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Rajni

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Whats the point in not sinning if Jesus forgives everything ?
What's the point in sinning at all, either way?
It isn't much fun; unless I've been doing it wrong.
 
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What's the point in sinning at all, either way?
It isn't much fun; unless I've been doing it wrong.
Im just curious.

What are the ten commandments for, when everybody who believes in jesus, is saved anyway ?
 
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Im just curious.

What are the ten commandments for, when everybody who believes in jesus, is saved anyway ?
Because life is so much better when God is loved with all the heart, soul, and mind, and when we love others as ourselves.
 
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Whats the point in not sinning if Jesus forgives everything ?
Maybe we become more conscious, maybe if we are met with love instead of punishment we think more about our actions and what we do wrong, maybe that was the idea. Punishment fears where love educates.
 
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Whats the point in not sinning if Jesus forgives everything ?

I suggest a review of Romans 6. It starts with this and gets better:

Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?
 
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Im just curious.

What are the ten commandments for, when everybody who believes in jesus, is saved anyway ?

Without keeping God's commandments nobody can be saved. And if somebody is saved his life must be very pure because in the resurrection they will be called sons of God. And they must be equal to angels. And nobody who is son of God is sinner.
 
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Without keeping God's commandments nobody can be saved. And if somebody is saved his life must be very pure because in the resurrection they will be called sons of God. And they must be equal to angels. And nobody who is son of God is sinner.
Lets say you believe in Jesus Christ but you broke the Ten Commandments will you go to hell then ?
 
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Whats the point in not sinning if Jesus forgives everything ?

What's the point of asking for forgiveness for committing a sin if you're planning to continue to commit that sin? At that point, it is just about wanting to be free of the consequences of your actions, not about having a change of heart. Repentance is not just about saying you're sorry, but rather it is about changing your thinking and turning from walking in your ways to walking in God's ways.
 
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Lets say you believe in Jesus Christ but you broke the Ten Commandments will you go to hell then ?

You must confess to a priest. Then fast and then receive Holy Commuion. If it is not your last sin before death there is time to repent.
 
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Lets say you believe in Jesus Christ but you broke the Ten Commandments will you go to hell then ?

If you believe in Jesus you will repent, stop breaking them and repent again if you fall. Do that sincerely for the rest of our lives, and we'll not go to hell.

For myself, I find we get better over the years if we merely try/are sincere in our belief.
 
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You must confess to a priest. Then fast and then receive Holy Commuion. If it is not your last sin before death there is time to repent.

FWIW, the priest/fast, communion is not necessary, it's all covered with the blood of the lamb/Jesus if we confess/repent. Just confess to God and ask forgiveness. I know it's different with some, but it's not arguable with me so for the sake of not going OT, it's JMO, and I know others share it.

As to holding a sin against us and sending us tho Hell because we couldn't get to a priest to get forgiveness, or even that we didn't get a chance to ask God forgiveness for a sin before we died, when we led an otherwise Godly life, I don't think so.

Get forgiveness always, but God is fair enough to allow for extenuating circumstance.
 
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FWIW, the priest/fast, communion is not necessary, it's all covered with the blood of the lamb/Jesus if we confess/repent. Just confess to God and ask forgiveness. I know it's different with some, but it's not arguable with me so for the sake of not going OT, it's JMO, and I know others share it.

As to holding a sin against us and sending us tho Hell because we couldn't get to a priest to get forgiveness, or even that we didn't get a chance to ask God forgiveness for a sin before we died, when we led an otherwise Godly life, I don't think so.

Get forgiveness always, but God is fair enough to allow for extenuating circumstance.
How does god handle murders ? Do Murders go to hell or can they be saved too ?
 
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How does god handle murders ? Do Murders go to hell or can they be saved too ?

Good question, but to my knowledge, there is only one unforgivable sin, and that isn't it. As long as they repent, and ask forgiveness, they are good to go with God.
 
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We need to stop looking at sins as demerits or as single black marks on our permanent records.
Yes sin is "missing the mark" but that just means we fail to think, act or react according to God's character.
So here is an analogy: let's say you're a guy and meet a girl and really want to possibly marry her one day. Let's say she gives you a list of things she likes and things she does not like and then says as long as you follow this list, you're good but mess up and I'm out of here. I mean what kind of a relationship would that be? An impossible standard is set up between the two and failure is imminent. Guaranteed at some point. Would it not be better to just relate to them and learn what they love and do it because it makes them happy rather than the coldness of following a list of rules?

Its the same with knowing God through Yeshua. That is what it is all about. Not just knowing Him, but being so enthralled that you seek to act like Him.
So if we keep on sinning, that is, acting contrary to God's divine love then why would He forgive those sins? If one doesn't really care how He feels but just continue to live their own way then perhaps they really don't know God at all.

We should all look carefully at these things.

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To sin is to transgress the law. The law are there to guide you to prosperous abundant life. God lays out life/death blessings/curses, and act that you choose life so that you and your seed may live.

But if you want to hit rock bottom before coming in, you can do that as well.

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
 
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So if we keep on sinning, that is, acting contrary to God's divine love then why would He forgive those sins?

I'd guess there is some type of line there and only God can choose where it is. It's true, Christ says to forgive 7x70 times, basically meaning endlessly, and that could pertain the person you say "keeps on sinning" If Christ teaches it, I have to assume God holds to that as well and will forgive often, even very often.

I do however agree, why would he forgive after a certain point, but what that point is, I'm not sure. It may well be if we choose a lifestyle of sin, IOW, and for instance, if we plan weekly on going out an getting drunk.doing drugs, and picking up "dates", as opposed to not planning on sinning but it happening still. Both are sin, but one shows no plans/attempts to change our lifestyle, while the other does.

Or in short, if we are sincere or not.

Just some thoughts on the matter.
 
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