SO THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE THAT TEACHES GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED? THEN WHO SHOULD WE BELIEVE

[Hammster]

Well that is not true. I have never posted anywhere or do I believe we are saved by the works of the law and have always stated otherwise. Please post a link and prove what you claim. If you cannot why do you pretend that what you are saying is true? I will leave that between you and God. I have already forgiven you.

God bless

Let’s try this.

Do you believe that it’s necessary to obey the fourth commandment?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I asked a question

You did and your question was already answered in post # 396 linked that is why I asked you if you read it.

 

[Hammster]

You did and your question was already answered in post # 396 that is why I asked you if you read it.

I did, but you aren’t as clear as you think.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Let’s try this. Do you believe that it’s necessary to obey the fourth commandment?

What do you think post # 396 linked says and all the supporting scriptures provided there? So I can understand where you are at? The scriptures provided seem very clear to me.

 

[Hammster]

What do you think post # 396 linked says and all the supporting scriptures provided there? So I can understand where you are at?

You are the OP. I’m trying to understand where you are at. So do you believe it’s necessary to obey the fourth commandment?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You are the OP. I’m trying to understand where you are at. So do you believe it’s necessary to obey the fourth commandment?

Ok brother let's work through this together slowly. Lets use the post which already answers your questions as an example here and I will ask you some simple questions to help the conversation. Post # 396 linked says...

It is God's WORD not mine that says God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) gives us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172 not me.

It is also God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20 and if we KNOWINGLY break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

It is also JESUS that says all those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God not me * MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Do you believe these scriptures?

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to UNKNOWINGLY break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day. Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now, <when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

God bless

All the scriptures are provided to answer these questions above.

1. Do God's 10 commandments give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken? YES/NO

2. Is God's 4th commandment one of God's 10 commandments? YES/NO

3. Did Jesus teach that if we knowingly follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God that we are not following God? YES/NO

4. Is Sunday worship a tradition and teaching of men that has lead many to ignore God's 4th commandment? YES/NO

Hope this helps

God bless.

 

[Hammster]

Ok brother let's work through this together slowly. Lets use the post which already answers your questions as an example here and I will ask you some simple questions to help the conversation. Post # 396 linked says...


All the scriptures are provided to answer these questions above.

1. Do God's 10 commandments give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken? YES/NO

2. Is God's 4th commandment one of God's 10 commandments? YES/NO

3. Did Jesus teach that if we knowingly follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God that we are not following God? YES/NO

4. Is Sunday worship a tradition and teaching of men that has lead many to ignore God's 4th commandment? YES/NO

Hope this helps

God bless.

You are the OP. What are your answers?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You are the OP. What are your answers?

Yep sorry I not playing your games brother. Your response above only shows you are not hear for a discussion. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and tradtions of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those are knowingly doing so are not following God. Who should we believe and follow God or man? I know who I believe and follow *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29 and only wish you all joy and peace and love in the holy ghost.

 

[Hammster]

Yep sorry I not playing your games brother. Your response above only shows you are not hear for a discussion. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and tradtions of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those are knowingly doing so are not following God. Who should we believe and follow God or man? I know who I believe and follow *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29 and only wish you all joy and peace and love in the holy ghost.

I’m not playing games. You are the OP. I’m asking questions related to what you have stated. Then YOU play games by not answering, but instead try to put me on the defensive. That’s bad form.

I’m giving you the opportunity to be clear about what you believe by asking simple, straightforward questions. The time it’s taken you to avoid answering could have used to answer.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I’m not playing games. You are the OP. I’m asking questions related to what you have stated. Then YOU play games by not answering, but instead try to put me on the defensive. That’s bad form. I’m giving you the opportunity to be clear about what you believe by asking simple, straightforward questions. The time it’s taken you to avoid answering could have used to answer.

How are you no playing games. Your question has already been directly answered with God's WORD in post # 396 linked. Then when trying to work through the scriptures that have already answered your question you refuse to continue the discussion and answer simple questions already given in the post through the scriptures. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear. Gods WORD is not my words. You are free to believe and do as you wish. I do not judge you. We all answer ONLY to God's WORD come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48.

 

[Hammster]

You are indeed playing games. Your question has already been directly answered with God's WORD in post # 396 linked. Then when trying to work through the scriptures that have already answered your question already provided in the above linked post you refuse to answer simple questions already shown in the post through the scriptures. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear. Gods WORD is not my words. You are free to believe and do as you wish. I do not judge you. We all answer ONLY to God's WORD come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48.

Don’t deliberately mischaracterize what’s happened. That’s shameful. I asked direct questions. You seem to be unwilling to give direct answers. Our conversation would be much further along if you’d stop playing games and just give direct answers. This is a discussion thread, not your classroom.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Don’t deliberately mischaracterize what’s happened. That’s shameful. I asked direct questions. You seem to be unwilling to give direct answers. Our conversation would be much further along if you’d stop playing games and just give direct answers. This is a discussion thread, not your classroom.

You have only been provided God's WORD. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that brake the commandments of God *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29; MATTHEW 15:3-9. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear. It takes two to have a discussion and it seems you are not interested in having one. You are free to believe and do as you wish and I only wish you all the best.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. We are sinners indeed but we have a Saviour for those that our Heavenly father have given ears to hear and eyes to see.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word of God)

 

[NBB]

You have only been provided God's WORD. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that brake the commandments of God *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29; MATTHEW 15:3-9. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear. It takes two to have a discussion and it seems you are not interested in having one. You are free to believe and do as you wish and I only wish you all the best.

But when someone ask for my personal opinion, i just try to be sincere and open up what i really think and not just repeat what i could have learned.
You better could be sincere and just say what you think in your heart/midn.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

But when someone ask for my personal opinion, i just try to be sincere and open up what i really think and not just repeat what i could have learned.

Hello brother NBB. Thanks for your thoughts. For me though our personal opinions are not God's WORD. Some opinions may be right and some will be wrong. I only point all to the Word of God because only God's WORD is truth and it is there that we all must look to find Jesus. Thanks for sharing your thoughts though. I appreciate them.

God bless.

 

[Hammster]

You have only been provided God's WORD. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that brake the commandments of God *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29; MATTHEW 15:3-9. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear. It takes two to have a discussion and it seems you are not interested in having one. You are free to believe and do as you wish and I only wish you all the best.

So should I believe that sabbath obedience is necessary? A yes or no is sufficient.

 

[Hammster]

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. We are sinners indeed but we have a Saviour for those that our Heavenly father have given ears to hear and eyes to see.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word of God)

Is it sin to not observe the Sabbath? It’s a yes or no question.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So should I believe that sabbath obedience is necessary? A yes or no is sufficient.

Do you believe that not murdering, lying, stealing, committing adultery, coveting, honoring your mother and father, using God's name in vain and worshipping other Gods is a requirement of Christians? Or in your view are Christians free to do these things.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Is it sin to not observe the Sabbath? It’s a yes or no question.

Is it a sin to murder, lie, steal, practice adultery, covet, not honor your mother and father, use God's name in vain and worship other Gods? If your answer is yes then you are correct because God's LAW gives us the knowledge of what sin is when broken in the NEW COVENANT *ROMAN 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4. God's 4th commandment is one of the 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *EXODUS 20:8-11. According to God's WORD if we knowingly break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So should I believe that sabbath obedience is necessary? A yes or no is sufficient.

Look forward to your response to the posts above. Also your welcome to address the OP here.

God bless