aiki
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"Maybe the soup made a cell"? That's ground enough to think life came from non-life? Thinking this way isn't a disease. If it was a disease, then you could say you weren't responsible for it, which is why, I suspect, many atheists like to talk this way. They carry on as though they are at the mercy of a stubbornly skeptical mind that keeps them from belief, or they just don't have any faith, or there isn't convincing evidence, etc., etc. THey seem to want at all costs to avoid simply admitting the truth: they just don't want to believe there is a God. God hasn't cast you out and you aren't demon possessed. You just don't want to believe that God is and that someday you will have to answer to Him for how you've lived out the life He gave you.1: this goes back to what I said before. I do think its ridiculous to believe the universe came from nothing and that first life came from some soup or what have you. But hears the thing. I know how stupid is to believe those things but yet I actually try to rationalize them. Like I will literally say to myself, okay maybe the soup made a cell, and it split, and then this and then that. Basically, I have the same disease atheists have. We can't see anything else but natural and material things. We don't allow supernatural things to even be possible. And at least with my case its not that I'm being stubborn at all I just can't help it. This is why I have told my mother that I think God has either cast me out or that I really do have a demon living inside me.
Actually, this isn't quite what I said. Or, at least, it wasn't what I intended to say. You were talking as though some part of your mind was working contrary to what you wanted, that it was beyond your control and making you adopt atheistic ideas. My response is that your mind is you; it reflects precisely what you want it to reflect. But this means that you are responsible for what you have chosen to believe and that you have the power to change what you believe. You aren't a helpless victim of some odd atheistic infection. You are choosing to adopt atheistic views and you can just as easily choose not to. It's all basically a matter of what you truly want.my second thought is what Selah told me. He said until I fess up and accept that my atheistic mindset is not just in my mind but is actually who I am...
You cannot seek the truth when your first step on the road to truth is to embrace a falsehood. Matthew, do you believe there are such things as virtue, and integrity, or motives, or love? Can you tell me how much love weighs? Can you smell integrity? Can you collect motives and boil them in a test tube? Is virtue soft or hard, flexible or brittle? All of these things exist and yet none of them (and many others besides) can be directly subjected to empirical testing. But if these intangible things exist, why can't a transcendent, intangible God exist? And if these things cannot be assessed and scrutinized by the empirical method but are nonetheless actually existent, why must we be able to prove empirically that God exists? Why can't God exist in the way integrity or love does?This makes sense because just earlier, as well as other times, I will get into a panic and get anxious and get sick to my stomach, but its not until I relax and tell myself "okay Matthew you don't believe in a spirit or miracles and you see things in a natural way now, now that we know that we can seek truth".
Well, many others have weathered the assault of doubt that you're experiencing and have come through stronger in their faith, not weaker. This time of doubting can be a blessing or curse to you. It all depends upon how you choose to respond to your doubt. God will certainly not be fooled by the argument that you had some uncontrollable urge to be atheistic. He knows better - and I suspect so do you.But you see, take it as you will, I remember growing up and I would run into atheists and I would tell myself I could never be like him/her they are horrible/mean/rebellious people. In other words, I look at my current unbelief in the eyes of the Christian boy I once was. And I hate it. God have mercy on my soul
Selah.
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