Sin is Sin All Sins Are Equal.

[Texas Lynn]

Ah, that old cop out. Go on, chapter and verse where such a distinction is made?

Whats that? No such distinction exists in the Bible?

You mean its an arbitrary classification allowing you to break Levitical laws with apparent impugnity, while condemning others for exactly the same thing?

I see.

As we always see, the claim of taking the Bible literally is always highly selective.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Funny I didnt say anything about the destruction of sodam and gomorrah- what i did say was that the term sodomite and sodomy stems from the place (linguistically) and doesnt mean the same in english as it meant biblically.

Feel free though to waver off topic and concentrate on anything other than what was said and even on other people instead of discussion. This thread is filled with that and Yes i understand that is what is required because otherwise it would mean truth would have to be faced.

 

[Texas Lynn]

In a 6-month long daily sexual diary, gay men were averaging somewhere around 110 different sex partners per year. Source: Corey, L. and Holmes, K.K., " Sexual transmission of Hepatitis A in homosexual men," New England Journal of Medicine, 1980; Vol. 302, pp. 435-38.

First of all, a sexual diary doesn't exactly qualify as scientific. Second of all, and what's even funnier, is this.....
If the "observation" lasted over a period of six months, how in the H--L can they tell you what gay men average in a YEAR?

This is a joke. Come back when you have something serious to offer. Until then....

So we've established that gay men like straight men exagerrate their conquests and if in doing so they can tittilate some staid research associates so much the better.

 

[Texas Lynn]

To get that many partners, I imagine you'd "bar" hop or whatever..

Apparently sort of like Ed Subitzsky's science fiction story of the interplanetary species with 27 genders where they have to go to 27 separate singles bars to get laid.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Funny I didnt say anything about the destruction of sodam and gomorrah- what i did say was that the term sodomite and sodomy stems from the place (linguistically) and doesnt mean the same in english as it meant biblically.

Since it is not a "biblical" term your argument is invalid.

 

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[Akathist]

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[Angel4Truth]

As opposed to those who 'twist" scripture to use it as a weapon against those they hate.

Anyone who spends the time trying to steer people toward the truth of Gods word certainly does not hate. Hate would be to allow people to drown in their sins without trying to help or warn them. Its much easier to be silent and allow those falling into a pit to fall than to be falsely accused of so many things for caring for someone elses eternal soul.

 

[LightHorseman]

And yet so many people who CLAIM to be helping SOUND awfully as though they hate the people they are "helping"

 

[Angel4Truth]

Teenagers think their parents hate them too for trying to help, nurture and protect them also. Sometimes love is very tough.

 

[LightHorseman]

Teenagers think their parents hate them too for trying to help, nurture and protect them also. Sometimes love is very tough.

Parents however, have the experience and knowledge to know when their teenagers are engaged in dangerous, risk taking or inappropriate activity, at least greatly more than the average teenager does.

You, however, have absolutely no more experience or knowledge to tell a fellow adult that what they are doing puts them in risk of Hell. That is between the individual and God. YOU are not privy to God's decision making process. YOU are entitled to interpret the Bible for yourself, and anyone who asks your opinion. You are NOT entitled to tell anyone else that their interpretation of it is wrong, and that your interpretation is superior, which is what you are doing when you claim that you are "trying to steer people toward the truth of Gods word "

To use your teenager analogy, you have the right to tell your own teenagers what to do, you have no right to tell anyone else how to discipline their teenagers.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Parents however, have the experience and knowledge to know when their teenagers are engaged in dangerous, risk taking or inappropriate activity, at least greatly more than the average teenager does.

You, however, have absolutely no more experience or knowledge to tell a fellow adult that what they are doing puts them in risk of Hell. That is between the individual and God. YOU are not privy to God's decision making process. YOU are entitled to interpret the Bible for yourself, and anyone who asks your opinion. You are NOT entitled to tell anyone else that their interpretation of it is wrong, and that your interpretation is superior, which is what you are doing when you claim that you are "trying to steer people toward the truth of Gods word "

To use your teenager analogy, you have the right to tell your own teenagers what to do, you have no right to tell anyone else how to discipline their teenagers.

A mature christian grounded in Gods word has experience and knowledge as well to pass on. I am charged as a disciple of Christ to spread the truth. you can certainly refuse to listen or pay attention if you dont like it or care about what I share. I care about what i am charged from God to do and it doesnt matter to me what people call me - say about me - whatever they want to do. They will not make me stop doing so and will not shut me up. You can choose to ignore me anytime you like or you can trash me - that choice is yours but it bears on me in no way whatever since its God and not you or anyone else that I answer to.

Lastly I havent told anyone how to discipline their teenagers.

 

[KCKID]

Anyone who spends the time trying to steer people toward the truth of Gods word certainly does not hate. Hate would be to allow people to drown in their sins without trying to help or warn them. Its much easier to be silent and allow those falling into a pit to fall than to be falsely accused of so many things for caring for someone elses eternal soul.

Angel ...why do you and others persist in passing judgment on those whose sexual orientation is not of their choosing? The main issue of homosexuality, i.e. one's sexual attraction to another of the same gender, is NOWHERE mentioned in the Bible. You and others only THINK that it's mentioned. This form of 'brainwashing' has resulted in untold damage to many (young) men and women, some of whom have resorted to suicide as their only escape from the immense 'guilt' imposed on them . This 'hate propoganda' HAS GOT TO STOP whether a 'love for neighbor' slant is applied to the message or not. It's WRONG!

Question: Do you even know what it is that we're debating here? Do you know, precisely, what a homosexual is?

 

[Angel4Truth]

KCID i would apreciate it if you would stop coming into threads after me and making the conversation personal. Thanks. I am not the topic here.

 

[KCKID]

KCID i would apreciate it if you would stop coming into threads after me and making the conversation personal. Thanks. I am not the topic here.

Ohh . . .please stop with the paranoia complex. I respond to posts, not people. I asked a pertinent question and I believe that it's deserving of an appropriate response. Do you realize that your 'loving' Christian message of eternal hell-fire for homosexuals has (possibly) caused people to suicide? Do you know what a homosexual is? Do you know the issue/s being debated?

 

[Angel4Truth]

KCKid , you will now be placed on ignore - so for future reference anymore posts you direct at me personally or otherwise will not be seen and im letting you know so you understand why you will no longer be being responded to by me. Thank you.

 

[KCKID]

KCKid , you will now be placed on ignore - so for future reference anymore posts you direct at me personally or otherwise will not be seen and im letting you know so you understand why you will no longer be being responded to by me. Thank you.

Darn!

 

[Floatingaxe]

Ohh . . .please stop with the paranoia complex. I respond to posts, not people. I asked a pertinent question and I believe that it's deserving of an appropriate response. Do you realize that your 'loving' Christian message of eternal hell-fire for homosexuals has (possibly) caused people to suicide? Do you know what a homosexual is? Do you know the issue/s being debated?

Suicide? That's their problem for being weak and sinful like everyone else outside of Christ. The truth is, they've gotten there too soon.

 

[LightHorseman]

Suicide? That's their problem for being weak and sinful like everyone else outside of Christ. The truth is, they've gotten there too soon.

I feel the Christian compassion and love