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KittiK said:
Been there Larry!
I am very glad for you...and only keep track if you find it needed. I keep track, but my husband does not. He has chosen to break away and not look back. Both work...and it's a decision only you can make.
Good luck and we're praying for you!!

Kit :D

KittiK, :wave:

It sounds like both you and your husband are working together to kick the habit. This is great. Keep us informed of your progress. Watch the calories.
Keep in mind, there is a light at the end of the tunnel . . . and it's NOT the train. It will take some time for the body to adjust to the loss of nicotine - - but the urges will decrease. And, one final word of encouragement - - the Lord is here to help through it all (Philippians 4:13)!

Desiring the very best for you.
. . . Denny
 
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Celeste, :wave:

I am so glad you and your husband made the lifestyle changes that put drinking and smoking in the past, and kept your marriage intact. Are you currently cancer free?

My father was a drinker and a smoker. The excessive use of alcohol and tobacco put him at a 38x greater risk for cancer of the larynx that someone who neither drinks nor smokes. It should not a big surprise to hear that he became one of the statistics. He was put on antibiotics several times to combat the hoarseness before the cancer was discovered. He smoked and drank as long as he could. He would have a radiation treatment, and then step outside to smoke.

Most lung cancers appear in the upper lobe of the right lung. My mom's was on the right bronchus close to the carina - - where the airway branches and goes to each lung. It was inoperable. The chemo she was given zapped her health quickly. She never recovered. It was an ugly, ugly way to die. She and dad smoked for about 45 years.

Mom and dad are now buried in a small, rural, family cemetary in the hills of West Virginia. Neither had any serious health problems before the cancer claimed them. I pray that others may be persuaded to avoid following in their footsteps. :prayer:

. . . Denny
Denny, Just now got back to you all . yes I am cancer FREE. I have this checked every now and then. You know, when I found out I had this and had to have this surgery.(The surgery was done in 1989 so it has been awhile.) I cried and cried and ask God why me? Well indeed, God didn't tell me to smoke. So when I thought about it I said to myself I will pray for the best of it. And take what I have coming. It is all my own fault . So I did and through it all I could still see all the blessings I received. Celeste ..ps also I can see that I am not ready to go home yet--that God has plans for me for today and tomorrow if He chooses! thanks
 
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Celeste said:
Denny, Just now got back to you all . yes I am cancer FREE. I have this checked every now and then. You know, when I found out I had this and had to have this surgery.(The surgery was done in 1989 so it has been awhile.) I cried and cried and ask God why me? Well indeed, God didn't tell me to smoke. So when I thought about it I said to myself I will pray for the best of it. And take what I have coming. It is all my own fault . So I did and through it all I could still see all the blessings I received. Celeste ..ps also I can see that I am not ready to go home yet--that God has plans for me for today and tomorrow if He chooses! thanks

Celeste,

Great. I thought so, but just wanted to make sure. Don't beat yourself up too badly. Many people started smoking years ago before all the medical evidence about the adverse health effects was available to the public. This is what happened to my parents. They just couldn't find the willpower to kick the habit later in life.

Today's younger generation refuses to see where smoking is leading them - -to spending a lot of money for the "privilege" to die prematurely - - and to die a hard death. My philosophy is simply this: death is inevitable, so why speed up the process unnecessarily?

I am so glad that God spared your life. Your story needed to be shared. Thanks for sharing it. Let's pray :prayer: that it can touch the lives of some . . . who so desperately need to consider what you've been through.

. . . Denny
 
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Mr.Pious said:
Really stupid question but have you tryed nicotine gum? I have noticed quite a few of my teachers chew that during the day, and they don't seem to be going threw any ill side effects.
I tried nicorrete gum. I found I could just chew away. WRONG!!!! The more you chew the more of that nicorrete gum gets in you.And I went back to smoking cause at the time cigs were cheaper than the gum.(this is when it first came out.) then oboy did I really puff the heck outta the cigs.
 
