Significance of 40 Days

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

It's Lent for some.

Flood Geology closed with a chat about FASTING, but what does the 40 days have to do with it?* It seems to be a chosen number range than an actual number?
Jesus fasted for 40 days, apparently the desert wandering were 40 years, and the flood was 40 days.

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* Significance of 40 Days

 

[AV1611VET]

The link doesn't work. Are you trying to explain where the waters went, after the flood? or something else?

From the link:

The Meaning of Numbers: The Number 40

Mentioning 146 times in Scripture, the number 40 generally symbolizes a period of testing, trial or probation. During Moses' life he lived forty years in Egypt and forty years in the desert before God selected him to lead his people out of slavery. Moses was also on Mount Sinai for 40 days and nights, on two separate occasions (Exodus 24:18, 34:1 - 28), receiving God's laws. He also sent spies, for forty days, to investigate the land God promised the Israelites as an inheritance (Numbers 13:25, 14:34).


The prophet Jonah powerfully warned ancient Nineveh, for forty days, that its destruction would come because of its many sins. The prophet Ezekiel laid on His right side for 40 days to symbolize Judah’s sins (Ezekiel 4:6). Elijah went 40 days without food or water at Mount Horeb. Jesus was tempted by the devil not just three times, but MANY times during the 40 days and nights he fasted just before his ministry began. He also appeared to his disciples and others for 40 days after his resurrection from the dead.


The number forty can also represent a generation of man. Because of their sins after leaving Egypt, God swore that the generation of Israelites who left Egyptian bondage would not enter their inheritance in Canaan (Deuteronomy 1). The children of Israel were punished by wandering the wilderness for 40 years before a new generation was allowed to possess the promised land. Jesus, just days before his crucifixion, prophesied the total destruction of Jerusalem (Matthew 24:1 - 2, Mark 13:1 - 2). Forty years after his crucifixion in 30 A.D., the mighty Roman Empire destroyed the city and burned its beloved temple to the ground.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

From the link:

Oh, that is very interesting!

I cannot help wondering if the number was adhered to with such devotion, that the abundance of its use -- had more importance than the tales it occured in.

Obviously, what is of greater interest is whether the same number occurred in earlier flood stories?*

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* Flood Stories from Around the World

 

[RickG]

Oh, that is very interesting!

I cannot help wondering if the number was adhered to with such devotion, that the abundance of its use -- had more importance than the tales it occured in.

Obviously, what is of greater interest is whether the same number occurred in earlier flood stories?*

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* Flood Stories from Around the World

When it rained for 40 days and nights, did it rain everywhere? If so, getting that much evaporated moisture in the atmosphere would drop mean sea level significantly.

 

[JacksBratt]

When it rained for 40 days and nights, did it rain everywhere? If so, getting that much evaporated moisture in the atmosphere would drop mean sea level significantly.

That would be... except the canopy of water above and water that was sandwiched between the earths crust and mantle below were the major sources of water.

Also, remember, Noah was on the ark for one year. The flood was created with 40 days and night of falling water.

 

[RickG]

That would be... except the canopy of water above and water that was sandwiched between the earths crust and mantle below were the major sources of water.

Also, remember, Noah was on the ark for one year. The flood was created with 40 days and night of falling water.

As for water above (canopy), life could not exist on earth beyond that of microbial life, due to the complete darkness and frigged temperatures through absorption of the sun's irradiation by such a canopy. Even AiG and ICR have abandoned the once popular water canopy claim.

As for the sandwiched water between the earth's crust and mantle; neither drill cores, boreholes, or seismic data analysis, including P-waves, S-waves, or surface waves, whether Love wave or Rayleigh wave, show no such water sources.

Please refrain from "just making stuff up".

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

As for water above (canopy), life could not exist on earth beyond that of microbial life, due to the complete darkness and frigged temperatures through absorption of the sun's irradiation by such a canopy. Even AiG and ICR have abandoned the once popular water canopy claim.

As for the sandwiched water between the earth's crust and mantle; neither drill cores, boreholes, or seismic data analysis, including P-waves, S-waves, or surface waves, whether Love wave or Rayleigh wave, show no such water sources.

Please refrain from "just making stuff up".

In the back of my mind, there's this thought that if it on rained for fourty days it must rained cats and dogs for a global flood. Where would all that rain come from, unless it was a dire judgement like those alluded to in Revelation etc. ?

 

[Herman Hedning]

In the back of my mind, there's this thought that if it on rained for fourty days it must rained cats and dogs for a global flood. Where would all that rain come from, unless it was a dire judgement like those alluded to in Revelation etc. ?

The longest continuous rain streak on record is 247 days in Oahu, Hawaii, 1993-94. I'm not sure, but I don't think that involved the four horsemen of the apocalypse or any trumpeting angels.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

The longest continuous rain streak on record is 247 days in Oahu, Hawaii, 1993-94. I'm not sure, but I don't think that involved the four horsemen of the apocalypse or any trumpeting angels.

Yet it didna flud the global hood, like in duh days auf Noah?

 

[AV1611VET]

Obviously, what is of greater interest is whether the same number occurred in earlier flood stories?*

You mean written by people who weren't there because they hadn't been born yet?

 

[AV1611VET]

When it rained for 40 days and nights, did it rain everywhere? If so, getting that much evaporated moisture in the atmosphere would drop mean sea level significantly.

It didn't just rain though.

What brought down the Edmund Fitzgerald?

The rain, or the water underneath?

 

[That Guy 11200]

Isn't it just an error, based on a misunderstanding of the old Hebrew word for 'many', which now means 'forty'?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Rainwater would run down to the sea. The flood waters came up from the sea.

 

[RickG]

Isn't it just an error, based on a misunderstanding of the old Hebrew word for 'many', which now means 'forty'?

Interesting, I just got in from Church and that was the topic of today's sermon. You are correct, it simply means many.

 

[RickG]

Rainwater would run down to the sea. The flood waters came up from the sea.

The bible does not say the flood waters came from the sea.

But aside from that, what would you surmise would be the 40 days of rain with respect to sea level. Would it rise, and if so by how much?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

double post

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The bible does not say the flood waters came from the sea.

The "fountains of the great deep" refer to the waters of the oceans, the only logical source of all that water. Also note that the ark travelled away from the sea, carried further inland from the sea coast.

But aside from that, what would you surmise would be the 40 days of rain with respect to sea level. Would it rise, and if so by how much?

If the rain was global it was probably just a big water cycle, and the sea level wouldn't be affected.

 

[RickG]

If the rain was global it was probably just a big water cycle, and the sea level wouldn't be affected.

Correct.

In climate science rain is what is known as a "feedback". The entire global moisture content cycles completely every 7 to 10 days.