Soulmates?

[Cherub8]

Does anyone believe that God has a soulmate for everyone?

As a believer in the absolute sovereignty of God in all regards, yes, I do believe that. However, some people have been created celebate.

 

[Onwardclimb]

Is God so small that He would only create "one"?

Are you advocating harems here JW... I doN'T buy the "many ones choose one" theory. Personally I'd feel cheated if I had many ones out there and I was told that I could only have one of my ones ...I'd want 'em all !!!!!!! I don't believe in those types of "marriages"!!!! I do believe in a variation of soulmates/the one, though. Basically what I believe is that for those who God has planned will marry, God chooses, or at least He SHOULD choose, your spouse. I think He'll lead you to them/them to you with His devine Soveriegn hand. I also think that where the whole "free will" thing comes in is that you basically have "free-will" to follow God's leading/will or not He won't force you to be obedient to Him, and He won't force His best on you.

I don't think that God has created a whole bunch of perfectly suited people out there for us all and hid them all around the earth and said your job is to find the one you like best and it doesn't matter which one you choose because they're all the same. I think that IF I believed in a distant God then I'd believe in the person doing the choosing, BUT God has been so active and upclose and personal with me in my life that I just caN'T believe He's like that.

As for scenarios like the one you gave, I believe that God supplies our needs as they come. If a person becomes a widow/-er and God planned from the start that another person would take the dead person's place and He sends them that other person, then in that case God had more than one in mind, or if God's choice uses their "free-will" to reject you, visa versa, and God lets them choose/follow thier way instead of God's, visa versa, while God chooses a different person for you... thinking of King Saul here.

Basically, what I'm saying is that God will supply our needs as they come and He sees fit. He's not going to fault us for another's disobedience and if we're rejected and/or our spouses die He might have another in mind, or He might not...it all hinges on what He wants to do in our specific lives. Even in situations like that I think God doesn't disperse many ones for you to shuffle through and choose one from, rather I think that He sees you have a need and He supplies it, in His timing and in His way, with ONE person/His CHOICE and you either accept it or reject it. Sometimes you have to wait for it though .

 

[waterbear]

God has created a plan for each one of us to make us happy. He gave us all a purpose in order for us to glorify him, win souls for his kingdom, and to bring us joy. Likewise he has given us soulmates to bring us joy and to complete us. I strongly believe that our destinies are tied with our soulmates. Your soulmate will have strengths to build upon your weaknesses and vice versa.

But if point on later on that we don't necessarily know what will make us happy (confusing lust with love) - so why are you assuming a soul mate provides more happiness than not?

If you see a weakness in your personality, fix it - it's borderline hypocritical to be attracted to something you're too lazy to deal with yourself.

 

[waterbear]

Who here believes that God will send you a person that completely fulfill you in everyway if you just ask him in prayer? If God can give you direction for your purpose and other matters, he can surely do so in this area.

But it's not obvious that it's better to be married than not...

I stress the point that everyone should just pray for God to send them the mate perfect instead going around dating the wrong people and forming emotional and soul ties. I have heard of couples being revealed through dreams, visions,etc.For instance, there was a couple on the show Celebration (on Daystar Tv) who said that they got
dreams about one another before meeting. The man who lived in the U.S. even saw a flight number in his dream and one day he decided to take a step of faith and flew oversees where the woman lived. It was love at first sight when they met.

If you really want a mate, but don't seek one assuming one will be provided, but it isn't provided you'd be If you really want a mate, but seek one although you think it may be provided, you may find someone while being true to yourself who will work

Anyways, God didn't make it impossible for at least to know who or what our mate should be like. We were not born blank slates. I have an identical twin sister who is my best friend and even we disagree who an ideal mate would be. We were born with dislikes and likes. People should just be true to themselves when they come up with a criteria for a mate instead of listening to society and their family.

I fully agree that people should stick to their ideals... with the exception that you don't always know the basis for your ideals. It can be extremely difficult to discern if a like or dislike is rooted in a spiritual want (a 'righteous desire') or a flesh/weakness want (which is presumably not 'righteous'). I think it's appropriate to try to understand what you would be content with in life - if you would be content as a single, then you should probably be a bit more idealistic than someone who really, really does not want to remain single.

 

[~DESTINY~]

It seems like one of the problem here is the terminology used..."soul mate". Personally, to me whoever God chooses as the BEST person for me is my "soul mate"...because that person was divinely chosen by God to be my mate.To different people it means different things...


I know for a fact that God knows who the best person for each of us is. He is GOD. Sometimes people forget that GOD is all knowing and omnicient.

In fact, God showed me the man he wants for me and glimpses of our future (and each child we would have). I had got to the point were I was so tired and decided to forget the whole marriage idea. I started focusing on God and I grew very strong in my walk. That was when God began to show me my husband and my purpose. And GOd did the same for my sister. Then I started hearing other people's testimonies of who God showed them their mate. So I'm not special...I know of LOTS of people who have had the same experience.

