Soy Makes You Gay

[TracerBullet]

I'm not so sure you understand how the body works then....sorry you didn't understand.

Effeminacy is a trait in males that generally contradicts traditional male (masculine) gender roles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effeminate
not a physical or secondary sex characteristic. Such things happen for any number of reasons which have nothing to do with soy.

Effeminate is a behavior. specifically behavior at odds with traditional male gender roles


http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0335.html

"In baby boys, 12 months of soy feeding can lead to gross effects by the age of 11 or 12. Breasts can appear and testicles do not develop. "
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/soy.htm#a

I somehow doubt that Shriley’s Wellness Café is right up there with the AMA…
But what you present is an un-referenced essay. The reference included on Shirley’s café do not address the claims she and you are making.

And for the sake of inclusion here is the list of references from Shriley’s Wellness Café

• http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1728.76177.
  2. Turner CH, Garetto LP, Dunipace AJ, Zhang W, Wilson ME, Grynpas MD, Chachra D, McClintock R, Peacock M, Stookey GK. Fluoride treatment increased serum IGF-1, bone turnover, and bone mass, but not bone strength, in rabbits. Calcif Tissue Int 61(1):77-83 (1997).
  3. Veldman CM, Schmid C. Differential effects of fluoride and insulin-like growth factor I on sodium-dependent alanine and phosphate transport in a human osteoblast-like cell line. Growth Horm IGF Res 8(1):55-63 (1998).
  4. Fort P, Moses N, Fasano M, Goldberg T, Lifshitz F. Breast and soy-formula feedings in early infancy and the prevalence of autoimmune thyroid disease in children. J Am Coll Nutr 9(2):164-7 (1990); Fort P, Lanes R, Dahlem S, Recker B, Weyman-Daum M, Pugliese M, Lifshitz F. Breast feeding and insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus in children. J Am Coll Nutr 5(5):439-41(1986).
  5. Dabeka RW, McKenzie AD. Aluminium levels in Canadian infant formulate and estimation of aluminium intakes from formulae by infants 0-3 months old. Food Addit Contam 7(2):275-82 (1990).
  6. Dabeka RW, McKenzie AD. Lead, cadmium, and fluoride levels in market milk and infant formulas in Canada. J Assoc Off Anal Chem 70(4):754-7 (1987).
  7. Eklund G, Oskarsson A. Exposure of cadmium from infant formulas and weaning foods. Food Addit Contam 16(12):509-19 (1999).
  8. Hawkins NM, Coffey S, Lawson MS, Delves HT. Potential aluminium toxicity in infants fed special infant formula. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 19(4):377-81 (1994).
  9. McGraw,MD, Bishop N, Jameson R. Aluminum content in milk formulae and intravenous fluids used in infants. Lancet I:157 (1986).
  10. Wenk GL, Stemmer KL. Suboptimal dietary zinc intake increases aluminum accumulation into the rat brain. Brain Res 288:393-395 (1983).
  11. Casey CE, Walravens PA, Hambidge KM . Availability of zinc: loading tests with human milk, cow's milk, and infant formulas. Pediatrics 68(3):394-6 (1981).

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/soydangers.html

nothing to so with either sexual oriention or effeminate behavior.

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/soydangers.html

you might want to look up just what a leaning disability is

 

[gratis]

Effeminacy is a trait in males that generally contradicts traditional male (masculine) gender roles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effeminate
not a physical or secondary sex characteristic. Such things happen for any number of reasons which have nothing to do with soy.

Effeminate is a behavior. specifically behavior at odds with traditional male gender roles















I somehow doubt that Shriley’s Wellness Café is right up there with the AMA…
But what you present is an un-referenced essay. The reference included on Shirley’s café do not address the claims she and you are making.

