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S Walch said:22 All of this happened to fulfill the Lord's message through his prophet:
S Walch said:Luke 1:26-38
26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a village in Galilee,
27 to a virgin named Mary. She was engaged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of King David.
28Gabriel appeared to her and said, "Greetings, favored woman! The Lord is with you!"
29 Confused and disturbed, Mary tried to think what the angel could mean.
30 "Don't be frightened, Mary," the angel told her, "for God has decided to bless you! 31You will become pregnant and have a son, and you are to name him Jesus.
32 He will be very great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David.
33 And he will reign over Israel forever; his Kingdom will never end!"
34 Mary asked the angel, "But how can I have a baby? I am a virgin."
35 The angel replied, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the baby born to you will be holy, and he will be called the Son of God.
36 What's more, your relative Elizabeth has become pregnant in her old age! People used to say she was barren, but she's already in her sixth month.
37 For nothing is impossible with God."
38 Mary responded, "I am the Lord's servant, and I am willing to accept whatever he wants. May everything you have said come true." And then the angel left.
Green Man said:What proof do you have for the existance of a soul?
Bookofknowledge said:My belief. What is it that keeps the life alive?
Bookofknowledge said:Prophet?
Correct me if I am wrong, The Most High (as per your believe 'Father') helped so Jesus could come into this being?
Bookofknowledge said:Prophet?
Correct me if I am wrong, The Most High (as per your believe 'Father') helped so Jesus could come into this being?
Green Man said:Your belief does not constitute proof.Dogs and cats are alive.Plants are alive.Viruses and bacteria are alive.Are you implying all things that live have a soul?
Bookofknowledge said:I simply asked you a question - what keeps the life alive? I didn't say every alive thing has a soul yet, did I? If you don't know the answer then simply say "I don't know" instead of questioning my believethat too you don't "believe" because you didn't asnwer me when I asked "Do you believe in any thing?"
Green Man said:Isn't Allah all powerful?Couldn't he exist in two places at once?
Bookofknowledge said:Does he have to exist in two places at once to show He is All Powerful?
Allah says He is ONE not two in two different places,
112:1
Say: He is Allah the One and Only;
112:2
Allah is the Self-Sufficient (independent of all, while all are dependent on Him);
112:3
He begets not, nor is He begotten;
112:4
And there is none comparable to Him.
Green Man said:I believe there is life on other planets.I believe the US will win the war on terrorism.I believe establishing a Palestinian state will be disasterous.I believe in a lot of things.
Green Man said:I do not believe in a magic man in the sky that blinked and "poof" here we are.
Green Man said:What keeps life alive?A healthy properly functioning body.
Bookofknowledge said:Whatever you have listed as your believe - Is it believe or Is it something you want or expect based on your desire?
This is what you're believe not the above statement you made.
If it is the healthy properly functioning body then why does the body decompose? Why does an infant grows in a unified manner which distinguish between a child, teen, adult and old... If it is a healthy body when does a healthy person dies for no reason?
Green Man said:This is a simple yes or no question.Please don't answer my question by twisting things around just to come back with a question of your own. I did not say he was two in two different places.
Green Man said:Can he,or can't he exist in two places simultaneously?Your implication is that he can not.If that is the case ,then he is not all powerful,but has limits as to what he is capable of,and therefore can not be considered God.
Green Man said:Those things listed above are beliefs based on observation and a little common sense.
I do not acknowledge even the possibility of any type of supernatural entity.The very idea strikes me as ludicrous.
Growing old and dying are an inescapable consequence of life.No one escapes death.They never have,and they never will.BTW,healthy people do not die for no reason.
Bookofknowledge said:Isn't Allah all powerful?Couldn't he exist in two places at once?
You asked me the following question when I asked a question s walsh not even you? so do not expect me and ask me not to ask question while you continue to ask question for a question.
Don't take my implication so soon, I asked you a question Does he have to exist in two places? Let me ask few more question, do you mean physically He has to be in two different places? Is this something one of your expectations? Who is the servent, the Creator or the one who has been created by the Creator?
Bookofknowledge said:what you listed previously was indeed observation which can be acheive and expected results based on the information you currently have, that's not believe.
It would seem,you are attempting to get me to admit to blind religious faith.Am I incorrect in this assessment?
Who is the creator of such an inescapable consequence of life? How can such an inescapable consequence come into being on its own - perfect without any flaw![]()
There is no creator.
visit a doctor he will be able to explain something from unidentified cause of deaths happen in history and current.
Green Man said:Your refusal to address my question tells me you are unsure of your position.I have answered your questions .Now please do me the courtesy of answering mine.The questions you ask in this last paragraph are a thinly veiled attempt at evasion.
Bookofknowledge said:
You are the one who concluded that I am unsure of my position; I didn?t refuse to address the question. You?re the one who doesn?t believe in Creation by Creator, I am trying to understand what good it will do If I answer to the question directly ? The most expected response from you would be that you may simply reject my answer or put another question.
The first step for you is to question ? Is there a Creator or No?
If you do not acknowledge the first step then what good will it do to you when you ask others can The Creator do this and that, Can He be here and there?
Also, if you think me asking you questions are evasion then clear the evasions by answering the questions, If I do not understand or ask the same question again kindly reply it. After all two persons can move a stone more quickly then one person banging his head on the stone. Help me out, would you?
Do you believe that there is a Creator?
I believe in the Creator, Who is One and Only, The All Knowing, The Wise, The Magnificent.
The answer you are seeking in one of the names and attributes of Allah.
Green Man said:My personal beliefs or lack thereof is irrelevant to this conversation.Let's get back to the original question.Is Allah capable of being in two places at once?
Green Man said:My personal beliefs or lack thereof is irrelevant to this conversation.Let's get back to the original question.Is Allah capable of being in two places at once?