Somatic therapy

[Healing with Jesus]

You said that "One of my closest friends stopped wanting to be in touch last week as all this came to a head. Her own personal issues.. not great timing for me."

Is she into this stuff as well, or was this an unrelated issue that happened around the same time that you decided to leave the quack therapy?

An unrelated issue, nothing to do with the therapy or my choice to leave it. And I am reflecting that in the spiritual battleground, these things tend to be timed wisely - i.e. when I needed support the most.

 

[AlexB23]

An unrelated issue, nothing to do with the therapy or my choice to leave it. And I am reflecting that in the spiritual battleground, these things tend to be timed wisely - i.e. when I needed support the most.

It does seem like these events are timed in a way to allow you to grow spiritually in your journey with Jesus.

 

[Healing with Jesus]

It does seem like these events are timed in a way to allow you to grow spiritually in your journey with Jesus.

Also, I forgot to mention in my long post that the doctor-therapist sent me a follow-up message asking if I got her other message and offering her support, etc. I'm not sure what to say, I am praying for The Lord's guidance.

 

[AlexB23]

Also, I forgot to mention in my long post that the doctor-therapist sent me a follow-up message asking if I got her other message and offering her support, etc. I'm not sure what to say, I am praying for The Lord's guidance.

Turn down any somatic therapy, and see a Christian therapist who follows the DSM-4 or DSM-5, instead of quackery.

 

[com7fy8]

Could you give me some examples of what this process might look like? For example, if I am constantly jealous of other people and bitter about my negative life experiences, how do I get rid of that and get what is good?

Ok, I might be jealous that others are scheduled to preach where I go to church, but I am not asked to preach.

What helps me is I need to first not give in to that jealousy. I pray for God to make me able to resist it and not go along with it. Plus, I trust Jesus the Lord and Judge of all to manage if I am asked to teach or minister in this church. And submit for how God will guide me to do what He really wants. After all, if He really wants me to preach or teach here, He can easily open the doors.

And I find that God has me personally sharing with people, getting to know one another, and I can spot things to talk about with each person.

And there are people who will tell you not to compare yourself with anyone else, because you are God's unique masterpiece with unique things He wants to do with you.

And He will have us doing better than what others are doing, and what we might wish to do.

"I will not be brought under the power of any" > 1 Corinthians 6:12.

Do not let yourself be under the power of what you might want that someone else has.

"be content with such things as you have"(Hebrews 13:5)

I can be content with whatever I have in this church and with each person.

And even if no one listens to me, I can pray the way God has me pray, and my prayer can do more in a moment, than many worldly people have done in all their lifetimes combined.

Now, of course, if you are jealous because a genuinely Christian person is doing better than you, in marriage and other close relationships . . . find out what she does so you can do this, too.

And she could tell you she is not doing as great as it looks to you.

"'Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.'" (John 7:24)

And she and others doing well in relationships could say how God's word says,

"Do all things without complaining and disputing," (Philippians 2:14)

We must keep seeking God to keep us from arguing and complaining. If we give in to such bad stuff, this can help keep us weak so we get in trouble in relating; and, by being weak to argue and complain, our weakness can make us able to give in to other nasty and hurtful stuff!

So likewise, while we stay weak for wrong pleasures and self-seeking interests, we also are weak so we can suffer various emotional problems.

Weakness for pleasure can also be weakness for pain!!

And Hebrews 12:4-14 guarantees that our God and Father is committed to giving us real correction, of our character.

I can be very vain, as a man . . . vain about beauty. And this can keep me weak so I can have personality problems . . . while women can be vain about other things, then wonder why they keep having their emotional issues. We all need to seek God first for His things - - - trust Him to have us grow and mature in Jesus.

 

[timewerx]

The dark spirits have found ways to afflict me through believers, too. It's not always so straightforward as seeing a Christian therapist in my experience. I.e. the last time I was in therapy was with a male believer. I thought he was wise and discerning about the Word of God. However, the enemy found a way to use the problems in his personal life to afflict me. The counselor used the therapy sessions for himself, and told me all about his personal life. I was a nurturing, listening person for him, and he interwove his personal problems between my own reflections. I didn't intend to be that for him, at all; I was there to heal and deal with my issues. He read to me from his journal, told me about his marital issues and problems with his ex, and even provided some graphic descriptions about himself.

That horrible experience really upended my worldview because I trusted that man so much. I let him help me understand the Word of God, which is so precious to me, and so I was really confused for many months and could hardly even read my Bible or pray. Comparatively, this experience with the doctor-therapist has at least driven me into the Bible and prayer, and not away from it.

So all this is to say: the enemy can effectively use believers in the fold, too. It takes great discernment to choose a healthy therapist, and most of us when we really need therapy are not in a position to be so discerning, unfortunately...

It was with great hesitance that I started therapy at all. I had not since 3 years prior, when I ended it with the male believing counselor. It took a lot of trust to start therapy again, and I figured that she would be a safe person for me, because I had known her for so long. I was wrong, and honestly... times like these, it's hard to know who is safe to trust, at all.

I've had similar experiences as you did, the trauma and experience with other Christians.