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Great, Larry. This is really good news. :clap: This is encouraging. I wouldn't worry about keeping track. Just focus on continuing your progress. Live each day for the Lord. Each day without smoke is another day that your body can repair itself. Within a few months you should notice a significant improvement during aerobic exercises. Be sure to watch your caloric intake. Most people have a tendency to pick up weight after quitting.

Give God the thanks and glory. I am continually humbled by His goodness and patience with me.

May God continue to bless you.

. . . Denny
Thanks larry.

Denny thanks. tell me I suppose you really miss your Mom and Dad? In a case such as yours I would. My dad smoked too. and he died at the early age of 52. He died the day he was to have open heart surgery. I really miss my Dad. He was one of my hero's He was a good man and a christian man.
 
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Celeste said:
Thanks larry.

Denny thanks. tell me I suppose you really miss your Mom and Dad? In a case such as yours I would. My dad smoked too. and he died at the early age of 52. He died the day he was to have open heart surgery. I really miss my Dad. He was one of my hero's He was a good man and a christian man.

Celeste,

Sadly, neither of my parents were Christians. That is the hardest part of all. I would have liked to have had more time with them. But smoking cut our time short. My dad was a very private man. He didn't share many of his inner feelings. Mom was more open. I am amazed at her inner strength. She fought off death while I drove from Texas to West Virginia to see her one last time. The 10 hours I spent with her just before her death were very ugly. It was hard to watch. This is one part of the picture the tobacco industry doesn't reveal when they "peddle disease, disability, and death" (quote from Koop - The Memoirs of America's Family Doctor by C. Everett Koop, M.D., the former Surgeon General.

. . . Denny
 
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I often wonder if that is why they give the soldiers free cig. and free beer. Wonder how long it will be til they give them (unawares) the illegal dope?

Anyway Denny, that is sad for you I know. God tries so hard to reach people and they still don't listen. But they have one thing good that came from their marriage. YOU! And they would be proud of you. Your relationship with God is so important, as you know. God bless you Denny.Celeste
 
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Celeste said:
I often wonder if that is why they give the soldiers free cig. and free beer. Wonder how long it will be til they give them (unawares) the illegal dope?

Anyway Denny, that is sad for you I know. God tries so hard to reach people and they still don't listen. But they have one thing good that came from their marriage. YOU! And they would be proud of you. Your relationship with God is so important, as you know. God bless you Denny.Celeste

Thank you, Celeste. Being a Christian brings a mixture of joy and sorrow - - sheer joy for the goodness and mercy of God . . . but sadness as one considers the words of the Lord in Matt. 7:13-14.

Like all parents are with their children, I just could not seem to connect with mom and dad in some respects. But, I tried to do what I could for them, when I could. For instance, I took a week's vacation when dad first came home from surgery after having his larynx (voice box) removed. Later, when we found out the that cancer had spread, I took another week's vacation to spend with him and mom. And, I was there when the doctor gave mom the results of her tests. He plainly told her there was no cure for her lung cancer. Her eyes didn't even cloud up . . . I think she already expected the worse. Mom moved in with her mother. My wife and I both spent a week staying with them after a couple months of chemo. Mom was terribly weak . . . and very depressed. It was not a good week. When Mom was put in the hospital, I spent another week with her. Following that, my oldest son, who is a R.N., spent a week with her. Then, my wife went to spent a week with her. During that period is when I got the call to "come quickly." It was a very, very, very, long 1100 mile drive.

When I consider the "statistics" that tell us just how harmful tobacco is to our health, I have no reason to doubt the numbers in any way. I saw first-hand how tobacco affected two of those "statistics," and can only imagine the pain and suffering that so many others have suffered - - some suffering themselves from tobacco use - - others watching their loved ones and friends suffer. My goal is to help SOME avoid the consequences of such a deadly addiction. I say "SOME," because I learned a long time ago that I could not save the world, but could only hope to influence a small part of it in a positive way.