And for the sake of inclusion here is the list of references from Shriley’s Wellness Café

• http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1728.76177.
  2. Turner CH, Garetto LP, Dunipace AJ, Zhang W, Wilson ME, Grynpas MD, Chachra D, McClintock R, Peacock M, Stookey GK. Fluoride treatment increased serum IGF-1, bone turnover, and bone mass, but not bone strength, in rabbits. Calcif Tissue Int 61(1):77-83 (1997).
  3. Veldman CM, Schmid C. Differential effects of fluoride and insulin-like growth factor I on sodium-dependent alanine and phosphate transport in a human osteoblast-like cell line. Growth Horm IGF Res 8(1):55-63 (1998).
  4. Fort P, Moses N, Fasano M, Goldberg T, Lifshitz F. Breast and soy-formula feedings in early infancy and the prevalence of autoimmune thyroid disease in children. J Am Coll Nutr 9(2):164-7 (1990); Fort P, Lanes R, Dahlem S, Recker B, Weyman-Daum M, Pugliese M, Lifshitz F. Breast feeding and insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus in children. J Am Coll Nutr 5(5):439-41(1986).
  5. Dabeka RW, McKenzie AD. Aluminium levels in Canadian infant formulate and estimation of aluminium intakes from formulae by infants 0-3 months old. Food Addit Contam 7(2):275-82 (1990).
  6. Dabeka RW, McKenzie AD. Lead, cadmium, and fluoride levels in market milk and infant formulas in Canada. J Assoc Off Anal Chem 70(4):754-7 (1987).
  7. Eklund G, Oskarsson A. Exposure of cadmium from infant formulas and weaning foods. Food Addit Contam 16(12):509-19 (1999).
  8. Hawkins NM, Coffey S, Lawson MS, Delves HT. Potential aluminium toxicity in infants fed special infant formula. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 19(4):377-81 (1994).
  9. McGraw,MD, Bishop N, Jameson R. Aluminum content in milk formulae and intravenous fluids used in infants. Lancet I:157 (1986).
  10. Wenk GL, Stemmer KL. Suboptimal dietary zinc intake increases aluminum accumulation into the rat brain. Brain Res 288:393-395 (1983).
  11. Casey CE, Walravens PA, Hambidge KM . Availability of zinc: loading tests with human milk, cow's milk, and infant formulas. Pediatrics 68(3):394-6 (1981).

nothing to so with either sexual oriention or effeminate behavior.

you might want to look up just what a leaning disability is

I am an educator - I know what a learning disability is, thank you for your concern.

And, for myself I don't trust the AMA. They don't care about my health, they care about their money.

I've stated my case to you, and my beliefs in regards to soy. Thank you for the discussion.

 

[*Starlight*]

This is classic. "It's society's fault, not mine!". In the words of C.S. Lewis "'Society' is just a word that means 'other people'". Basically what you are saying is "It's everyone else's fault, not mine, that I'm messed up".

Wow, if stereotypes had mass, then that whole post would collapse under its own gravity, form a black hole and suck the whole universe into it It's so crazy that I just had to reply to it... anyway, just because someone disagrees with the common view of something in the society, it doesn't mean that he or she is messed up! Society isn't always right, and it often has faults.

This is a typical anthem of the spoiled, whiny, helpless cosmpolitan wimp culture that humanism and political correctness is fostering. Then we have some crack-pot egghead from Berkeley backing it up saying that it's not the boy who is sick when he wants to wear pink dresses and have breasts, he says it's everyone else who is sick, only he uses the word 'society'.

And he is absolutely right! Trying to impose stereotypes on others is what's really sick. If someone wants to wear pink dresses and have breasts, then it's good for them, and it's simply not your business.

Gender roles are the problem, not the child? Riiiiight.

Yes! Gender roles are the source of many problems, and the world would be much better with no gender roles at all.

And it's not me who is the problem when I go and hold up some whiny soy-fed liberal with a rubber knife, making him cry and hand over all his food stamps that he got from the welfare state--it's society's property roles that are to blame.

No, then it would be a problem with you, because you would intentionally cause harm to another person. And right now you're trying to compare things which have nothing to do with each other, so the result doesn't make sense at all!

Also, when I push down emo wimps and take their ball on the playground that's just me breaking free of society's chains and living the way I want.

No, then you're forcing others to conform to your way of life, because when you hurt someone, then it stops being just simply your personal thing.

Guys being effemenate is like spoons being sharp and microwaves making things colder.

No, it's not like that.

Men are supposed to be manly, women are supposed to be effeminate. Men are supposed to be strong and not cry.