But I understand why a lot of you doubt that God will bring you someone. I used to be there. At the time, it felt a lot easier to DOUBT God rather than to TRUST him. And sadly I didn't realize that my fears and doubts are the things that prevented my from being a strong christian and from being intimate with God. So eventhough I was a christian I didn't KNOW him and it was a lot easier to doubt someone that you don't know.

With GOD's divine insight and wisdom he definitely makes the best matchmaker. He created all of us and he knows everything about us. Anyways, marriage is for life and I'm glad that I'm getting the best that God has for me.

 

[~DESTINY~]

But if point on later on that we don't necessarily know what will make us happy (confusing lust with love) - so why are you assuming a soul mate provides more happiness than not?.

I don't think she is assuming anything. Remember it was GOD alone that decided that it's not good for man to be alone.

If you see a weakness in your personality, fix it - it's borderline hypocritical to be attracted to something you're too lazy to deal with yourself

...I think that she was talking about personality type and not personality flaws. Once God determines all of your personality attritubes you can't change that. LOL

Hey check eharmony and the theory it's based on. That will help you undertand the compatibilty theory she's talking about. It's hard to explain...God gave us a complete personality but our mate balances us. It's kind of like how as a women I have certain physical attributes... but my husband will bring to the relationship his own set of physcial attritubutes. I'm not lacking anything as a women, but together we form one. Well, I hope that made any sense...

 

[waterbear]

I don't think she is assuming anything. Remember it was GOD alone that decided that it's not good for man to be alone.

Aren't there also passages to the effect that it's good to be celibate?

...I think that she was talking about personality type and not personality flaws. Once God determines all of your personality attritubes you can't change that. LOL

Well, if my personality attributes determine the personality I would like to have, I would presumably become that personality. I don't see any justification for not having the personality type you would like to have, and why would someone want to have a personality type that they view as incomplete?

Hey check eharmony and the theory it's based on. That will help you undertand the compatibilty theory she's talking about. It's hard to explain...God gave us a complete personality but our mate balances us. It's kind of like how as a women I have certain physical attributes... but my husband will bring to the relationship his own set of physcial attritubutes. I'm not lacking anything as a women, but together we form one. Well, I hope that made any sense...

I used to favor the oneness idea more, but it has become apparent to me that the vast majority of myself doesn't appear to have a means of being externalized, which makes most of me unable to a relationship with a being which isn't able to literally share my conciousness.

As for eharmony, it said its models didn't apply to me I have a very clear notion of the ideal personality match for me - because the ideal personality match for me is very close to my current chosen personality. As my personality is very, very rare, eharmony was quite correct in telling me it couldn't help.

 

[~DESTINY~]

As for eharmony, it said its models didn't apply to me I have a very clear notion of the ideal personality match for me - because the ideal personality match for me is very close to my current chosen personality. As my personality is very, very rare, eharmony was quite currect in telling me it couldn't help.

Since you have a rare personality it would make even more sense to see who God thinks is best for you...

Actually, I was telling you to check out eharmony's compatibility theory because I could tell that you didn't understand what Angel*Eyes was saying about compatibility. I've studied a lot of psychology and biology/anatomy....and I know that when I try to explain it to others they're like . Well, anyways it's not necessary to know the psychology unless you plan to be a psychologist or a doctor. So well let that go...

Anyways, if you go back and look at my post you'll see that I was saying that I know for a fact that GOD knows who the best person for everybody is and is willing to help in that area. But for those who don't want his help that's their choice...but no one can say that he doesn't care or isn't willing to give his divine insight.

 

[waterbear]

Since you have a rare personality it would make even more sense to see who God thinks is best for you...

But that'd be my personality of course I spend a good chunck of my thoughts on efforts to further idealize my personality, my interaction with God seems to endorse major portions of what I intend.

Actually, I was telling you to check out eharmony's compatibility theory because I could tell that you didn't understand what Angel*Eyes was saying about compatibility. I've studied a lot of psychology and biology/anatomy....and I know that when I try to explain it to others they're like . Well, anyways it's not necessary to know the psychology unless you plan to be a psychologist or a doctor. So well let that go...

Anyways, if you go back and look at my post you'll see that I was saying that I know for a fact that GOD knows who the best person for everybody is and is willing to help in that area. But for those who don't want his help that's their choice...but no one can say that he doesn't care or isn't willing to give his divine insight.

You can try to explain this notion of compatiblity if you like, I can see how multiple paradigms can be beneficial, but I already seem to practice that internally so a mate intended to this effect would be redundant.