You have a good heart. I find this very encouraging. :clap:

My study on tobacco smoke can be viewed online at http://studywell.org/pdf/TobaccoSmoke.pdf

. . . Denny
 
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I am sad about your situation Denny.. But I also see what came from a naggative situation and how Gods hand was in it. He has brought you to the forefront to do what you are doing. He always promises he would make something good come from a bad situation to those whom He loves! Isn't that something, how great He is! How He keeps His word? How He does all things. Then, He goes to the cross and ... He Arises! what a God. I am encouraged when I come across people like you. I see Gods hand on your shoulder guiding you . Thank you God, and thank you Denny! Celeste Blessed Easter!
 
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Celeste said:
I am sad about your situation Denny.. But I also see what came from a naggative situation and how Gods hand was in it. He has brought you to the forefront to do what you are doing. He always promises he would make something good come from a bad situation to those whom He loves! Isn't that something, how great He is! How He keeps His word? How He does all things. Then, He goes to the cross and ... He Arises! what a God. I am encouraged when I come across people like you. I see Gods hand on your shoulder guiding you . Thank you God, and thank you Denny! Celeste Blessed Easter!

Celeste,

"But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Cor. 15:57).

"He who glories, let him glory in the LORD" (1 Cor. 1:31).

I continue to be encouraged and strengthened by your gentle spirit. :)

I finished reading a really good book just a few weeks ago. I'll share some of it with you and our readers. The writer helps us see just how serious the problem with smoking really is. He ought to know. He was a former Surgeon General of the United States.

From the book Koop - - The Memoirs of America's Family Doctor by C. Everett Koop, M.D.

"As Surgeon General, I took as my mission nothing less than improving the health of the entire nation. I started with smoking. 'A thousand people will stop smoking today. Their funerals will be held sometime during the next three or four days.'

That is how I would begin my lecture on smoking. It gets people’s attention. Why have Americans been so complacent about tobacco, about nicotine addiction? If any other substance, legal or illegal, were killing half a million people a year, the public would be up in arms, demanding action from Congress.

. . . But the government, especially the federal government, has also hurt the effort against smoking and tobacco. Those federal taxes on tobacco, though increased, have not kept up with inflation. More serious, federal politicians have excluded tobacco and tobacco products from certain regulatory activities covering hazardous or toxic substances, and from most packaging and labeling restrictions except for the Surgeon General’s warning. Tobacco is considered to be neither a food nor a drug nor a cosmetic: therefore it is a unique substance, virtually outside regulatory control.

I did not assume the position of Surgeon General with the clear intention of being such an active opponent of tobacco, but after I studied the incontrovertible truths about the health hazards of smoking, and then became at first dumbfounded and then plainly furious at the tobacco industry for attempting to obfuscate and trivialize this extraordinarily important public health information, I couldn’t help but become an outspoken adversary.

How could the tobacco industry dare to dismiss as unfounded and unproven the absolutely clear connection between smoking and heart disease: between smoking and death from stroke; between smoking and cancer of the lung, the mouth, the esophagus, and the stomach; and between smoking and a dozen or more serious, debilitating, exhausting, expensive, and humiliating diseases?

How could it do that? The answer was – it just did. The tobacco industry is accountable to no one. It flaunts its ability to buy its way into the marketplace of ideas and pollute it with its false and deadly information.

Tobacco has been associated not only with disease and death, but also with money. That is why it has so long enjoyed special treatment. Tobacco was the cash crop that financed much of the American Revolution – those Virginia planters fetched a greater return for tobacco leaves that did the hardy New Englanders for their pumpkins. And Congress has been held hostage ever since."

