Sitting while Black

[CaDan]

Producing your ID when asked by a police officer is not bowing and scraping. It happens every day in every city.

The second sentence does not provide a warrant for the claim made in the first sentence.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Producing your ID when asked by a police officer is not bowing and scraping. It happens every day in every city.

Refusal to do so is still not a crime.

 

[AirPo]

The claim is sections are left out where nothing is happening. That's the claim. It was highly edited though

Much ado about ...

 

[AirPo]

What we do know is that the entire incident was the result of noncompliance with a police officer.

There is no truth to this statement at all.

 

[MachZer0]

Refusal to do so is still not a crime.

The next time you see a cop with flashing lights in your rear view mirror, refuse to stop on the basis that you don't believe you did anything wrong. Let us know how it works out

 

[AirPo]

The next time you see a cop with flashing lights in your rear view mirror, refuse to stop on the basis that you don't believe you did anything wrong. Let us know how it works out

Totally different situation.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The next time you see a cop with flashing lights in your rear view mirror, refuse to stop on the basis that you don't believe you did anything wrong. Let us know how it works out

You do realize that there are different laws in place for being stopped in a vehicle and being stopped on foot, don't you?

Evidently not.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The funny thing is that some of our friends on the Right support what happened here, and still want us to believe that not only is government tyranny coming, but that they'll be the ones fighting against it.

 

[MachZer0]

You do realize that there are different laws in place for being stopped in a vehicle and being stopped on foot, don't you?

Evidently not.

You do realize that police can stop you and ask for your ID as well, don't you

 

[CaDan]

You do realize that police can stop you and ask for your ID as well, don't you

Not in Minnesota. We've been over this.

 

[MachZer0]

Not in Minnesota. We've been over this.

The police chief addressed it. He disagreed with you

 

[AirPo]

The police chief addressed it. He disagreed with you

Of course there is the possibility the the police chief is wrong.

 

[MachZer0]

Of course there is the possibility the the police chief is wrong.

Being part of the job function of his subordinates, it's not likely

 

[AirPo]

Being part of the job function of his subordinates, it's not likely

Being that people are often found innocent, it's likely that he could be wrong.

 

[MachZer0]

Being that people are often found innocent, it's likely that he could be wrong.

They can only be found innocent after they've been identified

 

[AirPo]

They can only be found innocent after they've been identified

Incorrectly in some cases. Hence it's possible for police, chief and all, to be wrong.

 

[bhsmte]

They can only be found innocent after they've been identified

If I am not mistaken, they can also only be forced to show ID, when probable cause is present.

With the heinous crime of loitering and no cop witnessing the incident, I don't believe a call from a security guard that clearly didn't know the local laws himself, qualifies as probable cause.

 

[MachZer0]

If I am not mistaken, they can also only be forced to show ID, when probable cause is present.

With the heinous crime of loitering and no cop witnessing the incident, I don't believe a call from a security guard that clearly didn't know the local laws himself, qualifies as probable cause.

It most certainly does. Had this perp simply showed his ID and explained his situation, he would have been on his way.

 

[CaDan]

It most certainly does. Had this perp simply showed his ID and explained his situation, he would have been on his way.

Mr. Lollie was not a "perp".

 

[CaDan]

The police chief addressed it. He disagreed with you

Please supply a citation or link to the statement by Chief Smith to that effect.

I look forward to your prompt reply.