When you can define who you are, you'll know who your ideal mate is. While one could try asking God who one is, I'm not sure one would understand the answer (not to mention doing that would take away a seemingly endless source of entertainment)

 

[sweetlambofgod]

i believe God made a soulmate for everyone

 

[joeman1]

I don't know if its that God has made a soulmate for everyone, but I do beleive that God makes certain personalities attract to one another. Think about it everyone is a little different but there are some main traits which we all associate with and each one has an attraction to another. Well at least thats my opinion.

 

[~DESTINY~]

When you can define who you are, you'll know who your ideal mate is. While one could try asking God who one is, I'm not sure one would understand the answer ...

That's the point!

It's best to leave the "science" up to God unless you want to make a career out of it...lol

As humans we are so complicated...we can't even fiqure ourselves out and yet we think we know exactly what we need in a mate. But for those
who you who think you do, it'll be difficult but I wish you the best of luck.

Even when it comes to careers most people think they know what they want...but after a mid-life crisis they try to refigure out what they want to do with their life. But with marriage it's not that easy to change "midstream". And for the most part God isn't fond of divorce.

And I know that my wisdom is nothing compared to GOD"s insight...so that's why I let him be my matchmaker.

 

[wis]

I think God has a plan for everyone. Sometimes it is better for someone to be single according to his/her personality (in this case I think there isn't soulmate for he/she) Or if God sees that it is better for someone to be married, He has soulmate for he/she. God wants us to act in His good plans for us too. Therefore, we have responsibility to know ourselves then we will recognize who is the real one from God.

Our soulmates will come when we are ready physically and mentally.Only God knows when we will be ready. His intention is healthy marriage not divorce. I saw many christian expect their mates to be a perfect soulmates from God who will make their life be like a fairy tales. There is no such perfect soulmate; however, I think God prepares someone for us to teach us to be a person like him- love without condition, always forgive and petient to others' fault.

I read that there is sharp increase in christian divorce around the world. Umm..I don't know whether they married a wrong soulmate or they don't have ability to keep their soulmates. Maybe we can learn about "soulmate" in divorce forums.

 

[JWBZ SVT]

As for scenarios like the one you gave, I believe that God supplies our needs as they come. If a person becomes a widow/-er and God planned from the start that another person would take the dead person's place and He sends them that other person, then in that case God had more than one in mind, or if God's choice uses their "free-will" to reject you, visa versa, and God lets them choose/follow thier way instead of God's, visa versa, while God chooses a different person for you... thinking of King Saul here.

Basically, what I'm saying is that God will supply our needs as they come and He sees fit. He's not going to fault us for another's disobedience and if we're rejected and/or our spouses die He might have another in mind, or He might not...it all hinges on what He wants to do in our specific lives. Even in situations like that I think God doesn't disperse many ones for you to shuffle through and choose one from, rather I think that He sees you have a need and He supplies it, in His timing and in His way, with ONE person/His CHOICE and you either accept it or reject it. Sometimes you have to wait for it though .

I thought you had COMPLETELY missed my point until I read the above quoted paragraphs of your response. I think you made a mighty big assumption in your initial paragraph (the one saying go through the world looking and choosing). It's all good though.

 

[Silver Speak]

I believe that there are so many divorces because people aren't waiting for God to send them their soulmate.

I think there are so many divorces 'cause people are looking for someone they're perfectly compatible with. When problems occur they go: "Well, I guess (s)he wasn't my soulmate and we weren't meant to be together!"

I would be very careful about the whole 'soulmate'-thing (not really speculating if there is or is not such thing) because you might develop a false belief that you're gonna be perfectly compatible with someone, which just, well, doesn't happen. There are gonna be things about your significant other that just drive you up the wall but instead of letting it take the best of you, you should work on trying to live with all that's 'wrong' about the other person. All I'm saying.

After all, I believe God has a plan for you and your future spouse and that includes, logically, the two of you meeting and finding all those special things within each other and ending up being together (Well, I guess one can mess that up among other things..). I really don't know, not having experienced something like that. If you love that person, you probably find them 'perfect' for you and you alone but I don't think I've ever really been in love, so, can't comment on that!

 

[Silver Speak]

Oops, I'm sorry, I think I'm repeating what other people said before!

 

[theophilus05]

I think God has a plan for each one of us and I know that he knows who Im going to marry or if I'll even be married. But, I dont think necessarily that we have soul mates. I have met a couple of girls that we have been completely compatible (at least from what we saw) but other things factored in and we couldnt stay together. I think there are several people out there that we would be "perfect" for but you only can have one. That's what I think after I sat down to think about the soul mate thing.

-Matt

 

[Onwardclimb]

....I think you made a mighty big assumption in your initial paragraph (the one saying go through the world looking and choosing). It's all good though.

Hey JW... ,

I wasn't trying to tell people to go through the world looking and choosing. I'm TOTALLY AGAINST that!!!!