We are talking about tongues the subject matter.. Are they a sign to support believers or a sign against those who beleive not all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) ?
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it's because I don't understand why you're opening this thread up 3 yrs after it died. and the points you are making have nothing to do with what you quoted by me.
I am not following this post, could you clarify please?
We are talking about tongues the subject matter.. Are they a sign to support believers or a sign against those who beleive not all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) ?
I was referring to the first century reformation spoken of in Hebrews 9. It would seemed to be a carbon copy of the 15th century. Have you looked into it?
Its not what?
a carbon copy.
Same law of the fathers as oral traditions of men using a different fleshly father. Both killed the misperceived competition with letters of approval from the high priest to show they were walking by sight as those who lord it over the faith of the non venerable. (Acts 22)
I would consider it the unthinkable. The Jews had the faith that comes from our unseen Holy Father in heaven in respect to the flesh of Abraham . Other sects have the same in respect to our brother in the Lord Peter . Both called sola scriptura a heresy so that they could keep the oral traditions of the fathers. In that way a carbon copy.
Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham (Peter) to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham (Peter) .
Call no man on earth Holy Father.. one is our infallible teaching Master in heaven
Many lively stones make up the spiritual house of God not seen, the invisible church.
this is a bizarre post and jumps around a lot. and shows an ignorance of the early Church
sorry, but this is just a jumbled mess, and really ignorant of history.
Acts 22 and 24 give us a accurate account of history and the law of the fathers (legion or succession ) which apposes the one law of our one Holy Father in heaven .
Its easy to see men were having the faith of men in the place of our one Holy Father in heaven . What they called heresy in regard to Paul in his new denomination(Nazrene) he worshiped the God of the fathers And not fathers(legion) as gods in the likeness of men.
Acts 24 13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets.
Again we worship the God of the fathers and not venerable fathers as if they were God.
Sola scriptura not the oral traditions of those kind of fathers.
In that way no man can serve two teaching Masters. . . the eternal things of God not seen and those temporal of men seen .
this has nothing to do with us or what this discussion was about. seriously, what are you talking about? I really have no interest in derailing a thread that was dead for over three years.
I am talking about what the early church and how a law of the fathers oral traditions of men affected the tongues doctrine.
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