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Signs of the Times

Discussion in 'Traditional Adventists' started by Gary K, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. Gary K

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    In Revelation we find the following prophecy concerning the end times.
    What is going on today with respect to this prophecy? Here's an article from Brietbart about exactly this scenario.
    The rest of this article can be found here.

    It appears the Democrats are actively fighting against anything that would stop a social credit scoring system from being implemented that could be used to rate people within the financial system according to their religious and political beliefs.

    Anyone surprised at this invasion of liberty by the Democrats?
     
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    The whole world / society, and most all religious people have for decades been being prepared and made willing and told to "submit" to the government (as if Scriptural) while all along being led by the beast or those subject to it.
     
  3. Uber Genius

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    I don't think it is necessary to make the distinction "Democrats." Didn't the Republicans take the lead on waterboarding, FISA, government growth under Reagan, GHW Bush and GW Bush? While I grant the Brietbart piece above most likely comes with speech codes and voting history, and is scary, growth of Federal control scares me, and that is a Republican and a Democratic problem.
     
  4. Gary K

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    I agree that the swamp is made up of both parties.

    In this particular instance though it is the Democrats, as a block, voting down Constititutional protections including the integration of political and religious beliefs in credit reports which is no different than China's social credit scoring system that the Chinese government uses to punish those who have religious and political beliefs the government does not like.

    There seems to me to be a direct link in this vote to Biblical prophecy.

    I do agree with you that overall growth of federal government regulation and power are scary. Those things just aren't directly referenced in Biblical prophecy as this last move is.
     
  5. eleos1954

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    The mark of the beast is going to manifest itself through a union of church and state ... so could certainly be a step in that direction ... possibly could cause start persecution of people of faith with an eventual revolt by people overall ... with the end result being people eventually turning back to a "religious system" thinking that by doing so will "fix" things when in actuality would open the door for anti-christ (the first beast) to be accepted by most.

    Revelation 13

    3One of the heads of the beast appeared to be mortally wounded. But the mortal wound was healed, and the whole world marveled and followed the beast.

    marveled and followed .... most will accept and follow the beast ... it's going to be a HUGE deception.

    The first beast is a religious power ... the second beast is a state power.

    11Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. This beast had two horns like a lamb, but spoke like a dragon. 12And this beast (state power) exercised all the authority of the first beast (religious power) and caused the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose mortal wound had been healed.13And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people. 14Because of the signs it (second beast) was given to perform on behalf of the first beast (religious power), it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast (religious power) that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived. 15The second beast (state power) was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast (religious power), so that the image (religious power) could speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed.

    In the very end ... it's about worship ... worship through a great deception that many/most will accept and follow.

    With that being said ... no doubt the United States will eventually accept socialism (already is) and that leads to communism (with a dictator - ie Hitler, Mao etc.) and communism historically leads to persecution (from the "state") and execution in masses, especially in regard to people of faith.

    "will not be able to buy or sell" ... who controls currency in all countries? the state

    once the world moves into a totally cashless world (everything being bought & sold electronically) ... and it will ... already proceeding to that end ... then ... or shortly afterwards the onset stage is set for anti-christ (the first beast)

    so .. yeah ... could certainly be a step in that direction.
     
  6. Gary K

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    I agree with a lot of what you said, but will disagree on some fine details that I find important.

    Most nations do not control their own currencies. Take the US for example. Congress ceded complete control of our currency to the Federal Reserve System when they voted to form it. Thus, the Fed through it's entire monoloply on interest rates and money printing, has been the cause of the boom and bust cycles ever since by their manipulation of interest rates and the fractional reserve banking policies they have enforced.

    So, the Fed is owned and controlled by private bankers like the Rothschilds, the Morgans, the Rockefellers, etc.... The same goes with the vast majority of central banks around the world. What's more the bankers that started the Fed here in the US also started the CFR, and the great majority of presidential cabinet positions have been filled by CFR members. And the CFR is a huge proponent of a one world government. In fact the CFR founders/bankers were the ones that influenced Woodrow Wilson to push for the League of Nations. In fact they wrote his proposals for it. Those same bankers funded the Russian Revolution with a $20 million loan during WW1.

    Woodrow Wilson was so closely controlled by them that his handler lived in the White House, and his statement about Edward House, also known as Colonel House even though he had no military background, was that he, Wilson, didn't know where he stopped and House began. That House was a full-bore socialist can be easily verified. He wrote a book titled Philip Dru: Administrator. It's still available as a free download from the Gutenberg Project. The book outlines what a socialist government looks like through the eyes of a socialist/marxist.

