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Sicko

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It seems Moore has another winner, the reviews are looking very good and it has an 89% on RT.

Anyone else seeing it?

:)
I'm going this Friday.

But I'm a huge fan of Moore's. Regardless of what the critics said, I'd still see it.
 
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I’m looking forward to seeing ‘Sicko’. I, like so many are fans of Michael Moore since Fahrenheit 9/11. I like the way he gets the point across using people’s own words. He does it with film clips and sound bites. Gr8 job Michael.
 
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I’m looking forward to seeing ‘Sicko’. I, like so many are fans of Michael Moore since Fahrenheit 9/11. I like the way he gets the point across using people’s own words. He does it with film clips and sound bites....

...and by clever editing to make those 'facts' say whatever he wants them to say. For instance, in F 9/11, Moore makes it appear in the days following 9/11 that certain Saudis were given a green light by Bush himself to leave the country while air restrictions weres till in place for everyone else, when in reality,

the Saudis left the U.S. only after air travel was opened for the general public; according to Richard Clarke and the September 11 Commission, Clarke personally approved the Saudi departures, and the decision went no higher in the chain of command; Moore lied to a TV reporter in claiming that [FONT=FYEYXL+Dutch801BT-Italic,Dutch]Fahrenheit [/FONT]discloses Clarke’s decision to the audience. Clarke called the Saudi exit material in [FONT=FYEYXL+Dutch801BT-Italic,Dutch]Fahrenheit [/FONT]a "mistake" by Moore; and contrary to what [FONT=FYEYXL+Dutch801BT-Italic,Dutch]Fahrenheit [/FONT]claims, the September 11 Commission found that many Saudis were asked "detailed questions" before being allowed to leave.

http://www.davekopel.org/terror/59Deceits.pdf

Also, in F 9/11, Moore claims that Saudis own 7% of America. This is an outright lie. Saudis own 7% of foreign investments in America...a huge difference.

So...it's OK to 'massage' facts to make them say what your political agenda requires them to say? I'd say that Moore's integrity is severely called into question, and there is no way any "documentary" by him should be relied upon for objectivity, but should at best be considered political commentary.
 
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... For instance, in F 9/11, Moore makes it appear in the days following 9/11 that certain Saudis were given a green light by Bush himself to leave the country while air restrictions weres till in place...
Can you show where he said they left while restrictions were in place? This neo-con bit of non-fact was the talking points of every conservative radio show when F 9/11 was first out but they could not fine it in the script. The neo-cons had to end up saying, it sounded like he said it.
 
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Nope, I mean another highly critically reveiwed film based on factual information.

:)

1. Not all his films are highly, critically acclaimed.
2. Factual information? Yeah...uh. Not all the time.


Anyways, I'll give Sicko a view, but I won't get out of my to see it. His movies aren't always correct, but entertaining for the most part. I have two problems with his films. He always shows the problem, never a solution. And you usually don't feel good after watching it. He should at least end things with some positive information.
 
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What...you mean another con job like Farenheit 9/11? :sigh:

Nope, I mean another highly critically reveiwed film based on factual information.

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...and by clever editing to make those 'facts' say whatever he wants them to say. For instance, in F 9/11, Moore makes it appear in the days following 9/11 that certain Saudis were given a green light by Bush himself to leave the country while air restrictions weres till in place for everyone else, when in reality,



Also, in F 9/11, Moore claims that Saudis own 7% of America. This is an outright lie. Saudis own 7% of foreign investments in America...a huge difference.

So...it's OK to 'massage' facts to make them say what your political agenda requires them to say? I'd say that Moore's integrity is severely called into question, and there is no way any "documentary" by him should be relied upon for objectivity, but should at best be considered political commentary.


I read this in a book by Carmen bin Laden ex-wife of one of bin laden's 45 brothers, quite some time before this was becoming public knowlege,so yep,I totally agree with Michael Moore and the facts are the bin Laden's WERE flown out of this country when air flight was restricted!

If you don't think Saudi Arabia owns at the very least 7% of America,you either work for the U.S. government or you really need to do more research.
 
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So frustrating! We have 6 big movie theatres in town (and 4 of them are the same chain) and only ONE is playing "Sicko" (oddly one of the chains. Why would they only show it at one?) And of course it's the one farthest away from me. What a moral dilemna, use gas and resources and drive that far support a movie that I really want to support??? I guess I'll wait until I'm going out that way anyway, maybe to the mall or something.
I know I could see it for free online, but I really do want to show my support for this movie.
After church today a bunch of people where going to go see it. My husband had somewhere to go though. It was cool that everyone was talking about it though.
What's really frustrating is that our local paper has been printing stories about people that have no insurance and serious health problems and can't get treatment and thiings like that. They're writing about the movie, even talked about the local premier (and how none of the reps from any of the hospitals who where invited came :sigh:) but only ONE local theatre (that is technically not even in this city, which is a pretty big city) is playing it.
I guess the theatres just assume everyone would rather see Bruce Willis shoot people than hear about an issue that's relevant and most likely pertains to them in some way.
 
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Michael Moore tends to leave a lot of facts out of his statistics and other facts to make his viewpoint look right. Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 were both full of only half truths and some false information. I am sure Sicko will be the same way. I have already heard some of his facts are wrong or half truths in Sicko.

I would like to see Sicko, but I do not want to pay to see it, I don't want to be giving MM any more money!
 
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Despite the spouts of inacurate information, MM reveals many truths not disclosed to the American public by their government. The most beneficial/depressing thing about Farenheit 9/11 is that the brutality and reality of war is showcased to the public. MM's films force the public to think for themselves, and even do a bit of research to find out if all the mentioned atrocities are true. I eventually will watch Sicko, either when I get a chance to go to the movie theatre, or when it comes out on DVD.
 
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Despite the spouts of inacurate information, MM reveals many truths not disclosed to the American public by their government.

But the half-truths, innuendo, and clever editing to make what we see seem to say the opposite of the facts are the equivalent to what he accuses the government of doing...lying!
 
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