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2 Thessa 2:15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings c we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
AS the OP was about 'the sufficiency of Scripture' that's what we should be trying to steer the discussion back to. And I think the thousands of denominations indicates most clearly that the Scriptures alone are insufficient. If they were sufficient all of these groups claiming to follow Scripture alone would have never disagreed and never diverged. There are two possible scenarios here. First is that Scripture is sufficient but only one group actually follows Scripture like they all claim to. Which is to say Scripture is sufficient only under the rarest of circumstances. Second is that Scripture just isn't sufficient at all and the result is conflict over what Scripture means.
which is a position anyone is free to take, just dont claim it is biblical.
Some people who proclaimed the Bible as the perfect word of God spent little time reading it and remembered little of it.1) God is indeed alive today.
2) The Bible is the perfect word of God. If you don't understand it, don't criticize it.
And the Catholic church doesn't put their own interpretation of Scripture out there as truth? And they don't have a whole bunch of man-made traditions? Give me a break!!
nope, not even closeIt is biblical and has been proven so by many in this thread
it is not a matter of agreement, it is black or white. No where in scripture does it say that ONLY scripture is the rule of faith for a Christian.Not everyone has to agree on that but that doesn't change was has been proven
Some people who proclaimed the Bible as the perfect word of God spent little time reading it and remembered little of it.
If you would proclaim perfection in the Bible, be sure to use the right verses in the proper context.
Well, if we were to use the yardstick that opponents of Sola Scriptura use against it, we would have to say, 'no, sorry. It cannot be 'The' church of Christ' for the simple reason that many people interpret the history and Scripture dealing with the establishment of Christ's church differently.The Catholic church is 'The' church of Christ. It can trace its history right back to Peter.
I am truly sorry that, after all these threads and posts, people STILL do not know what Sola Scriptura means.Since the reformation 1,000's of denominations have sprouted up on rocky ground. Each preaching their own 'unique' gospel. If Sola Scriptura was true and real, all those 1,000's of denominations would be singing from the same hymn sheet
It doesn't tell us that there is another one. What is the only possible way to make sense of that?nope, not even close
it is not a matter of agreement, it is black or white. No where in scripture does it say that ONLY scripture is the rule of faith for a Christian.
oh, so we are to take the version you propose as the true meaning of SS. I'll let your fellow protestants discuss that with youI am truly sorry that, after all these threads and posts, people STILL do not know what Sola Scriptura means.
nope, not even close
it is not a matter of agreement, it is black or white. No where in scripture does it say that ONLY scripture is the rule of faith for a Christian.
QED
there is another one, but we still have to get to the scripture that say ONLY. Let's all stay focused!It doesn't tell us that there is another one
nice delflection. This thread is about SS. Anything else to offer?Nowhere in Scripture does it say that the Pope is the final arbiter of truth. In fact, there is no mention of either the Catholic church or the Pope (or bishops, cardinals, etc.) in the Bible. These are man-made concepts only.
nothing about SS here.Jesus said -- pay attention! -- “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6 There is no mention of anyone else (no Pope!)
nothing about SS hereActs 4:12, also, "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved
I've never said that. I had just hoped that people who do not know what Sola Scriptura is would come to understand what they are attacking, whether or not they agree with it.oh, so we are to take the version you propose as the true meaning of SS.
You say that there is another one. I know that. Bunches of them, in fact.there is another one, but we still have to get to the scripture that say ONLY. Let's all stay focused!
I am truly sorry that, after all these threads and posts, people STILL do not know what Sola Scriptura means.
stay on topic please. Provide a scripture that say "only" scriptureYou say that there is another one. I know that. Bunches of them, in fact.
What I asked, however, was whether there was another one referred to in Scripture. There isn't. If there is no other, then there is only one.
Claim: "The Scriptures are sufficient to function as a Rule of Faith."
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