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rainbowshope said:
Ok, I might as well ask. How many of you smoke? I'm not afraid to admit it. I know as a Christian I shouldn't, but I am not perfect. I have tried and tried to quit but I can't! :help:

i smoke, i have tried to quit but i love smoking, its not that you HAVE quit because you are a Christian, it is bad for your body and health and our bodies are the church of Christ and we should take care of it, sometimes i get judged because i smoke and im a Christian but i still feel the love of God and the Holy Spirit even with all my human form imperfections
 
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spirit_of_purity said:
i smoke, i have tried to quit but i love smoking, its not that you HAVE quit because you are a Christian, it is bad for your body and health and our bodies are the church of Christ and we should take care of it, sometimes i get judged because i smoke and im a Christian but i still feel the love of God and the Holy Spirit even with all my human form imperfections


I have been judged also by christians and non christians for smoking.
I feel ashamed that I smoke.

BUT, I have decided I am going to quit on Monday. This time I am determined. I'm not doing it for myself, (if that was the case I wouldn't quit)
I'm doing it for my family and because my hubbys mom died from smoking when he was 13 and it hurts him to see me smoke.
I bought some nicotene gum last night to get me started.
I woke up with panic attacks this morning from the thought of failing again.
I'm 29 and been smoking since I was 16.
 
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LookingtotheEast said:
Hello,


This is my first post and I figured the best way to use it is on a subject I know about.


I quit smoking 16 days ago, I have not smoke 660 cigarettes and have saved 2 days of my life. Too many, cold turkey conjures up visions of torturous pain, suffering and general drudgery. In fact, it is easier to stop smoking using the cold turkey method than by using any other technique. Cold turkey induces less suffering and creates a shorter period of withdrawal. Most important, cold turkey is the approach by which the smoker has the best chance of success.

Smokers must recognize that they are drug addicts. Nicotine is a powerfully addictive drug. Once the smoker has smoked for a fairly long time, the body requires maintenance of a certain level of nicotine in the bloodstream. If this level is not maintained, the smoker will experience varying degrees of drug withdrawal. The lower the level, the greater the intensity. As long as any nicotine remains in the bloodstream the body will keep craving its full complement. Once the smoker quits, the nicotine level will eventually drop to zero after 3 days and all physical withdrawal will cease. Cravings for an occasional cigarette may continue, but this is due to past psychological conditioning and not to a physical dependence. Cutting down on cigarettes or use of nicotine replacement strategies throws the smoker into a chronic state of drug withdrawal. As soon as the smoker fails to reach the minimum requirement of nicotine, the body starts demanding it. As long as there is any nicotine in the bloodstream, the body will demand its old requirement.

Smoking just one or two a day or wearing a patch which is gradually reducing the amount of nicotine being delivered will result in the smoker not achieving the minimum required level, creating a chronic state of peak drug withdrawal. This state will continue throughout the rest of the smoker's life unless one of two steps is taken to rectify it. First, the smoker can stop delivering nicotine altogether. Nicotine will be metabolized or totally excreted from the body and the withdrawal will stop forever. Or, the smoker can return to the old level of consumptions accomplishing nothing. Therefore, cold turkey is the method of choice. Once the smoker stops, withdrawal will end within two weeks. If you smoke, we can help you over this crucial period of time. Once it is past, you can rest assured that you will never need to smoke again.


Also check out W(x3)whyquit dot com, its the best site on the net as far as I am concerned...remember Educate yourself!:clap:

(can't post links because I don't have enough posts)



CONGRATS TO YOU!!!

I've heard switching to patches or gum may not be the best thing, but everyone is different. I think if I use the gum for awhile, it will help the habit of holding a cigarette and it will be easier...........
 
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I don't smoke, never have and never will. It's awful in this country! Everyone does it!

I went off at this woman who was smoking at the table next to us in a restaurant... my mum was pregnant at the time, and I was kinda wound up anyways... just told her to put it out before she killed us all and an unborn baby. She put it out. But it was rude of me. I'm sorry.

What gets me is... smokers drain our national health service, and I don't get an operation I need. unfair? I think so.

How does it drain our National Health Service?? What about all the people who drink, do drugs and over eat??
 
