Spanking

[Calminian]

Biblical?

 

[PaladinValer]

Criminal (in many places).

 

[Calminian]

Criminal (in many places).

True. But is it biblical?

 

[Avatar]

Spare the rod, spoil the child.

 

[Calminian]

Spare the rod, spoil the child.

What is the rod?

 

[PaladinValer]

Spare the rod, come up with something instructive.

 

[HisKid1973]

Well the rod wasn't just a "time out" as they do with all the out' of control kids in the school system today..

 

[Calminian]

Spare the rod, come up with something instructive.

IOW, spare the bible?

 

[PaladinValer]

Perhaps if the parents did their job parenting, teachers wouldn't have to be forced to discipline their kids for them?

 

[PaladinValer]

IOW, spare the bible?

In other words, spare literal law, embrace Christ's love.

 

[Calminian]

Well the rod wasn't just a "time out" as they do with all the out' of control kids in the school system today..

Oooh. I remember a paddling I got in first grade. I deserved it actually, and the ACLU, I guess, wasn't around or at full strength yet.

 

[Calminian]

Perhaps if the parents did their job parenting, teachers wouldn't have to be forced to discipline their kids for them?

So, your pro spanking for parents?

 

[Peaceful Dove]

Perhaps if the parents did their job parenting, teachers wouldn't have to be forced to discipline their kids for them?

Teachers discipline kids?

Please tell me what planet you live on, I would move there with my grandkids.

Maybe if government would get out of the parenting lives of families, schools got back to teaching the three R's and parents would get over their fear of the legal system and do something about taking their parental rights back, this would not be an issue.

 

[Calminian]

Teachers discipline kids?

Please tell me what planet you live on, I would move there with my grandkids.

Sorry that was 35 years ago!

 

[PaladinValer]

So, your pro spanking for parents?

Did I say I was?

Teachers discipline kids?

Please tell me what planet you live on, I would move there with my grandkids.

Never physically; they just often are better than the parents.

Maybe if government would get out of the parenting lives of families, schools got back to teaching the three R's and parents would get over their fear of the legal system and do something about taking their parental rights back, this would not be an issue.

1. Child abuse is real and must be dealt with - in force. Take it from someone who knows this problem well.
2. There are several proven methods of dealing with children that do not include being physical. It isn't the children's fault for their parents' inability to try them or to give them a true chance.
3. Without the arts and electives, our children would be far worse in terms of their education than they are not.

As one fictional character said (paraphrasing): "cut the arts and they'll have nothing to write about"

 

[Tonks]

Sending to Christian Philosophy and Ethics.

 

[Calminian]

Did I say I was?



Never physically; they just often are better than the parents.



1. Child abuse is real and must be dealt with - in force. Take it from someone who knows this problem well.
2. There are several proven methods of dealing with children that do not include being physical. It isn't the children's fault for their parents' inability to try them or to give them a true chance.
3. Without the arts and electives, our children would be far worse in terms of their education than they are not.

As one fictional character said (paraphrasing): "cut the arts and they'll have nothing to write about"

I don't think anyone here is for abuse, and certainly you can abuse a child without touching them, so I'm not sure I follow your point. Are you saying spanking is always abuse? Why? Do you prefer modern methods like speed (i.e. Riddlin).

 

[Calminian]

In other words, spare literal law, embrace Christ's love.

I take it you don't see the rod as literal. You may find it interesting, I don't either. The questions is, what do you think the rod is symbolic of? Hugs? Time outs?

 

[lighthousekid]

Come on. Spare the rod, spoil the child is a proverb (duh), a saying, a bit of wisdom. It is not meant to be taken literally.

 

[Calminian]

Come on. Spare the rod, spoil the child is a proverb (duh), a saying, a bit of wisdom. It is not meant to be taken literally.

It's very true that the proverbs often deal in general principals and hyperbole. But this doesn't mean they are meaningless either, nor that they can be interpreted any way we like. So, what does the author's warning against sparing the rod mean? What principal does the rod convey?