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Split Rock

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I suppose you could argue the bible is old and dead but its not quite a fossil.
Im almost surprised nobody had anything to say on jayem's presentation. its a "missing link" where are the creationists defenders?

Oh come now.... its just a fishapod!
 
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My equivalent challenge is for a Christian to proove their religion is true by making a pumpkin explode with their mind, just like their religion says they can.

Of course Christianity makes absolutely no such claim. If I were to claim it did then you would suspect I had a completely skewed view of it.

Just like Creationists have a distorted straw man view of evolution.
 
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Of course Christianity makes absolutely no such claim. If I were to claim it did then you would suspect I had a completely skewed view of it.
Believe me, Ryal, you guys don't need to challenge us to make a pumpkin explode with our mind to convince us you guys have a skewed view of Christianity.

According to you guys, we should be out crusading, but only when we don't have any witches to put on trial.
 
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So, why aren't you out doing what God told you to do?
Wrong dispensation; and I've already shown from Jesus' own words that the Crusades were in spite of the Bible, not in respect to It.

You must be the one "hearing" God (more appropriately, "god") talking to us.
 
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Split Rock

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Wrong dispensation; and I've already shown from Jesus' own words that the Crusades were in spite of the Bible, not in respect to It.

You must be the one "hearing" God (more appropriately, "god") talking to us.

Really.... Jesus mentioned The Crusades?
 
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Here's your "fossil record":

  • Leviticus 11:19 = And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
  • Deuteronomy 14:18 = And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

So the bible's a fossil?

fossil
–noun
1. any remains, impression, or trace of a living thing of a former geologic age, as a skeleton, footprint, etc.
2. a markedly outdated or old-fashioned person or thing.
3. a linguistic form that is archaic except in certain restricted contexts, as nonce in for the nonce, or that follows a rule or pattern that is no longer productive, as the sentence So be it.
 
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Believe me, Ryal, you guys don't need to challenge us to make a pumpkin explode with our mind to convince us you guys have a skewed view of Christianity.

According to you guys, we should be out crusading, but only when we don't have any witches to put on trial.

Exactly. There are hard core athiest who go overboard with their criticisism of religion.

But does the example suggest that you may have a skewed perception of the theory of evolution? In all my life I've never met a creationist who had a real understanding of the theory of evolution. They always believe that science belives a strawman version.
 
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In all my life I've never met a creationist who had a real understanding of the theory of evolution.
When I see statements like this, I smile [inside].

That's like saying you never met a child who had a real understanding of how liquor tastes.

Good for that child --- :thumbsup:
 
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When I see statements like this, I smile [inside].

That's like saying you never met a child who had a real understanding of how liquor tastes.

Good for that child --- :thumbsup:

I often wonder.... why did your god give Adam such a capacity for thought when He didn't want Adam to use it?
 
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When I see statements like this, I smile [inside].

That's like saying you never met a child who had a real understanding of how liquor tastes.

Good for that child --- :thumbsup:

That makes sense that you would think that way since ignorance cannot destroy your faith but education and investigation can.
 
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That makes sense that you would think that way since ignorance cannot destroy your faith but education and investigation can.
No, it can't --- history has proven that over and over.

And it didn't destroy Jesus' faith, did it?
 
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Noone can confirm or deny that Jesus was a real historical figure and even if he was noone can confirm or deny that he was the son of God. He may have just been a carpenter who gave hope to people.

More people are Atheist than ever before, education is slowly destroying faith. Religion for most people is no longer a large or even important part of their lives.
 
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When I see statements like this, I smile [inside].

That's like saying you never met a child who had a real understanding of how liquor tastes.

Good for that child --- :thumbsup:

Actually having an understanding of the opposite side can help you debate against it better. I am a firm believer that understanding both sides of an issue can help you make an informed decision.

I think creationists are afraid to understand evolution...
 
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Actually having an understanding of the opposite side can help you debate against it better. I am a firm believer that understanding both sides of an issue can help you make an informed decision.

I think creationists are afraid to understand evolution...


Couldn't agree more. On average atheists/agnostics have a far greater understanding of religion and the bible than creationists have of science and evolution.
 
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More people are Atheist than ever before, education is slowly destroying faith. Religion for most people is no longer a large or even important part of their lives.
Just as Paul said it would.

The Bible is right on target and up-to-date.
 
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The bible is written so that anything that happens can be seen to be predicted by the bible. No doubt after seeing the fall of so many religions the bible was written so that when Christianity started to fall it could be seen as a prophecy and keep people's belief in these fairy tales.
 
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Actually having an understanding of the opposite side can help you debate against it better.
Oh, my --- [insert irony meter remark of your choice here].

You guys, who can't even get past Genesis 1 without rolling your eyes; you guys, who can't even understand why we're not out there putting witches on trial; you guys, who can't understand why we're not marching out on a crusade; executing our children for picking up sticks; adding another 14 books to our Bible; and think there's 38,000 (that's 'thousand') sects of Christianity; would make a statement like this?
 
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