlined, they will speak in genuine tongues

If there are those reading this thread who don't believe in the gift of tongues for today, don't waste your time responding because you can believe what you like and if you don't believe in the gift, you will never practice it and will never know whether it would be of any use to you or not; but don't hinder those who are genuinely seeking it. Remember the guy in the Book of Acts who tried to stop the Deputy from hearing Paul. The Holy Spirit blinded him. Take a lesson from that.
 
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If there are those reading this thread who don't believe in the gift of tongues for today, don't waste your time responding because you can believe what you like and if you don't believe in the gift, you will never practice it and will never know whether it would be of any use to you or not; but don't hinder those who are genuinely seeking it. Remember the guy in the Book of Acts who tried to stop the Deputy from hearing Paul. The Holy Spirit blinded him. Take a lesson from that.

This is true. I was always fascinated by the gift of tongues when I heard a friend speak in tongues. It took me maybe 7 years later for me to begin speaking in tongues then another 9 to realize I could do it at will. There is too much false information that you have to wait for the holy spirit, when in fact its the holy spirit waiting on you to do it. God wants us to speak in tongues. If you are the type of person who has their mind made up that tongues is gibberish and nonsense then believe the science that those who regularly speak in tongues react to normal day stressors better than those who don't speak in tongues. Speaking in tongues changes you physically as well as spiritually.

Heres a study of what I'm talking about.Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction

Those who speak in tongues show reduced stress in their lives. Let alone the other mysterious blessings given out from the holy prayer language we are speaking. If paul wishes that all spoke in tongues I'd say not only is it possible now but recommended from a good source.
 
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Senior Veteran is a rank awarded to members of CF who have been members for a long while and who have made the required number of posts.

I note your remarks and agree with them. I will watch the video.
Thank you for explaining what a Senior Veteran is... we are newbies!
 
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I'll say something that is probably controversial but I believe I could teach any believer to speak in tongues in about 30 minutes. Theres certain things you must know to do it. 1. You do the speaking, you aren't controlled by some outside force moving your lips and vocal cords. 2. After you speak you don't think about what you are trying to say you just speak and let the holy spirit form the syllables that come out of your mouth.


You are quite right. Anyone can be taught the technique of modern glossolalia. It is a natural phenomenon that anybody can discover whereby the tongue goes into ‘autopilot’ and puts together strings of random syllables that sounds like a strange language. There has been plenty of research into this phenomenon by linguists. For example, Dr William Samarin, professor of Linguistics at Toronto University has carried out extensive studies. His conclusions are:

"There is no mystery about glossolalia. Tape recorded samples are easy to obtain and to analyze. They always turn out to be the same things: strings of syllables made up of sounds taken from among all those that the speaker knows, put together more or less haphazardly but which nevertheless emerge as word-like or sentence-like units”

“The speaker controls the rhythm, volume, speed and inflection of his speech so that the sounds emerge as pseudo- language -- in the form of words and sentences. Glossolalia is language-like because the speaker unconsciously wants it to be language-like. Yet in spite of superficial similarities, glossolalia fundamentally is not language.”

"All specimens of glossolalia that have ever been studied have produced no features that would even suggest that they reflect some kind of communicative system.”

“When the full apparatus of linguistic science comes to bear on glossolalia this turns out to be only a facade of language, although at times a very good one indeed.”

“And it has already been established that no special power needs to take over a person's vocal organs; all of us are equipped with everything we need to produce glossolalia”

"Glossolalia is not a supernatural phenomenon....It is similar to many other kinds of speech humans produce in more or less normal circumstances, in more or less normal psychological states. In fact, anybody can produce glossolalia if he is uninhibited and if he discovers what the "trick" is"


I never tried to get an unbeliever to do it but it would be interesting if someone tried it.

They already have. Unbelievers were taught the technique of glossolalia by academic researchers. Their tongues were then demonstrated to Pentecostals who described them as ‘beautiful examples’.

You can find details of the studies at this link. Scroll down to section 5A.
 
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I have counselled people through PM on CF, and through email, and achieved the same result, because it is the Holy Spirit who gives them the gift and not me.
My first wife and I noted that those who are saved/baptized in the spirit/received tongues in private seemed to become most of the ones who had strong ministries after. Those who received in a service often fell away after a few years.
 
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My first wife and I noted that those who are saved/baptized in the spirit/received tongues in private seemed to become most of the ones who had strong ministries after. Those who received in a service often fell away after a few years.

Harry Greenwood, the English healing evangelist who was prominent in the 1970s made the comment about the speaking of tongues. He said that real speaking in tongues comes from the heart and with expression, rather than just from the mouth. When a person speaks from right inside himself. the language is much more articulate and expressive, the the "rababababa" that a lot of people speak when just speaking from their mouths. I took that on board at the time and decided that I was going to express my heart when I spoke in tongues, and the languages I spoke became very articulate and expressive, and I really felt that I was saying important things to God.

I think good counselling for those seeking the gift of tongues is essential. The ones who have received after sound counselling about how, when, where, and why it is used, are those who use it as a lifetime prayer language. I have been praying in tongues for 50 years and it is still the foundation of my prayer life and have experienced remarkable insights and answers to questions throughout that time. It is exciting, and I wouldn't be without it.
 
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I cannot pray in tongues without first starting to praise God. It would have been nice if Mr. Oakley had asked about her Christian life.

Her tongues are thus not real. Besides, after the second sentence (using the term loosely) it was clear it was not.

A child can "play the piano", a real pianist can communicate profound human feeling by playing the piano.

I have heard, and can usually tell, real Godly tongues, this kind of human mimicking, an demonic tongues (21:30), and I can usually tell just by sound. Just like listening to an pianist. 17:38 is real.

I'm new today, and haven't posted a picture or anything, but I do know about tongues. And, yes, I do speak in tongues, and, like you can tell when tongues are not real. I can also tell when they are.
 
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I'm new today, and haven't posted a picture or anything, but I do know about tongues. And, yes, I do speak in tongues, and, like you can tell when tongues are not real. I can also tell when they are.

It's me again, I noticed that my "faith" on my description is Word of Faith. I put charismatic - that is NOT word of faith, and do not belong to any word of faith denomination, nor do I adhere to name it and claim it personal gain theology. Maybe I should put Pentecostal, though I find this umbrella very large too and for the most part doesn't describe me fully either.
 
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