Some questions for Christians who accept evolution

[AV1611VET]

You're dealing with a man who thinks Adam and Eve spoke King James' English.

Yup.

 

[Colter]

Ever heard of the Tower of Babel?

God could make Abram speak Swahili, if He wanted to.

After the devastating blow of the Babylonian exile on the Israelite Nationalist ego, the elite Hebrew priest class basically rewrote Hebrew history into what we would call a Hollywood drama. They needed something more spectacular than the truth of their common place, rather routine secular history to keep the scattered Israelites together. It worked, not withstanding the effect those petrified writings have had on people today who live in a kind of Harry Potter like world.

 

[AV1611VET]

After the devastating blow of the Babylonian exile on the Israelite Nationalist ego, the elite Hebrew priest class basically rewrote Hebrew history into what we would call a Hollywood drama. They needed something more spectacular than the truth of their common place, rather routine secular history to keep the scattered Israelites together. It worked, not withstanding the effect those petrified writings have had on people today who live in a kind of Harry Potter like world.

People have been rewriting what God said since the garden of Eden.

What they can't do though, is prevent the Truth from being published.

They can try to dilute it [insert Leprechaun parable here], but they can't eradicate it.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

After the devastating blow of the Babylonian exile on the Israelite Nationalist ego, the elite Hebrew priest class basically rewrote Hebrew history into what we would call a Hollywood drama. They needed something more spectacular than the truth of their common place, rather routine secular history to keep the scattered Israelites together. It worked, not withstanding the effect those petrified writings have had on people today who live in a kind of Harry Potter like world.

Except these claimed fictional writings are what modern archeologists use to look for dig sites. What I find fascinating is that one of the most accurate historical books in the world, is discounted when it comes to everything else it says, even if its accuracy has been proven historically beyond doubt. Just fascinating the ability of people to deceive themselves as to its accuracy being non-existent.

 

[Colter]

Except these claimed fictional writings are what modern archeologists use to look for dig sites. What I find fascinating is that one of the most accurate historical books in the world, is discounted when it comes to everything else it says, even if its accuracy has been proven historically beyond doubt. Just fascinating the ability of people to deceive themselves as to its accuracy being non-existent.

The problem is it's an exaggeration, an embellishment for effect. So yes, archeologist can find the remains of the ordinary life of the Israelites.

 

[Colter]

People have been rewriting what God said since the garden of Eden.

What they can't do though, is prevent the Truth from being published.

They can try to dilute it [insert Leprechaun parable here], but they can't eradicate it.

Sort of, only it was the writing of the Holy men to begin with. In Samuel a holy man said God incited David to number Israel. After Babylon the Chronicler changed that to Satan causing David to number Israel and God was not happy.

It's not God that Changes, it's mans understanding based on revelations great and small.

 

[Loudmouth]

Perhaps this is the reason, "The western media, particularly in Europe, strongly promotes Darwinian evolution and an old earth. The secular scientific community does likewise e.g. the Royal Society, which counts 21 Nobel Prize winners among its Fellows, claims that Creationism is unscientific and wrong and that evolution is right."

So why would Christians insist that Christian theology be wrong? Why do creationists insist on a theology that is so easily proven wrong? If we can't trust God's creation to tell us the truth, then why should we trust God's word?

If the subject of Creation has not been studied, then biblical fundamentals are easily undermined by secular arguments. If fundamental concepts in Genesis are undermined, such as the concept of man as a special and unique creation, the concept of man's sin and The Fall, the concept of a righteous God who judged the world through a Flood, and the concept of the need for redemption, then the rest of the biblical cards tumble. Who then needs Christ as Saviour? Theistic evolutionists attempt to marry these essential biblical concepts with evolutionary science, but how much have they studied the science of Creationism?"

Insisting on an easily disproved theology seems like a much easier way to undermine the Bible. An insistence on YEC is perhaps the best way to undermine Christianity. Fortunately for you, the majority of Christians in the Western world reject creationist theologies.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The problem is it's an exaggeration, an embellishment for effect. So yes, archeologist can find the remains of the ordinary life of the Israelites.

Indeed. Archaeologists located the city of Troy -- therefore everything in The Illiad must be historically accurate.

Perhaps Christians are worshiping the wrong gods?

 

[AV1611VET]

Indeed. Archaeologists located the city of Troy -- therefore everything in The Illiad must be historically accurate.

Perhaps Christians are worshiping the wrong gods?

Or perhaps they have Boolean standards like mine?

 

[HitchSlap]

Or perhaps they have Boolean standards like mine?

On the order of over 33,000 "Boolean" standards.

 

[AV1611VET]

On the order of over 33,000 "Boolean" standards.

And yet, I'll bet not one of them think 'everything in The Illiad must be historically accurate.'

 

[HitchSlap]

And yet, I'll bet not one of them think 'everything in The Illiad must be historically accurate.'

I suppose Illiad only literalists would disagree with you?

 

[AV1611VET]

I suppose Illiad only literalists would disagree with you?

I suppose so.

Do you know any?

 

[HitchSlap]

I suppose so.

Do you know any?

Nope. Shouldn't be too hard to find. You've already demonstrated a person can convince themselves of just about anything, so prior probability = 1.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

The problem is it's an exaggeration, an embellishment for effect. So yes, archeologist can find the remains of the ordinary life of the Israelites.

Sort of embellishing and exaggerating things for effect, like calling finches that interbreed and produce fertile offspring separate species so you can claim an example of speciation? Even if DNA tests purportedly show they have been doing so since they first arrived on the islands. One big happy family. A mistake in classification that for some reason evolutionists continue to try to embellish and exaggerate instead of just correct it.

There is only one scientific and logical conclusion about the finches - and for some reason evolutionist's seem to want to avoid that conclusion and pretend otherwise.

 

[Colter]

Indeed. Archaeologists located the city of Troy -- therefore everything in The Illiad must be historically accurate.

Perhaps Christians are worshiping the wrong gods?

Yes true, just like that.

 

[Colter]

Nope. Shouldn't be too hard to find. You've already demonstrated a person can convince themselves of just about anything, so prior probability = 1.

Is there a KJV of the Illiad?

 

[AV1611VET]

Is there a KJV of the Illiad?

Nimrod, who used to be a "mighty hunter before the LORD," blackslid and built one of the most ... if not the most ... empires on the face of the earth.

From that empire came The Illiad.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Indeed. Archaeologists located the city of Troy -- therefore everything in The Illiad must be historically accurate.

Perhaps Christians are worshiping the wrong gods?

Ahhh, but we were warned against worshiping stars and planets like Venus and Mars. Are you suggesting they are gods because some confused them to be such? To believe we may be worshiping the wrong gods implies you believe there may be gods. Or was that just a strawman like your finches?

 

[Ada Lovelace]

Completely random question. Why does this thread and others look like this when viewing them from the main section page for this area and have the N/A? I thought maybe the threads had been closed but they're still active. I'm just confuzzled....