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That is horrifying. My ex girlfriend had a picture of her nephew when he was under 2 when I was with her. He had big purple knots above his eye. I asked what happened to him and she said it was his mom. she would take her fist to him. People like that should be hanged.
 
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Just because you were brought up that way, doesn't make it right. Do you seriously want your children to fear (be afraid) of you when you give them a "look"?

Instead, why not gain their respect through relationship?

God is our Father. He does not give us a "look" to keep us in line. He gives us guidelines and trains us gently, not through threat of a spanking, and we fear (awe) him... we are not in fear (afraid) of him.

Please enroll in some parenting classes... there are other ways to have obedient children than spanking them.
 
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I respectfully disagree. 110%.
 
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God is our Father. He does not give us a "look" to keep us in line. He gives us guidelines and trains us gently, not through threat of a spanking, and we fear (awe) him... we are not in fear (afraid) of him.
That is not how many groups teach God.
 
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That is most unfortunate indeed.
I agree totally with you. I remember my cousins gave me a long stick when we were kids in jamaica. I would spend the summer there’s and I would learn about the farm life. I took the stick and wacked the goat, one of the goats charged me up a tree, I stay there for what seemed like hours. The rod of correction is a gentle rod of guidance and lessons.
 
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Av!! Hey, bud! It's been a long time.... I hope your lovely little girl is doing well. I'm glad to hear you look for alternatives to spanking - it makes a big difference to the quality of your relationship with your children, and this lays the foundation for how daughters will search for a partner as well as how well sons will treat their future wives.
 
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That is most unfortunate indeed.

And in turn makes people want nothing to do with God.

In the words of Martin Luther, “ I traded one unloving father for another.”
 
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Well, it looks like this topic opened a pandora's box of troubles.

ONE good book that DOES NOT lead to wickedness is "Children the Challenge".

ANY book or idea or thread topics or posts, BEFORE accepting, always needs to be TESTED, TESTED TESTED by Scripture , always with continual prayer to the Father in heaven ASKING for the Father's Wisdom and TRUTH.

No, I don't think most soon-to-be parents read a lot about raising children and especially about babies. Those who do, usually read ungodly sources and are led to stay on the wide road to destruction.

No, I don't think it is quite common to spank babies. There's no reason to think so.


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I know I did, I’m a bit of a research nerd. I spent countless hours researching, reading the Bible, psychology books and parenting specialists. I know within my community you’d be surprised. A lot of it does come from being the product of freed slaves. Most children that end up in jail in my community were heavily abused. I’ve witness children as young as 12 months being physically disciplined, particularly
In the Deep South.

The black community has a major problem with physical abuse. I wrote a paper in college that tied physical abuse between single mothers and sons with absentee fathers and black men that dated women outside their race at higher numbers. Most of it comes from a slaves religion and not the actual word of God.
 
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I am sorry to say I think I do recall having seen a one year old be spanked.

As a young adult, here are my thoughts and opinions about corporal punishment and physical discipline:

  • I believe that it is important to guide children in the way of the Lord, and to correct them when necessary. I believe that whenever one disciplines a child in order to correct a behavior, it must be done out of love and for the purpose of instructing a child, and never out of hate or spite. Whenever possible, I think that the person disciplining the child should help him or her understand why he or she is being disciplined. I also think that parents should try to model the behaviors they want their child to display, and that alongside discipline to correct a behavior, it would be good to take steps to reinforce a child's positive behaviors.
  • I believe that it is important to take great care that the way one disciplines a child or youth is appropriate to their development and would not cause physical, emotional or mental harm. For example, I think it is important to be careful with words, and if a parent has a child who has a medical condition making heavy physical exercise harmful for them, I do not think it would be appropriate, reasonable or safe to ask a child who has a medical condition restricting heavy physical activity to do heavy physical exercise for the purpose of correction.
  • I believe that one should obey the laws of the land unless they contradict God's word.
  • I do think that corporal punishment can too often go to a harmful extent (whether deliberately or not) causing physical, emotional or mental injury to a child.
 
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Children are learning how to communicate at that age as well. Hitting them early can make them more aggressive, I've seen this in the system. They think violence becomes a natural reaction to anger or a way to communicate since it's been done to them. When they get in trouble for hitting, after learning to hit from others, then it gets confusing and only re-enforces their belief of violence being 'normal'.
 
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Punishment never works. That is only a temporary behaviour modification. Discipline works... where does the word "discipline" come from? We all know it - a disciple is one who is taught; a disciple learns. What can children learn? Character. It is up to the adult to teach our children character and to pass along our values. Correcting a child is about teaching them, not spanking naughty behaviour out of them.

Where I live, it is illegal to spank a child younger than age 2 or over age 12 (just try spanking a 12 year old LOL).

From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/why-you-shouldnt-spank-your-kids-1.3974181

 
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Very rarely will I spank, and not under two. I believe I would for something dangerous as they get older and understand. Like an outlit or running in the street. Because a spank is a pain that is far less then getting hurt like that would be. But for the main part, you want to teach a child to not hit and be nice to others, learn in teachable moments, nurture and listen. Don't condemn. "Words before fists". A correcting rod doesnt just mean spanking. And babies do not understand.
 
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I know this thread is very old, but...

Nobody that I know of in the U.S. spanks babies.
 
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