Some Basic Islamic Beliefs

[Boss]

1) Belief in God
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Muslims believe in one, unique, incomparable God, Who has no son nor partner, and that none has the right to be worshipped but Him alone. He is the true God, and every other deity is false. He has the most magnificent names and sublime perfect attributes. No one shares His divinity, nor His attributes. In the Quran, God describes Himself: Say, "He is God, the One. God, to Whom the creatures turn for their needs. He begets not, nor was He begotten, and there is none like Him." (Quran, 112:1-4)

No one has the right to be invoked, supplicated, prayed to, or shown any act of worship, but God alone. God alone is the Almighty, the Creator, the Sovereign, and the Sustainer of everything in the whole universe. He manages all affairs. He stands in need of none of His creatures, and all His creatures depend on Him for all that they need. He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing, and the All-Knowing. In a perfect manner, His knowledge encompasses all things, the open and the secret, and the public and the private. He knows what has happened, what will happen, and how it will happen. No affair occurs in the whole world except by His will. Whatever He wills is, and whatever He does not will is not and will never be. His will is above the will of all the creatures. He has power over all things, and He is able to do everything. He is the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, and the Most Beneficent. In one of the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, we are told that God is more merciful to His creatures than a mother to her child. God is far removed from injustice and tyranny. He is All-Wise in all of His actions and decrees. If someone wants something from God, he or she can ask God directly without asking anyone else to intercede with God for him or her.
God is not Jesus, and Jesus is not God. Even Jesus himself rejected this. God has said in the Quran: Indeed, they have disbelieved who have said, "God is the Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary." The Messiah said, "Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever associates partners in worship with God, then God has forbidden Paradise for him, and his home is the Fire (Hell). For the wrongdoers, there will be no helpers." (Quran, 5:72)

2) Belief in the Angels
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Muslims believe in the existence of the angels and that they are honored creatures. The angels worship God alone, obey Him, and act only by His command. Among the angels is Gabriel, who brought down the Quran to Muhammad

3) Belief in God's Revealed Books
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Muslims believe that God revealed books to His messengers as proof for mankind and as guidance for them. Among these books is the Quran, which God revealed to the Prophet Muhammad. God has guaranteed the Quran's protection from any corruption or distortion. God has said: Indeed, We have sent down the Quran, and surely We will guard it (from corruption). (Quran, 15:9)


4) Belief in the Prophets and Messengers of God
Muslims believe in the prophets and messengers of God, starting with Adam, including Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and Jesus (peace be upon them). But God's final message to man, a reconfirmation of the eternal message, was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad. Muslims believe that Muhammad is the last prophet sent by God, as God has said: Muhammad is not the father of any one of your men, but he is the Messenger of God and the last of the prophets...(Quran, 33:40)
Muslims believe that all the prophets and messengers were created human beings who had none of the divine qualities of God.

5) Belief in the Day of Judgment
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Muslims believe in the Day of Judgment (the Day of Resurrection) when all people will be resurrected for God's judgment according to their beliefs and deeds.

6) Belief in Al-Qadar
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Muslims believe in Al-Qadar, which is Divine Predestination, but this belief in Divine Predestination does not mean that human beings do not have freewill. Rather, Muslims believe that God has given human beings freewill. This means that they can choose right or wrong and that they are responsible for their choices.
The belief in Divine Predestination includes belief in four things: 1) God knows everything. He knows what has happened and what will happen. 2) God has recorded all that has happened and all that will happen. 3) Whatever God wills to happen happens, and whatever He wills not to happen does not happen. 4) God is the Creator of everything.

 

[Havoc]

A good summary, Thanx Boss

 

[Jesusfreekwanabe]

to boss the fist princable u mentioned is contradictory to the tora u mentoined that God would share non of his aturbirutes , for u r decived , did Not God creat us in his immage , for we have 2arms legs eyes ears ect ect ect


YEa i have discredeated islam ( im saying this jokeinlgy i think it was a missinterpation )

 

[Havoc]

I think Boss was pretty clear that these are Islamic Beliefs. Whether they contradict the Jewish Torah or not is not relevant to the OP.

 

[roadie432002]

the apostle Paul wrote in Galations 1:8,9.But even if we,or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel(good news) to you than what we have preached to you let him be accursed.As we have said before,so now i say again,if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received,let him be accursed.This was written around 49 AD.In AD 610 when Mohammad was 40 he had a visitation that would become known as "The Night of Power"The Koran was not actually written down until years after Mohammads death.Some of the revelations about the "daughters of Allah"were later rejected by Mohammad
and are known as the Satanic Verses.The Ayatollas of Iran have issued a death sentence against a Muslim named Salman Rushdie for daring to write a book about these verses! Just a few reasons to question the Koran.The God of the Jews and Christians is not the God of the Muslim faith.God the father has a son,the The Lord Jesus Christ who is God in the flesh!

