Souls in the unborn.

[Natsumi Lam]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception?

Or do you believe it is at birth?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

Didn't we already see that with John the Baptist?

 

[Natsumi Lam]

Didn't we already see that with John the Baptist?

Yes

 

[HoneyBee]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception?

Or do you believe it is a birth?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

I believe that our souls are given at conception. When human life begins, it happens at the moment of conception. That's why when you're looking at science books when it comes to the life cycle, it always starts at the moment of conception.

It couldn't be at the moment of birth that we receive our souls. To me, that doesn't make sense. A baby is clearly alive before birth, as can be seen by its movements and development (such as a beating heart and brain activity). The birth canal doesn't just magically grant people a soul.

As for whether the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb, that is an obvious "yes" to me. If you look in the Bible, when Mary goes to visit Elizabeth, John the Baptist leaps in Elizabeth's womb with joy, as he can sense the presence of Jesus, who has not yet been born, but is still in Mary's womb.

 

[St_Worm2]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception? Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

Yes & Yes

 

[Lazarus Short]

Deep question - if we follow how God made Adam and how God breathed into the unliving body the breath/Spirit of Life, then maybe the parallel is that the unborn are not "souls." However, the difference is that the body that was to become Adam was not yet living, and the fetus is living from its beginning.

 

[Not David]

That would imply Jesus didn't have a soul until he was born.

 

[david tyler]

PRAY THIS CHANGES QUICKLY

 

[Natsumi Lam]

JUDGEMENT IS COMING,, SWIFT AND HARD,,AMEN

How does this apply to the OP?

 

[RaymondG]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception?

Or do you believe it is a birth?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

I believe that the soul/spirit enters with the breath. Therefore it remains unaffected and gets no free trips to future destinations as a result of a fetus dying in the womb.

If we look at John the Baptist......He was said to have the same spirit as a body that lived long before him.... And of course God knows all who will and will not be born.....therefore he can do as he wishes from the time of conception and there can be no thought of "what if this or that person were never born"

 

[Natsumi Lam]

I believe that the soul/spirit enters with the breath. Therefore it remains unaffected and gets no free trips to future destinations as a result of a fetus dying in the womb.

If we look at John the Baptist......He was said to have the same spirit as a body that lived long before him.... And of course God knows all who will and will not be born.....therefore he can do as he wishes from the time of conception and there can be no thought of "what if this or that person were never born"

So do you believe upon birth a soul is imparted? Just looking for clarification.

 

[RaymondG]

So do you believe upon birth a soul is imparted? Just looking for clarification.

I believe that we are connected to a body at birth, but we exist before and after the body. Finding out and becoming who we are through Christ brings salvation.

 

[salt-n-light]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception?

Or do you believe it is at birth?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

Exhibit A: Jesus

 

[redleghunter]

I believe that we are connected to a body at birth, but we exist before and after the body. Finding out and becoming who we are through Christ brings salvation.

Jesus did not have a soul while in Mary’s womb?

 

[redleghunter]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception?

Or do you believe it is at birth?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

In Scriptures there is never life without a soul. A body without a soul is what we called deceased, dead, assuming room temperature.

 

[Tone]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception?

Or do you believe it is at birth?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

Leviticus 17:11
"For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life."

We are a living soul when there are blood cells.

Luke 1:41
"When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

It says Elizabeth was filled and, obviously, it carried over onto John. So, I would say yes, the Spirit can be imparted in the womb.

 

[SPF]

Do you believe that a soul is imparted at conception?

We know scientifically that a new human being, with its own unique DNA comes into existence and begins a 25 year developmental period at conception. We know Biblically that all human beings are created in the image of God and possess inherent moral worth and value.

Do you believe the Holy Spirit can be imparted in the womb?

Concerning John the Baptist, an angel told Zacharias, "For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother's womb. "

Then when John was about 6 months in the womb, we are told that, "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. "

We can see from Luke 1 that John the Baptist, while still in the womb was filled with the Holy Spirit.

 

[RaymondG]

Jesus did not have a soul while in Mary’s womb?

Jesus existed from before the beginning......He did not begin in the womb of Mary....

 

[redleghunter]

Jesus existed from before the beginning......He did not begin in the womb of Mary....

Ok, we are going to get into Christological issues with this answer. Is not Jesus Christ fully human and fully God? If this is also your view then Jesus would have a human soul as He has two Natures but is One Person.

 

[redleghunter]

Deep question - if we follow how God made Adam and how God breathed into the unliving body the breath/Spirit of Life, then maybe the parallel is that the unborn are not "souls." However, the difference is that the body that was to become Adam was not yet living, and the fetus is living from its beginning.

Yes the difference between directly created as an adult as in Adam and Eve, and procreation as everyone from Adam and Eve.