Who says that? You? Well, I don't think that men are supposed to be manly, strong, and not cry, and that women are supposed to be effeminate. And I have facts on my side. The fact is that every person is different, and things you attribute to gender are really just individual traits which happen to be more common in one gender than the other. But these are just statistics. The purpose of statistics is to describe groups of people. They are meaningless when it comes to individual people instead of group, and if you use them to say what someone should be like, then you're turning their purpose upside down. Statistics only describe people, not define them.

It's an ideal, and that's the way it is.

No, a society of clones who are identical to each other (all men are manly, strong and never cry, and all women are feminine) is not an ideal. It's a nightmare. Wake up!

 

[TracerBullet]

I am an educator - I know what a learning disability is, thank you for your concern.

Yet you seem to be confusing effeminate with a learning disability…

 

[kopilo]

If soy makes you gay then what the heck does milk do?

 

[meebs]

I utterly agree with StarJewel

 

[gratis]

Yet you seem to be confusing effeminate with a learning disability…

No - I think you are confusing my words with that of the studies I posted? Just showing the dangers of soy. Please stop taking my words out of context.

 

[TracerBullet]

No - I think you are confusing my words with that of the studies I posted? Just showing the dangers of soy. Please stop taking my words out of context.

Which is…again…off topic, as the one thing that has not been shown by all your posting is that the consumption of soy makes males effeminate much less making males homosexual.

 

[gratis]

Which is…again…off topic, as the one thing that has not been shown by all your posting is that the consumption of soy makes males effeminate much less making males homosexual.

It's okay. My point has been made.

 

[CriticalMassKitten]

If soy makes you gay then what the heck does milk do?

Makes you Athiest, of course.

 

[meebs]

Makes you Athiest, of course.

That explains it!

I drink lots of milk

oh, but i also drink a lot of chocolate flavored Soy milk!

ah, its ok - im a girl

 

[TracerBullet]

That explains it!

I drink lots of milk

oh, but i also drink a lot of chocolate flavored Soy milk!

ah, its ok - im a girl

So…if you are a female and partake of soy products…will they turn you into a lesbian?

 

[meebs]

lol for some reason the article didnt cover lesbians.

i drink soy and im not a lesbian so who knows?

maybe the guy who wrote the article will bring more of his wisdom in on the subject

 

[christalee4]

No - I think you are confusing my words with that of the studies I posted? Just showing the dangers of soy. Please stop taking my words out of context.

Thanks for providing all of those interesting links. However, none of them positively affirm that soy makes one gay, or even make a man's behavior "effeminate". Male infertility involves a complex set of factors that include lifestyle, genetics and general health. It has nothing to do with a man being gay, or being "effeminate". Dismissing the AMA outright as a leading source of information is akin to dismissing all science as ungodly or not worth considering. I'll take my chances with the AMA over health food internet magazines.

 

[kopilo]

If soy makes people gay and infertile, why does places such as Japan and China have such a high population rate..?

 

[christalee4]

If soy makes people gay and infertile, why does places such as Japan and China have such a high population rate..?

I guess because "they don't matter", or are not included as viable parts of civilization. Only the purity of the white male masculinity is of concern.

 

[kopilo]

"I guess because "they don't matter", or are not included as viable parts of civilization. Only the purity of the white male masculinity is of concern."

Ahh I see I didn't work that one out, silly me. =)

 

[Nathan Poe]

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327

Quote: "A devil food is turning our kids into homosexuals."

It's articles like these that can either make you laugh with the absurdity of it, or cry that there may be quite a few people who agree with this opinion.

Quote: "The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. "

How many theories about homosexuality can be trotted
out like jackets to be tried on? First it's a "choice", then it's because the little boy didn't have a close relationship with his father, now it's... (dramatic music) SOY!

Enjoy.

Looks like somebody's invested heavily against the soy industry...

 

[MemeBuster]

If recent history's any guide, this Rutz guy will probably turn out to be a closet homosexual!

 

[DailyBlessings]

If recent history's any guide, this Rutz guy will probably turn out to be a closet homosexual!

If only those things came out quicker, the gay community would have no troubles at all.