 

[Arikay]

Roadie, if you would like to substantiate those comments, Might I recomend moving it to another thread? as the point of the OP seems to be to explain islamic beliefs, not to debate them.

 

[Brain Damage]

Boss . Well that's proof enough that we worship different Gods.

 

[Havoc]

Nooooooooo...

If it's proof of anything it's proof you worship God differently. You both worship the God of Abraham, you just disagree on the nature of that God, much the same way as Christianity and Judeaism.

 

[Zico]

Well put brother Boss.
Good reasoning dear Havoc.

 

[Alexei]

I would have never said it better Havoc
Well done

 

[Teh Wiccan]

FInally, a non-religion bashing truthful summary of another Religion... This is a welcome change.

 

[Boss]

"Careful, Boss is here"!

to boss the fist princable u mentioned is contradictory to the tora u mentoined that God would share non of his aturbirutes , for u r decived , did Not God creat us in his immage , for we have 2arms legs eyes ears ect ect ect

No. God didn't creat anybody or anything in his immage because nobody is like him. He is Unique.
Besides, I am not talking about Torah or any other heavenly books.

A good summary, Thanx Boss

Thanks.

 

[Brain Damage]

Nooooooooo...

If it's proof of anything it's proof you worship God differently. You both worship the God of Abraham, you just disagree on the nature of that God, much the same way as Christianity and Judeaism.

We're not talking about the God of Abraham , we're talking about the God of Mohammad , the God who sent the angel Gabriel to Mohammad from which came the Koran.
It is only Mohammads word that it was the God of Abraham who sent the angel Gabriel.

Bosses OP is about his belief in the Koran , the Koran came into existance from Mohammad and not before .

Prior to Mohammad there was no Koran.

 

[MoonlessNight]

We're not talking about the God of Abraham , we're talking about the God of Mohammad , the God who sent the angel Gabriel to Mohammad from which came the Koran.
It is only Mohammads word that it was the God of Abraham who sent the angel Gabriel.

Bosses OP is about his belief in the Koran , the Koran came into existance from Mohammad and not before .

Prior to Mohammad there was no Koran.

I think I'll understand this question after you answer a couple of questions:

1. Do you believe that Christians and Jews worship the same God?

2. If so, do you think a Jew should believe that Christians and Jews worship the same God (After all, it's only Jesus' word that they worship the same God, and prior to Jesus there was no New Testament)?

 

[Brain Damage]

I think I'll understand this question after you answer a couple of questions:

1. Do you believe that Christians and Jews worship the same God?

2. If so, do you think a Jew should believe that Christians and Jews worship the same God (After all, it's only Jesus' word that they worship the same God, and prior to Jesus there was no New Testament)?

It is not my beliefs that are up for debate here , it is Bosses belief , he is the thread starter and has stated his belief in his OP.
If you are not willing to question him on his belief then you certainly shouldn't be questioning me on mine.
If you believe what Boss had to say about his God and his Koran as being true , then you should become a muslim .
If on the other hand you do not believe it , then you should debate with him the same way you would debate a christian if the OP was a christian belief .
In this entire thread no non christian has placed any doubt in Bosses claims , thus leaving the impression that you believe him on what he says.

 

[Arikay]

Thats because Bose was explaining his beliefs to help people understand what his beliefs were. I didn't see the point of this thread to debate them, but for us to understand them.

 

[MoonlessNight]

It is not my beliefs that are up for debate here , it is Bosses belief , he is the thread starter and has stated his belief in his OP.
If you are not willing to question him on his belief then you certainly shouldn't be questioning me on mine.
If you believe what Boss had to say about his God and his Koran as being true , then you should become a muslim .
If on the other hand you do not believe it , then you should debate with him the same way you would debate a christian if the OP was a christian belief .
In this entire thread no non christian has placed any doubt in Bosses claims , thus leaving the impression that you believe him on what he says.

I'm not trying to debate, just trying to understand your point. I'm not questioning the OP because he didn't say anything that really confused me. You did, hence I asked questions that I thought would let me understand your position.

 

[peaceful soul]

FInally, a non-religion bashing truthful summary of another Religion... This is a welcome change.

Far too often this and other statements are used out of place. Most debates are not bashing. It is just a matter of us thick headed debaters not willing to carefully examine and cross examine each others points. Then lots of frustration builds up. You know what happens next. Try to use the term when it actually applies to a situation.

