No crime to investigate.
I imagine all of Trumps employees who are sitting in jail now would disagree. But don't let facts get in the way.
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No crime to investigate.
Barr did not lie when he properly understood the question to pertain to members of Mueller’s team and answered the question. He did not lie by providing an answer pertaining to Mueller’s team and only about Mueller’s team.
That's because in your perspective everyone involved with bringing the truth forward regarding the whole Russia hoax are from the Trump team, therefore they are all liars, cowards and criminals etc.
Whereas from my perspective...the democrats making all the noise...they are willing to destroy anyone from getting to the truth as it will be a disaster for the democrats. They do not want Barr to investigate the genesis of the Mueller investigation at all. So right on schedule, Barr becomes the target to be stopped now.
It amazes me that the democrats don't give any credit to their nation for voting in Trump as their duly elected POTUS...and they will again in 2020.
They comprehend it full well. That is why the simple-minded amongst them (Including the Great One himself) can so readily believe that there is a plot afoot to pull their savior from office and replace him with Hillary.It amazes me that Trump supporters don't seem to comprehend that while Trump won the election by the rules of the Electoral College, that the citizens of the US voted for a different candidate, by a 3 million person margin.
They comprehend it full well. That is why the simple-minded amongst them (Including the Great One himself) can so readily believe that there is a plot afoot to pull their savior from office and replace him with Hillary.
I'm not sure why anyone would believe this, given that Barr also said he thought a member of Mueller's team wrote the memo rather the Mueller himself.
A special counsel investigation for one....
Personally, I've led many teams. On each and every team I would classify myself as a member of the team as well as the leader of the team. It seems absurd to claim otherwise.
As far as his answer regarding "Mueller's team", his answer certainly isn't "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". It may be "the technical truth", but his answer is dishonest, at best. Especially, in light of the fact that he later states that he believed the Mueller letter was" probably written by someone on Mueller's team". It's an excuse one way when he wants to frame an answer to one question, and an excuse the other way when he wants to frame an answer to a different question.
So what? None of that directs or guides how to properly and rationally understand the question posed to Barr. The question was about member's of Mueller's team and not about Mueller. Nothing you have said above changes this fact about the phrase.
If you believe Barr’s remark, ”I think it was written by one of his staff people,” supports the notion Barr lied, you are very mistaken.
First, the obvious. Barr said he “thinks” he knows who wrote it, he isn’t stating or asserting such a thought as a fact. Neither is he expressing that he believes what he is “thinking” is factual. Hence, his remark about the letter is entirely consistent with his prior commentary, since he isn’t claiming to “know” or claiming as a fact that members of Mueller’s team wrote the letter.
Second, the letter is signed by Mueller. The letter is not signed by a staff person. Hence, Barr carefully phrased his remark as to what he “thinks,” since, after all, Mueller signed the letter and since the letter bares his (Mueller’s) signature, Mueller may have in fact composed the letter.
Or maybe Mueller made a draft of points he wanted made in a letter and provided his draft to a staff person to compose a letter incorporating the points Mueller wanted. Mueller then reviewed the letter for approval and signed it.
Either way, you’ve cited to nothing that demonstrates Barr lied.
“Nexus to a pending or contemplated official proceeding.” Some obstruction statutes require a grand jury or judicial proceeding.
I'm sure it varies from state to state... How about federal?
Also, Mueller's grand jury was still in session even after he submitted his report. AFAIK, they're still at work.
My reply was speaking exclusively about federal law and some federal obstruction of justice statutes, specifically those referenced by Mueller in his report.
As I point out, including major 3rd party candidates, it's 10,000,000, but somehow Trump supporters have convinced themselves that "the American people gave Trump a mandate".It amazes me that Trump supporters don't seem to comprehend that while Trump won the election by the rules of the Electoral College, that the citizens of the US voted for a different candidate, by a 3 million person margin.
It amazes me that Trump supporters don't seem to comprehend that while Trump won the election by the rules of the Electoral College, that the citizens of the US voted for a different candidate, by a 3 million person margin.
I didnt vote for donny and i understand the fact you state.
With that said, both candidates knew the election would come down to a half dozen states (as it typically does) and both campaigned accordingly. Trump beat clinton in the key states and that is why he won.
In the future, i would like to see a hybrid between electoral college and then being divided in each state, based on the percentage of votes each candidate gets.
Until the rules are changed and candidates campaign based on the rules, the whole popular vote thing rings hollow with me.
Understood. Trump ran a better campaign based on the rules of the election.
That being said, when his supporters talk about "how the American people chose Trump", it's a more than a bit disingenuous.
Understood. Trump ran a better campaign based on the rules of the election.
That being said, when his supporters talk about "how the American people chose Trump", it's a more than a bit disingenuous.
Ah. Then the fact that a grand jury was in session at the time the alleged obstruction took place should cover things.
Unless all of the conduct preceded the existence of the grand jury, I don't see why that matters.Some of the conduct Mueller scrutinized, for purposes of investigating possible obstruction justice, preceded the existence of the grand jury.