In His service, :bow:
. . . Denny
 
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And.......... looks like the ex- attorney is sooo right, with his fight against a deadly weapon such as tobacco. We need more people who are dependable in what they say, and do for this nation! But we, as individuals need to take some responsibility for ourselves too. and we need to say No! by whatever loving needs we can (tough love) to let our children know.
It's mind boggleing what this world can throw at a person to get them addicted to what seems like a harmless thing ,but is so deadly and so addictive. Thanks for the infomation from the #1 doc Koop on this. Maybe it will change someones mind about this horrible death people suffer from tobacco.
It also causes people to have more heart attacks and suffer with heart desease. thanks Denny, in trying to eradicate this terrible sin against ones own body.Gods blesssings to you and yours. Celeste
 
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I very much doubt that the OPer needs reminders of how unhealthy smoking is...she knows that. So pictures of filthy lungs aren't likely to help.

Also - and I'll probably cop some flak for this - I doubt her christianity will help, either. I've known many, many people who have desparately wanted to give up, both christian and non-christian. Despite the fact that the christians claim that god will, in some way, help them (give them strength, or whatever), their failure rate seems identical to non-christians.

Bottom line is that giving up smoking is HARD. Many people don't know just how hard it is, so my sympathies go to the OPer. However, you must remember that it CAN be done. All over the world, many, many people who were just as addicted as you, who found it just as hard as you, HAVE given up. That doesn't mean it'll be easy - but you CAN do it.

There's been much talk of patches, gum, hypnosis, help groups, and so forth. All of those have worked for some people at different times. I think it's just a question of finding the right one for YOU, right NOW. ONE of them (or some other method) will work...it's just a question of finding the right one. Try them all.

Just one thing...I know it's hard, but you have to try your best to NOT let repeated failures get you down. If you try patches, and fail, then try gum, and fail, then try a help group, and fail...it's kinda hard to get up for trying yet another method with any optimism. But you have to. Treat each new attempt to give up as the first - forget previous failures and resolve that THIS will be the one! Sooner or later, you WILL succeed.

All the best with it. I'd say "I hope you can do it..." but I don't. I KNOW you can do it, and you will, eventually.

Incidentally, I've been a pack a day man for twenty years, so I know how much you want/need them. Oh, and I have no intention of giving up...I like it :)
 
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Krystina661 said:
I've been smoking for 7 years now, and want to quit (someday) but for now I like it to much, and I'm not ready.


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To each his own I suppose. I was a 45 year smoker. and I had lung cancer. and oh yes, I liked it to well too. but, I knew I had better or die! So I cold turkeyed it. and Ask God to help and He did!! it was really amazing that I with Gods help overcame.I get goose bumps just thinking about it. They are happy goosebumps though. :pink:
 
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Celeste said:
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To each his own I suppose. I was a 45 year smoker. and I had lung cancer. and oh yes, I liked it to well too. but, I knew I had better or die! So I cold turkeyed it. and Ask God to help and He did!! it was really amazing that I with Gods help overcame.I get goose bumps just thinking about it. They are happy goosebumps though. :pink:
Congratulations on giving up...but I would congratulate YOU, not god. YOU did it, not him. All over the world, people give up withOUT asking him, and others ask him for help and DON"T give up...it's in YOU, not some deity.
 
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Krystina661 said:
I've been smoking for 7 years now, and want to quit (someday) but for now I like it to much, and I'm not ready.

Krystina661, :wave:

I have to admit, when I was your age I didn't give cancer or cardiovascular disease a second thought. In your youth you tend to just focus on enjoying life. You don't consider what may befall you as you age, so just enjoy the moment, right? Let's think about tobacco smoke. What is it about tobacco smoke that you like so much? Surely, it is not the health benefits. And, surely, it is not the price. Is it the smell of smoke on your clothing and hair that you have grown to like? Is it the smell of smoke in your automobile that you like? How about in your home? Or, have you grown to like tobacco smoke in other ways? You like the feel that smoking gives you because your body is being satisfied with the nicotine that it craves. That feeling you like usually lasts for a couple of hours. Then, you find yourself longing for more nicotine. So, you smoke again . . . and again . . . and again. Meanwhile, hours go by . . . then days. Days turn into months . . . and months turn into years. Before you know it, you will reach a point in your life where the health effects of growing old are becoming more and more apparent to you. You are now concerned with your persistent, hacking cough and shortness of breath. Inwardly, you regret all the years that you have spent damaging your body and forfeiting your health. When you think about all the money you spent over the years on tobacco products, you feel even sicker. You wish you had quit smoking when you were younger - - perhaps, at about age 21 when you fully realized just how bad smoking really is for you. You dread going to see the doctor and getting the report from the tests about the mass that is now growing in your lungs. All of your family is concerned as well . . . you can see it in their eyes. Someday you will indeed quit smoking for good. Your funeral will be a few days later.

