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Nathan Poe

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Godzman said:
actually in biblical student will now that line is not in the earliest manuscripts, so it is most likely put in there by editorilizing
IOW, somebody tampered with the Bible? Someone way back when put words into Christ's mouth?

You realize that by implying this, you've opened up a can o' worms in the credibility department; the Bible is no longer divinely inspired if it can be "editorialized" so easily...
 
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Godzman said:
actually in biblical student will now that line is not in the earliest manuscripts, so it is most likely put in there by editorilizing
Hmmmmm (scratching head)...I wonder what else has been put in by "editorializing". How do you know what has and what has not???
 
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Nathan Poe said:
IOW, somebody tampered with the Bible? Someone way back when put words into Christ's mouth?

You realize that by implying this, you've opened up a can o' worms in the credibility department; the Bible is no longer divinely inspired if it can be "editorialized" so easily...
lol, the earliest manuscripts are the most reliable, the claim of infallibility only applies to the orignal texts.
 
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Godzman said:
he could have said both :rolleyes:
No, he couldn't have. Then one wouldn't be 'last'.

"It is finished." (John 19:30)

"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me!" (Mark 15:34-5 and Matthew 27:46)

"Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." (Luke 23:46)


Apologize for it all you wish, it's called a "contradiction".


 
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Nathan Poe

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Godzman said:
lol, the earliest manuscripts are the most reliable, the claim of infallibility only applies to the orignal texts.
And where are those "original texts" now? Why are they not copied? How come Christians today are using a corrupted version of the "Word of God?"
 
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Nathan Poe said:
IOW, somebody tampered with the Bible? Someone way back when put words into Christ's mouth?

You realize that by implying this, you've opened up a can o' worms in the credibility department; the Bible is no longer divinely inspired if it can be "editorialized" so easily...
someone will claim that it was divinely editorialised. you mark my words.
 
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