    The CFR was also behind the creation of the United Nations and push for more UN control over the US on a daily basis. There is too much evidence to put into one post, but our sovereignty as a nation is pretty much gone and the goal is to break up the US into 5 different administrative areas controlled by the UN. ( Read UN agenda 2030 documentation.) The liberty that we have had since our founding fathers created this nation has made it a target because the elites such as the big bankers, CFR members, etc... hate liberty. They want total control over the population which would be done through the UN and they have been working to that end since hefore the end of the 19th century. That means both currency and political control, i.e. government, would not be done by individual nations, but by the UN. World government hostile to Christianity as a whole and completely socialist in nature.

    If we look at what the deep state and the Democrats are up to politically we can see this push to crush the soveriegnty of the US. Will they succeed? And we can see the willingness of the Catholic church to cooperate with socialism by the statements and the attitudes of the current pope and many of his cardinals.
     
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  7. Gary K

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    This entire thread is about signs of the times, not a single sign of the times and as such I will be posting a lot of events that point towards how close we are to the end of time and Jesus' soon return.

    A convicted transgender pedophile is being released from prison since he now identifies as a woman and that somehow makes him no longer a threat to reoffend. This guy molested kids as young as 1 year olds. And this is justice?

    We are clearly in the days when evil is good and good is evil.

    The rest of this excerpt can be found here.
     
  8. eleos1954

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    Interesting post ... really is hard to say how everything plays out and what will be the catalysts that are set off over time to make it so ... however ... we do know .... ultimately it ends up being about worship ... with the main power being (the first beast) with the second beast (governmental power - perhaps global at that time) giving it's "authority" to the first beast (doing it's "bidding" so to speak).

    According to the Scriptures, the mark will be enforced by imposing economic sanctions on anyone unwilling to accept the mark:

    And that no man might buy nor sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast or the number of his name…and his number is six hundred, three score and six (Revelation 13:17-18).

    seems to me the first beast will rise to power first ... or could be the two powers rise somewhat simultaneously ... point is ... when that time comes (economic "take over") happens ... both powers are in place ... in control.

    The first beast (religious power) is marveled at ... followed (GREAT signs & wonders) .... that is .... it is a great deception and with the second beast (state power) enforcing the first beasts "power" (ie does the "bidding" of the first beast in regard to worship).

    1 Thessalonians 2

    9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, 12in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.

    and the "signs and wonders along with delusion" will effect the whole world ... (professed believers and non-believers alike)

    so ... until that time ... we have this going on ...

    Matthew 24:6

    4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

    and this ....

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    And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

    Revelation 14:12

    Here is the patience of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

    and so it is .... ;o) AMEN
     
  9. Gary K

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    Like I said before, I agree with you on what the mark of the beast will be. As an SDA I agree with Ellen White's prophecies concerning the end times. The US in prophecy starts out as a nation with two foundations to it's power, i.e., the separation of church and state. The resulting liberty created the greatest nation on earth and now all of that is under severe attack. Will even any trace of our Constitution remain for long? I wonder.
     
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    What other signs of the times do we see in the world today that indicate time just cannot last too much longer?

    How about Japan getting ready to release 1.2 tons of radioactive water from Fukushima into the ocean? How long can the oceans survive this kind of deadly poisoning?

    The rest of this very informative article can be found here.
     
  11. eleos1954

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    Hard to say how it all play's out my friend ... hard to say ;o) The US Constitution has been eroding away for quite some time ... at some point I believe it will disappear completely ... not sure when.
     
  12. Gary K

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    How about another sign of the times? Our nation is now teaching K-12 school kids "gender fluidity" by having drag queens do "educational" programs.

    The rest of this article is found at the following link. K-12 Schools Bringing in Drag Queens to Teach Gender Ideology
     
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    Well, if the swamp has it's own way it will not be too long unless God actively inserts Himself in the process because the swamps timing is not His timing.
     
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    One of the greatest blows to our Constitution took place with very little public knowledge of it happening during the Kavanaugh hearings. In a financial accounting rule created by the Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board (FASAB) the US government has stated that it no longer needs to be transparent in it's financial reporting. In other words, it can hide it's true spending and revenue. In other words it just made itself one great big black box with respect to all things financial.

    This new rule, called FASAB Rule 56, was created due to the findings that $21 trillion is missing from the federal government. And that is only from 2 departments. Why only 2? Because those 2 departments, DoD and HUD, were the only 2 departments that had enough documentation posted to their websites to actually make the determination. So it could very well be much, much higher.

    Why is this such an important issue? One, the Constitution mandates financial transparency so the government saying it has the ability to just lie to us about what it is doing blatently violates the Constitution. Two, this means all financial markets are now black boxes and so are all government reports on economic issues. It means government secrecy on the same scale as the USSR, China, North Korea, etc.... It can do what it wants and never inform us as they can hide all the money they spend doing what ever it is they decide to do.