No. God didn't creat anybody or anything in his immage because nobody is like him. He is Unique.
Besides, I am not talking about Torah or any other heavenly books.

This is another one of the cases where we need to understand what we are really saying. The Bible says that we were created in His image. If you don't believe in Bible, I can understand why you may oppose. To say that man could not be like God in some attributes would be going too far. God is unique, but that doesn't mean that we can't share some of His attributes and qualities. If you are not referring to any heavenly books, then how do you know that we are not in His image?

1. Do you believe that Christians and Jews worship the same God?

Conceptually, yes. Spritually, no. Only the Christians and Jews who accept the Bible in its entirety can truely believe in God and come to know Him. Any Jew or, for that matter, any one who rejects the claims of Christ in NT, do not worship the same God. The may think they do conceptually, but not spirtually. The same applies for Muslims and all other people. The line of demarcation that Jesus drew was in the spiritual realm. He declared that there are two kinds of spirits operating on us: spirit of worldliness and spirit of God aka Holy Spirit.

A counter argument can be stated as this: since I don't believe in your god, and my god says that we are the same, then it is true. You have a good claim; however, that does not still make it true. If your god is false, then what you subscribe to is also false. I hope you understand my simplistic analogy. The matter is really more complex.

2. If so, do you think a Jew should believe that Christians and Jews worship the same God ....

Traditionally, Jews have cared more about their culture and traditions, than they have about worshiping God as God has revealed to them. There will always be some Jews that will believe they are worshipping the same god: most likely only the saved ones.

... (After all, it's only Jesus' word that they worship the same God, and prior to Jesus there was no New Testament)?

I don't know see how the NT plays a role into what you are saying.

Boss . Well that's proof enough that we worship different Gods.

Nooooooooo...

If it's proof of anything it's proof you worship God differently. You both worship the God of Abraham, you just disagree on the nature of that God, much the same way as Christianity and Judeaism.

If you really think about it, only people of the same faith can worship one god differently, because only their religion can claim their god. Does that make sense? By definition one religion will contradict another. Therefore, how can diametrically opposed belief systems be the same? Therefore, how can their gods be the same? I hope I am making headway with this.

Brain Damage, I see where you are comming from. If the OP was just a statement, then none of us should respond. We all know that the person who made the statements was expecting to be engaged in dialog. It is inevitable that opposition is to come.

 

[InnerPhyre]

Sigh......I don't know why some people just can't seem to handle that Allah (I.E. "The God") is the God of Abraham (Ibrahim in arabic) and Muslims trace their roots back to him through Ishmael, whereas Jews are traced through Isaac. SAME GOD.....With vastly different beliefs about that God. Anyone who denies it simply hasn't done their homework. Allah is the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. Jews have different beliefs about God than Christians do. They don't believe he had to send His son to die for us. Does that mean that we worship a different God? Of course not. Some people just act like their entire universe will collapse if they accept the fact that Muslims and Christians and Jews follow the same God. I assure you, it won't.


Wow......I actually agree with Havoc. Someone see if it's snowing in hell


Let me ask you this: If you asked a Democrat and a Republican to describe George Bush to you, do you think you'd get the same answer? No. Does that mean that each one knows a DIFFERENT George Bush? NO! Only one opinion would truly be correct, but one party (whichever it would be) would have wrong beliefs about Bush.

 

[Brain Damage]

Sigh......I don't know why some people just can't seem to handle that Allah (I.E. "The God") is the God of Abraham (Ibrahim in arabic) and Muslims trace their roots back to him through Ishmael, whereas Jews are traced through Isaac. SAME GOD.....With vastly different beliefs about that God. Anyone who denies it simply hasn't done their homework. Allah is the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. Jews have different beliefs about God than Christians do. They don't believe he had to send His son to die for us. Does that mean that we worship a different God? Of course not. Some people just act like their entire universe will collapse if they accept the fact that Muslims and Christians and Jews follow the same God. I assure you, it won't.


Wow......I actually agree with Havoc. Someone see if it's snowing in hell


Let me ask you this: If you asked a Democrat and a Republican to describe George Bush to you, do you think you'd get the same answer? No. Does that mean that each one knows a DIFFERENT George Bush? NO! Only one opinion would truly be correct, but one party (whichever it would be) would have wrong beliefs about Bush.

If what you say is true then why aren't you a muslim ? After all , your suggesting that it was your God who sent forth the angel Gabriel to Mohammad , and Mohammad was the last of the great prophets.
In fact the Koran and Mohammad overides the bible and jesus in that Mohammad was the final messenger .

So you better become a muslim , wouldn't want to disappoint Allah ( God )