It should be clearly understood that Christ saves us from Hell which is the consiquence of sin. Originally posted by sola fide
Funny, I never read the word eternal in Romans 6:23. I have no question that Christ's redemtion is perfect and complete. But we still must face certain consequences of the law. Life is not "perfect", even in Christ, by temporal standards. The sweet by and by will be perfect...but even as a well known charismatic, John Osteen said...we don't live in the sweet by and by, we live in the nasty now and now. Some redemptive aspects are eternal, not temporal, and we must live with that fact in all faith and humility. Sickness, death, etc. can be a tool used by God in His eternal purpose.
Working for God carries no burden?
Galatians 6:2,5-
"Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ...
For every man shall bear his own burden."
Soli Deo gloria!
Originally posted by SnuP
My wife read the book that Andrew refered to before our first child was born. She was believing God for a painless child birth, but found out that there was some thing abnormal about her body that would prevent this the first time around. She went full term with a heart shaped uterus (not fully developed), this was very unusual. The docter said that most women with this condition either lose the baby or it is born premature. You could tell from looking at her belly that there really was not enough room for the baby. My wife began to believe that the baby would be healthy and come on the right date, that it would also develope to the right weight. My wife had a quick delivery, 8 hours, and required only a local anastetic. This is also very unusual for a first pregnancy and for one with her condition. The baby was born 8 pounds, 9 ounces. The water sack around the baby was unusually thick and the doctor had to break it. It is believed that it was this way to help insure that the baby didn't come early. If you take all of these unusual circumstances, you will see a definite miracule. There are too many coincidences here to not see that God was at work.
My wife is now 6 months pregnant with our second child. We fully expect a wonderful delivery without any pain this time, and even faster than before.
In Christ
SnuP
Originally posted by sn00zles
Just my humble point of view, but I don't see why some of you are getting personal and often sarcastic with your messages/replies. We all worship and serve the same God.
Romans 14:1 "Welcome those who are weak in faith, but do not argue with them about their personal opinions"
Originally posted by sn00zles
Personally, I agree with Quaffer and Andrew in their views on healing - in that basically we can be healed by faith
Originally posted by sn00zles
We all worship and serve the same God.
Originally posted by DaveKerwin
And whats with this christian book phenomenon? Just because a christian wrote it does not mean it lines up with the truths of God. Don't get me started on the prayer of Jabez !
Originally posted by DaveKerwin
A "quick" 8 hour delivery with only minimal pain killers was an easy pain free birth? Why were local anesthetics needed if it was pain free? My mother birthed me with no pain killers, she is into the natural child birth thing. I don't doubt for a second that God was at work. Congrats on a healthy child, but it came through pain.
Andrew mentioned women who gave pain free births, call me a skeptic, but I don't go for that. Do I believe it is possible? Yes I do. Do I think women give birth without pain? No. And whats with this christian book phenomenon? Just because a christian wrote it does not mean it lines up with the truths of God. Don't get me started on the prayer of Jabez !
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