    I'll give some links here to videos, as I don't believe it's possible to post multiple videos in one post, that will explain the missing money and the FASAB Rule 56 by a financial expert who travels the world teaching financial issues and runs her own investing company. She is an ex-government employee who was once a deputy director of HUD where she found a way to save taxpayers billions of dollars on repossessed houses. She went to her bosses with the program and they turned it down as the decision had already been made as to who to sell the distressed properties to. Not surprisingly a short time later the DOJ started an endless prosecution against her but would never actually put forward the evidence as to her supposed bad behavior. They did that until they bankrupted her because of her legal bills, and then suddenly the charges went away.

    This link speaks to the missing $21 trillion. $21 Trillion Missing – U.S. Government a Criminal Enterprise – Catherine Austin Fitts | Greg Hunter's USAWatchdog

    This link also speaks to the missing $21 trillion but is from a second party who worked on exposing this. He's a PHD in economics and an expert in public accounting. He got into this because he wanted to prove there was no missing money and ended up expanding the original number of around $10 trillion missing to the final number of $21 trillion. Missing $21 Trillion Means Federal Government Is Lawless – Dr. Mark Skidmore | Greg Hunter's USAWatchdog

    The following two links speak to the explanation of what FASAB Rule 56 does in reality.
    Federal Accounting Now Meaningless & Frightening – Catherine Austin Fitts | Greg Hunter's USAWatchdog
    Bipartisan Support for Secret Accounting to Hide Missing Money – Catherine Austin Fitts | Greg Hunter's USAWatchdog
     
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    Creator of US Bioweapons Act says corona virus is a biological weaapon.

    Oops. Forgot the link to the article and video. Creator Of US BioWeapons Act Says Coronavirus Is Biological Warfare Weapon
     
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    Could biological weapons factor into end time events? What does the Bible say about this, if anything?

    In the book of Mark Jesus gives us a hint.
    This passage tells me that the devil will have such great sway over human behavior in the last days he will have us close to wiping ourselves out with our own devices.
     
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    Humanity has become just like we were before the flood. The thoughts of this world are only evil continually. Take a look at what is being taught to our children as young as 10 in this article, but in others as young as kindergarten. This is truly thinking evil continually.

    The rest of this article can be read at the following link.

    Parents sound off over graphic child rape, gay sex scenes in school books for 10 year olds - The American Mirror
     
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    Here's an interesting article about what all is going on simultaneously in our world today. This is right out of the book of Revelation.

    The rest of the article can be read at the following link.

    10 'Plagues' That Are Hitting Our Planet Simultaneously
     
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    Here is a very interesting article, and video, on the destruction of liberty and the enforcement of censorship and the criminalizing of free speech. As the Bible makes it clear that the image to the beast will be a totalitarian ideology this is definitely a sign of the times.

    The link to the article, and the video, is found below.

    UK Considers Making Vaccines Mandatory for all and Criminalizing Criticism of Vaccines
     
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    Our Constitution here in the US has been our guarantee of liberty since our nation was formed. Well, our fundamental rights under the Constitution are being destroyed on a daily basis. The following article speaks to the ongoing destruction of the 2nd Amendment.

    In California the county of Santa Clara in California is forming gun confiscation teams.

    The rest of this article can be read at the following link. 2A Under Fire In CA: Santa Clara Forms Gun Confiscation Team

    The second Amendment to our Constitution makes a positive declaration of the right to keep and bear arms.
    What part of "shall not be infringed" is Santa Clara county following?

    Are we in any way, shape, or form following the Constituituion when entire groups of people are denied their rights under the Constitution? Do you know how many people in this country can be denied their Constitutional rights under these types of classifications? Anyone who has ever been treated for depression, or even has self-reported having had depressive thoughts, can be called mentally ill. Ever gone to your doctor and said, I've been depressed lately? You fit the descritption that can be used to deny you your rights. The numbers vary according to who you read, but are as high as 9% of the entire population of the US. That's 30 million people deprived of their rights under the Constitution and vast majoirity of them have never exhibited violent tendencies. And that's only those who have reported being depressed for any reason at any time. What's worse is the numbers are cumulative. Once counted you're never off the list.

    And that's only one part of the list.

    The Bible tells us that in the last days totalitarianism will be the form of government. It will be so onerous that the government will control us to the point that it will decide who can buy and sell. In other words, who can purchase food and who cannot. Who can purchase shelter and who cannot. Who can purchase medical treatment and who cannot. It looks to me we are well on our way down that slippery slope.
     
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