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thereselittleflower

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I think really- yes it does--unless it is interupted unexpectedly. This where the black and white world does little good--because intentions matter here...is the intention to within a reasonable amount of time complete sex.

I think we are using two different definitions of sex . . .

I have always defined sex as the sexual act, intercourse as defined here:

Foreplay leads to sexual arousal, but is not sex itself.



You are using sex very loosely, and so we are talking past each other.
 
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ShannonMcCatholic

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Most women are not going to be able to engage in penis inside vagina sex without foreplay directly preceeding and so I am not using the term "sex" loosely--but rather in view of the totality of the act. If something results in sexual arousal then the intent needs to be (at least in resonable and forseeable future) to complete that act in penis inside vagina penetration.
 
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Sorry, we are closing the thread for review.

Edit - after deliberation by the team, the thread will remain closed
 
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Bumping this up so everyone sees it. This will remain closed, the cleanup and such would be pretty massive. If people feel the core topic is still not fully addressed then you are free to make a new thread and discuss it all in a mature and respectful manner. If people have issues with each other from this thread please don't take them to a new one and escalate. Just stick to the topic with respect for each other. That will ensure a continued discussion and not result in another closure.

And please make an effort to limit the debate to Catholics only as per our Forum guidelines.
 
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