Many Christians are completely oblivious to the spiritual reality as explained in Mark 4:19.

It makes them a "blind vessel" that evil spirits can use against other Christians. Being "ghosted" by other Christians is a very common form of attack. What used to be a friend, they stop being your friend.

Fortunately, the most resilient Christians will be able to resist the influences of the devil and they will remain at your side. If all your Christian friends and relatives have abandoned you that means all of them are likely to be the "blind" Christians or the "lukewarm" ones.

If you're giving off very heavy "negative energy", Christians weak in the spirit will avoid you they fear the spirit afflicting you might get to them too. Yet Jesus didn't teach us to avoid or run away from people under attack by evil spirits but to help them. We are meant to demolish strongholds of the devil, not avoid, run away from them out of fear of ruining our pleasant lives in this world.

I've had same experience as you Christians who tried to help me became under attack themselves and felt terrorized by the devil and therefore, severed connections with me.

I have been to many churches in the area, but have found things like: 1) deification of political figures, 2) being aligned with certain political movements which seem unGodly to me, 3) encouraging living in fear during certain types of crises, etc. It feels like a lot of propaganda, and not a lot of focus on Jesus / Holy Spirit / Heavenly Father.

Seems fairly common and I don't like it either. These churches can make your problems worse.

For example, if I am constantly jealous of other people and bitter about my negative life experiences, how do I get rid of that and get what is good?

Among my peers, I'm the least successful. I'm poor, have no friends, and experience all sorts of problems that poor people have.

However, I'm not bitter, nor jealous of even my rich peers. I made mistakes in my life, I did terrible things and felt like I'm reaping the consequences of my actions.

Yeah, it's something I'm pretty passionate about because my child and I almost died in labor and delivery. Mainstream medicine did both: caused our issues and saved our lives. So, it's not all good or all bad in my experience.

Even mainstream medicine has occultic influences that may not be as visible / known nowadays.
E.g., these symbols which are ever-present in Western medicine are both associated with different Greek gods.

I have similar sentiments with you about mainstream medicine and even medicine in general. I've been completely med-free after the Covid pandemic by switching over to a lifestyle of fitness and positive eating habits.

It might interest you that people who are hostile to mainstream medicine are more likely to be attacked by evil spirits.

One thing that helped me repel attacks by evil spirits is the lifestyle of daily intermittent fasting and combining it with exercise and timing the exercise before the first meal of the day. And finally meditating on the Lord every night before I slept. The Holy Spirit taught me about the lifestyle and I think it consecrates the body from uncleanliness.

When meditating on the Lord, set all your problems aside. Don't even think about your problems. The Lord already knows about your problems. Just think about Jesus as a child would.

I remained poor but no longer under attack by the devil. I'm more joyful now and less fearful no matter how bleak my situation is. Meditating about the Lord each night and getting comforted in dreams is an amazing thing.

 

[Healing with Jesus]

I've had similar experiences as you did, the trauma and experience with other Christians.

Many Christians are completely oblivious to the spiritual reality as explained in Mark 4:19.

It makes them a "blind vessel" that evil spirits can use against other Christians. Being "ghosted" by other Christians is a very common form of attack. What used to be a friend, they stop being your friend.

Fortunately, the most resilient Christians will be able to resist the influences of the devil and they will remain at your side. If all your Christian friends and relatives have abandoned you that means all of them are likely to be the "blind" Christians or the "lukewarm" ones.

If you're giving off very heavy "negative energy", Christians weak in the spirit will avoid you they fear the spirit afflicting you might get to them too. Yet Jesus didn't teach us to avoid or run away from people under attack by evil spirits but to help them. We are meant to demolish strongholds of the devil, not avoid, run away from them out of fear of ruining our pleasant lives in this world.

I've had same experience as you Christians who tried to help me became under attack themselves and felt terrorized by the devil and therefore, severed connections with me.


Seems fairly common and I don't like it either. These churches can make your problems worse.


Among my peers, I'm the least successful. I'm poor, have no friends, and experience all sorts of problems that poor people have.

However, I'm not bitter, nor jealous of even my rich peers. I made mistakes in my life, I did terrible things and felt like I'm reaping the consequences of my actions.


I have similar sentiments with you about mainstream medicine and even medicine in general. I've been completely med-free after the Covid pandemic by switching over to a lifestyle of fitness and positive eating habits.

It might interest you that people who are hostile to mainstream medicine are more likely to be attacked by evil spirits.

One thing that helped me repel attacks by evil spirits is the lifestyle of daily intermittent fasting and combining it with exercise and timing the exercise before the first meal of the day. And finally meditating on the Lord every night before I slept. The Holy Spirit taught me about the lifestyle and I think it consecrates the body from uncleanliness.

When meditating on the Lord, set all your problems aside. Don't even think about your problems. The Lord already knows about your problems. Just think about Jesus as a child would.

I remained poor but no longer under attack by the devil. I'm more joyful now and less fearful no matter how bleak my situation is. Meditating about the Lord each night and getting comforted in dre0ams is an amazing thing.

Just wanted to say thank you for your reply. I had read it this summer when I was going through a lot and I felt like you really understood what I was experiencing.