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I quit smoking cold turkey one day in the earl 80's.
I had been praying about it for a long time I hated the stench of my clothes my hair.
I coughed my head off.
In the middle of the night I would cough and have to get up and smoke a cigarette to stop coughing.
I know I did not quit on my own even though I said I quit cold turkey.
I have never felt better about myself since I haven't smoked.
Been long time and I am not sorry I quit.
 
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rainbowshope said:
I have been judged also by christians and non christians for smoking.
I feel ashamed that I smoke.

BUT, I have decided I am going to quit on Monday. This time I am determined. I'm not doing it for myself, (if that was the case I wouldn't quit)
I'm doing it for my family and because my hubbys mom died from smoking when he was 13 and it hurts him to see me smoke.
I bought some nicotene gum last night to get me started.
I woke up with panic attacks this morning from the thought of failing again.
I'm 29 and been smoking since I was 16.



Take it one day at a time and consider every day you get through the day without smoking is one day closer to your goal of quitting for good.
Morning was the hardest for me.
I Needed my cigarette and coffee.
 
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rainbowshope said:
How does it drain our National Health Service?? What about all the people who drink, do drugs and over eat??

They do as well, but smoking is the biggest strain on the NHS, officially :( I've been screwed out of the same operation twice because waiting lists for surgery are so long, a lot of the people on those waiting lists are there due to smoking, over eating, drug abuse and alchohol abuse.

It's a pretty well known fact that the NHS is pushed to breaking point, largely because it's dealing with people who need to kick habits, get exercise and eat well. They need to learn to help themselves. I know it's hard, I've had to kick a few habits in the past, addictions in fact. But when my health is concerned... that comes first.

I just don't understand how a smoker can claim any right to an operation over someone that has had an accident. Smokers know that smoking KILLS... an accident can happen to anyone, it's not within their control.

My friend lay for 4 hours before an ambulance came with a broken back (shattered vertibrae) and no movement in his lower body at all. I am almost certain that someone was taken to hopsital during those 4 hours due to an illness or condition due to over-eating, over-drinking, drug abuse... but the most likely would be smoking.
 
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Ughhh, I feel so stupid! This afternoon I got over excited and decided I would go ahead and quit today. So I crushed my cigs and threw everything away. A few hours later I tried the nicotine gum and I got sick in the bathroom which made me so upset I started crying. Then I ran out and bought a pack of cigs.
I came home feeling lousy because hubby had earlier said he was so proud of me. So I confessed and told him and started crying again. He said he's proud that I tried and tomorrow we would go to the store to see if we could exchange the gum for something else. Maybe I will try the patches...

I feel so awful!!!!!
 
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They do as well, but smoking is the biggest strain on the NHS, officially :( I've been screwed out of the same operation twice because waiting lists for surgery are so long, a lot of the people on those waiting lists are there due to smoking, over eating, drug abuse and alchohol abuse.

It's a pretty well known fact that the NHS is pushed to breaking point, largely because it's dealing with people who need to kick habits, get exercise and eat well. They need to learn to help themselves. I know it's hard, I've had to kick a few habits in the past, addictions in fact. But when my health is concerned... that comes first.

I just don't understand how a smoker can claim any right to an operation over someone that has had an accident. Smokers know that smoking KILLS... an accident can happen to anyone, it's not within their control.

My friend lay for 4 hours before an ambulance came with a broken back (shattered vertibrae) and no movement in his lower body at all. I am almost certain that someone was taken to hopsital during those 4 hours due to an illness or condition due to over-eating, over-drinking, drug abuse... but the most likely would be smoking.


I'm not claiming any right to have an operation over someone who doesn't smoke. Most smokers DO NOT WANT to smoke, they just don't know how to quit! And people judging them doesn't help.
Everyone has some kind of problem. Even caffeine is a drug...........
 
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Don't buy the patches. I advise the books I posted links for two pages ago. The deal is this: you sit and listen to, or read this guy's book for for hours. He shows you where the key is that get's you grabbing the next cigarette, then convinces you so hard that you don't want another cigarette. Apparently he has 90% success. And all this without patches (that don't help so much because you don't get over the addiction to the gestures of smoking).


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/076071200X/qid=1083561809/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8982529-5674329?v=glance&s=books

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0572028512/qid=1083561809/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-8982529-5674329?v=glance&s=books

Be sure to read the reviews.

I should be getting the book soon, I ordered it even though I am not a smoker, so when I'll get it, I'll be able to tell you all more about it.
 
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