Okay, this is my last post. I will ask the powers that be to close this dumb thread.
Like that Hurricane Katrina Army, John Wayne looking Dude said, " Let's not get stuck on stupid..." and we, we are seriously stuck on stupid.
This whole post is melodramatic - over the top exaggerations.
Look, here it is, Baby- I can not take you seriously. I just don't think you're intentions are pure. You just want to play games and try to entrap me in my own posts to make me look bad....and like, yeah, like that's going to happen....
WA- I'm really concerned for you because the prism you see things through... is, well, heterodox. You're views on hell, your obsession with punishment and justice, cloud your vision... It is a form of Jansenism.
His fundamental
error consists in disregarding the
supernatural order, for Jansenius as for
Baius, the
vision of God is the
necessary end of
human nature; hence it follows that all the primal endowments designated in
theology as
supernatural or preternatural, including exemption from
concupiscence, were simply man's due. This first assertion is fraught with grave consequences regarding the original fall, grace, and justification. As a result of
Adam's sin, our nature stripped of elements essential to its integrity, is radically corrupt and depraved. Mastered by
concupiscence, which in each of us properly constitutes
original sin,
the will is powerless to resist; it has become purely passive. It cannot escape the attraction of evil except it be aided by a movement of grace superior to and triumphant over the force of concupiscence. Our
soul, henceforth obedient to no motive save that of pleasure, is at the mercy of the delectation, earthly or heavenly, which for the time being attracts it with the greatest strength. At once inevitable and irresistible, this delectation, if it come from
heaven or from grace, leads man to virtue; if it come from nature or
concupiscence, it determines him to
sin. In the one case as in the other, the
will is fatally swept on by the preponderant impulse. The two delectations says Jansenius, are like the two arms of a balance, of which the one cannot rise unless the other be lowered and vice versa. Thus man irresistibly, although
voluntarily, does either
good or
evil, according as he is dominated by grace or by
concupiscence;
he never resists either the one or the other. In this system there is evidently no place for purely sufficient grace; on the other hand it is easy to discern the principles of the five condemned propositions.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Jansenius and Jansenism
BUT it sure does sound like what some argue in here that as tho some cannot resist what they are.
when you said you spank your children to give them a fear of God and hell... that is when you really lost me.
You make molehills into literal mountains...drama drama drama.
It says in scriptures that if we spare the rod - [which i also translated the term for rod to be small reed] which means a light punishment - a small pop in the bottom doesnt hurt... spare the rod we hate the child.
Purpose: To teach children that life is not fearless, we we must fear God. Not awe Him, the Hebrew word is literal fear like they feared an enemy attacking them....
Then you twist it to the above...
which is ugly and typical.
I only commented because i am fed up really
of you smearing my name all over the place.
When you speak about the immigration problem, welfare, Obama, the Muslims, gays, etc, you speak in the same fashion a bigot would.
I speak the truth.
I read the Quran....its written full of hate, and violence. UNTIL you read it and comprehend it, you cant talk.
I SAID PPL WHO ARE NOT POOR ARE ABUSING THE SYSTEM OR GETTING ON THE WELFARE SYSTEM INSTEAD OF WORKING.
You projected projected projected all over that thread too with your non reading nonsense.
I am not going another round of the gays which you are obsessed with.... tho i speak truth and not pandering to egos.
I dont like Obama and i do not like what he has done...
I hardly see you ever say anything about the gross things he has done.
But seems first in line to attack the pro life.
I wish nothing but the best for you and I pray God will give you some much needed perspective.
If that were true then you
wouldnt smear my character all over the forum and bear false witness.
IF you add to what i have said or purposefully detract from what i say - you intentionally are trying to harm my witness.
WHY you are allowed to - i dont know.