Is this scenario fiction . . . or fact? The longer your smoking continues, the greater likelihood for you to become another one of the many "statistics." The longer you smoke, the longer the nicotine addiction continues and the harder it will be to break it.

I desire a better life for you than the one that has been portrayed. Ultimately, that decision is yours. With God's help you can overcome this addiction (Philippians 4:13).

In His service, :bow:
. . . Denny
 
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The Bellman said:
Congratulations on giving up...but I would congratulate YOU, not god. YOU did it, not him. All over the world, people give up withOUT asking him, and others ask him for help and DON"T give up...it's in YOU, not some deity.

Bellman,

This is your second post that you have used a lower case "g" when referring to God. Do I detect a humanistic viewpoint here?

People who "kick the habit" should be congratulated. :clap: That determination has to first come from within the smoker. It is an extra boost for the Christian to know that God is there to support them and help them through, not only this struggle, but all the struggles they will face in life. Jesus said, "Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age" (Matt. 28:20).

. . . Denny
 
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Krystina661, :wave:

I have to admit, when I was your age I didn't give cancer or cardiovascular disease a second thought. In your youth you tend to just focus on enjoying life. You don't consider what may befall you as you age, so just enjoy the moment, right? Let's think about tobacco smoke. What is it about tobacco smoke that you like so much? Surely, it is not the health benefits. And, surely, it is not the price. Is it the smell of smoke on your clothing and hair that you have grown to like? Is it the smell of smoke in your automobile that you like? How about in your home? Or, have you grown to like tobacco smoke in other ways? You like the feel that smoking gives you because your body is being satisfied with the nicotine that it craves. That feeling you like usually lasts for a couple of hours. Then, you find yourself longing for more nicotine. So, you smoke again . . . and again . . . and again. Meanwhile, hours go by . . . then days. Days turn into months . . . and months turn into years. Before you know it, you will reach a point in your life where the health effects of growing old are becoming more and more apparent to you. You are now concerned with your persistent, hacking cough and shortness of breath. Inwardly, you regret all the years that you have spent damaging your body and forfeiting your health. When you think about all the money you spent over the years on tobacco products, you feel even sicker. You wish you had quit smoking when you were younger - - perhaps, at about age 21 when you fully realized just how bad smoking really is for you. You dread going to see the doctor and getting the report from the tests about the mass that is now growing in your lungs. All of your family is concerned as well . . . you can see it in their eyes. Someday you will indeed quit smoking for good. Your funeral will be a few days later.

Is this scenario fiction . . . or fact? The longer your smoking continues, the greater likelihood for you to become another one of the many "statistics." The longer you smoke, the longer the nicotine addiction continues and the harder it will be to break it.

I desire a better life for you than the one that has been portrayed. Ultimately, that decision is yours. With God's help you can overcome this addiction (Philippians 4:13).

In His service, :bow:
. . . Denny

Actually, I give it much thought.. and worry a lot about my health. Hell, I worry about having the strength to make it to 30. I already have shortness of breath from smoking. As far as only having concern for enjoying my life? I have too much going on to even consider that. Trust me, I wish that was all I had to worry about. I've been through more things (you wouldn't even believe) that most don't even experience in a lifetime. So I don't need the lecture on how I'm to young to have any real worries or I'm to young to understand the health disadvantages from smoking. Please don't lecture me about smoking because of my age.
 
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