Some Reasons I Don't Believe in Evolution

[MariaRegina]

I took an elective course in language development once, and Pinker's The Language Instinct was the assigned textbook. I read the thing in a week, ignoring the prof's reading schedule. That got me to take more courses in linguistics, which turned out to be my best subject.

Also perhaps of interest, the course was taught by Laura-Ann Petitto, who was one of the first undergrad students who worked with Nim Chimpsky. So she had first hand experience with the language acquisition of apes, and how different it actually is.

Nim Chimpsky?



Is this the name of one of the apes?

 

[AV1611VET]

Nim Chimpsky?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

There will always be apes as long as we are around, because we are apes. Your question is thus, "why are there other apes, if we evolved from apes?" Simple. Evolution is not a ladder-like progression, it is a branching tree or bush. Thus, chimpanzees and gorillas are just as evolved along their own paths as we are.

wouldn't there have been apes, chimps and gorillas aboard Noah's ark

Rotherham) Genesis 7:1 And Yahweh said to Noah "Enter thou and all thy house, into the ark for thee, have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
2 Of all the clean beasts, shalt thou take to thee by sevens, a male and his female,--and of the beasts that are not clean, shall be two, a male and his female.
3 Also, of the bird of the heavens by sevens, male and female,--to keep alive a seed on the face of all the earth.
4 For in seven days more, I am sending rain on the earth forty days and forty nights,--so will I wipe out all the living things which I have made, from off the face of the ground.

hypnotized Fleetwood Mac - YouTube

 

[brinny]

Roflolol!!!

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by MariaRegina
Nim Chimpsky?

 

[brinny]

wouldn't there have been apes, chimps and gorillas aboard Noah's ark

Rotherham) Genesis 7:1 And Yahweh said to Noah "Enter thou and all thy house, into the ark for thee, have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
2 Of all the clean beasts, shalt thou take to thee by sevens, a male and his female,--and of the beasts that are not clean, shall be two, a male and his female.
3 Also, of the bird of the heavens by sevens, male and female,--to keep alive a seed on the face of all the earth.
4 For in seven days more, I am sending rain on the earth forty days and forty nights,--so will I wipe out all the living things which I have made, from off the face of the ground.

hypnotized Fleetwood Mac - YouTube

Interesting post, and yes, God called them "beasts", for that's what they are, and still are. it's quite evident. Whoop, there is is LOL!

 

[Skaloop]

Nim Chimpsky?



Is this the name of one of the apes?

It's an interesting story. She went into it fully expecting to be able to teach that chimp sign language. And while they were certainly able to teach him signs, they weren't able to get him to comprehend or use those signs as a language.

Nim Chimpsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Texan40]

It's an interesting story. She went into it fully expecting to be able to teach that chimp sign language. And while they were certainly able to teach him signs, they weren't able to get him to comprehend or use those signs as a language.

Nim Chimpsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It would make Noam Chomsky so proud.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It's an interesting story. She went into it fully expecting to be able to teach that chimp sign language. And while they were certainly able to teach him signs, they weren't able to get him to comprehend or use those signs as a language.

Nim Chimpsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now if we can just teach 'em to fly, which brings to mind this kewl movie

Project X - Trailer #1 (1987) - YouTube

 

[AV1611VET]

Gorilla's Goodbye - YouTube

 

[MariaRegina]

It's an interesting story. She went into it fully expecting to be able to teach that chimp sign language. And while they were certainly able to teach him signs, they weren't able to get him to comprehend or use those signs as a language.

Nim Chimpsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even the experiments with Washoe and others proved that apes do not have an inborn human language facility. True, in some experiments female chimps were able to teach their babies a few signs, but it was not significant, and the babies were not able to "fill in the gaps in sign language" as human babies are able to do.

Chimps lack the creative ability of humans.

Interestingly there are multiple study of human twins who will develop their own language that their own mother cannot understand. These twins can then gift this special language to other babies who have close contact with them because humans have this innate/inborn language facility that enables them to ACQUIRE language easily. Second language acquisition is much harder than first language acquisition.

 

[brinny]

Even the experiments with Washoe and others proved that apes do not have an inborn human language facility. True, in some experiments female chimps were able to teach their babies a few signs, but it was not significant, and the babies were not able to "fill in the gaps in sign language" as human babies are able to do.

Chimps lack the creative ability of humans.

Interestingly there are multiple study of human twins who will develop their own language that their own mother cannot understand. These twins can then gift this special language to other babies who have close contact with them because humans have this innate/inborn language facility that enables them to ACQUIRE language easily. Second language acquisition is much harder than first language acquisition.

That's AWESOME!!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Gorilla's Goodbye - YouTube

I am more partial to orangatans

RIGHT TURN CLYDE! - YouTube

 

[brinny]

I am more partial to orangatans

RIGHT TURN CLYDE! - YouTube

LOL! YES!!!! Love it!!!!

 

[MariaRegina]

Question: How did humans get this infinite ability to combine words, create sentences, and then revise them in almost infinite ways?

The CREATIVE WORD is a gift from our Creator.

This infinitely creative language facility that human possess distinguishes us from apes, chimps, birds, and bees. This language facility did not just evolve.

This is why I do not believe in random evolution. There had to be a God-factor at work here, call it what you may.

 

[AV1611VET]

Question: How did humans get this infinite ability to combine words, create sentences, and then revise them in almost infinite ways?

Scientists worked overtime to invent...

 

[MariaRegina]

Scientists worked overtime to invent...

Oh, you must be referring to the Internet, the laptop, the cell-phone, and the Smart phone.

 

[brinny]

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, you must be referring to the Internet, the laptop, the cell-phone, and the Smart phone.

Yup --

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Scientists worked overtime to invent...

They must have been thinking of Mrs Cravis

NKJV) 1 Timothy 5:13 And besides they learn [to be] idle, wandering about from house to house, and not only idle but also gossips and busybodies, saying things which they ought not.

Gregory's Favorite Bewitched Moment No. 1 - YouTube