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Should we keep the law yes or no an if no tell me why

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first of all i would like to say to those who dont belive the gospel of jesus christ an think christ he did it all he did his part not our you still have to work an just in case you dont belive read this please hebrew 10- 1-7 plus jesus our own savour said if ye keep my commandments ye shall abide in my love the key word sister an brother he said my commandments this is enough to let us know hes been around for a while last scrip proverbs 28.v 7 / - v 9
 
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:wave:roshan turner, welcome to CF.

Romans 3:20-23 (NIV)

20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. 21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
 
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:wave:roshan turner, welcome to CF.

Romans 3:20-23 (NIV)

20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. 21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

you did not answer the question?
 
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2 Corinthians 3:6 - 11
6He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, fading though it was, 8will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9If the ministry that condemns men is glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11And if what was fading away came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!
 
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:wave:roshan turner, welcome to CF.

Romans 3:20-23 (NIV)

20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. 21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


Those are some good verses, lets brake them down a little.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Paul is taking about the deed of the law, but what law? Most people don't understand that Paul talks about two law. So lets narrow it down.

Now Paul said in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET. [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law. [/FONT][/FONT](v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.


So we no that paul is not talking about the commandments in the first half or Romans 3:20, cause we just read in Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.


3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;


There goes Paul talking about a law we don't have deal with again, but then paul says being witnessed by the law and the prophets, so we see two laws being spoken in one verse. What is that other law Paul is talking about?


3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:


What is the righteousness of God? which is by faith. Lets go to Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
 
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Galatians 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me."


Galatians 3:2 "I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?"


Galatians 6:14-16
14May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. 15Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation. 16Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of God.
 
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first of all i would like to say to those who dont belive the gospel of jesus christ an think christ he did it all he did his part not our you still have to work an just in case you dont belive read this please hebrew 10- 1-7 plus jesus our own savour said if ye keep my commandments ye hall abide in my love the key word sister an brother he said my commandments this is enoug to let us know hes been around for a while last scrip proverbs 28. 7 / skip to v/ 9

Your questions are a bit garbled because you left out punctuation, so I'll answer as best as I can.

"Should we keep the law, yes or no." Well, it depends on two things: (1) why you should keep the law, and (2) which law you are talking about.

(1) Why should someone keep the law? The Bible tells us expressly that if you want to be righteous before God, keeping the law will not work. Romans and Galatians are clear on this point.

(2) Which laws are we talking about? If we are talking about the laws in the Old Testament that were administrated by the Levitical priesthood (such as the feasts and sacrifices), then no, we don't need to keep those laws. We have a new priest in Jesus, and the Bible says nothing about His Melchizedic priesthood administering the OT laws. Hebrews 9-10 are clear about this.

If we believe that we are servants of God, and God still speaks to us today, then we necessarily believe that we will receive commandments from God. Those commandments must be kept, not because we are trying to be righteous before God or earn salvation, but because we say we are His servants, or we are His children. Keeping these commandments will bring great reward, such as peace and abiding in His love.

I hope this answer helps you!
 
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If we believe that we are servants of God, and God still speaks to us today, then we necessarily believe that we will receive commandments from God. Those commandments must be kept, not because we are trying to be righteous before God or earn salvation, but because we say we are His servants, or we are His children. Keeping these commandments will bring great reward, such as peace and abiding in His love.

I hope this answer helps you!

God does speak to us today, but all we need to know has already been written down in the inspired Scriptures, the Word of God. The NT Epistles reveal to us the commandments we need to follow, if we have the Holy Spirit living in us to teach us the truth.
 
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first of all i would like to say to those who dont belive the gospel of jesus christ an think christ he did it all he did his part not our you still have to work an just in case you dont belive read this please hebrew 10- 1-7 plus jesus our own savour said if ye keep my commandments ye hall abide in my love the key word sister an brother he said my commandments this is enoug to let us know hes been around for a while last scrip proverbs 28. 7 / skip to v/ 9

Do what the Spirit leads you to do. Acknowledge the sin the Spirit leads you to acknowledge and repent from that sin. The Holy Scripture and Laws are from GOD, not man. If the Spirit dwells within you the Spirit will lead you to all truth. The Laws are good.

1 John 5:17 - 18 All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death. We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of GOD keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.

2 John 6 And this is love; that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beggining, his command is that you walk in love.

I ask what love is there in disobedience to GOD's Commands?

3 John 11 - 12 Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from GOD.

Jude 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our GOD into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereing Lord.
 
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God does speak to us today, but all we need to know has already been written down in the inspired Scriptures, the Word of God. The NT Epistles reveal to us the commandments we need to follow, if we have the Holy Spirit living in us to teach us the truth.

God speaks most importantly through the Holy Scriptures. He will not contradict what He has written. However, can He not speak through you, Stelow? Jesus entrusted His disciples to go out and preach the kingdom. In Romans 10 we find that people will not believe unless someone speaks, and through that message of Christ the Spirit will convict their hearts and turn them to faith. God speaks through people who know His Word!
 
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2 Corinthians 3:6 - 11
6He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, fading though it was, 8will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9If the ministry that condemns men is glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11And if what was fading away came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!
hello stelow i see you read my post well i have some what to say to bro because of your undertsanding of the bible you give scrip that does not support your belive the law that is done away with is law of animal sacrifice read hebrew ch 10 ; does man have laws an did not the lord say he change not malachi 3. verse 6 leviticus 4- 1 skip to verse 5-6 now lets see what happen to jesus when he died st luke ch 23 ; v 44 to 45 now lets read galatians ch 3 verse 10-13 now if you read these scrip an verse you well understand the scripture says crusied is everone that is on the tree jesus was hang on a tree wich was made out of a cross galatians please read ch 3 verse 24-25 an that faith is jesus christ now if any man say he 1 john ch 2 verse 4 he that saith i know him and keepeth not his commandment is a liar an the truth is not in him an if you dont belive it ask the dc sniper who broke mans law he went to jail did he jesus told a person go an sin no more lest a worse thing come unto thee that let you know it can get worse peace bro in the name of jesus oo i forgot to give you the scrip st john ch 5 verse 14
 
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Nicely said, Stelow :thumbsup:
now i see your trying to gain up on me but its ok jesus said i send you out as lambs among wolves please read these scrip st john ch 10 verse 3to11 then hear what jesus said in verse 16 people need to start read these scrip now if you think the law is done away with your wrong does not man have laws is man greater then god an jesus said his self why call me lord lord an do not the thing which i say st luke 6 - verse46 now after read the scrip what did he tell us st john ch 14 verse 15 now the law that is done a way is animal sacrifice read hebrews ch 10 peace in jesus name
 
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Do what the Spirit leads you to do. Acknowledge the sin the Spirit leads you to acknowledge and repent from that sin. The Holy Scripture and Laws are from GOD, not man. If the Spirit dwells within you the Spirit will lead you to all truth. The Laws are good.

1 John 5:17 - 18 All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death. We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of GOD keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.

2 John 6 And this is love; that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beggining, his command is that you walk in love.

I ask what love is there in disobedience to GOD's Commands?

3 John 11 - 12 Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from GOD.

Jude 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our GOD into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereing Lord.
amen
 
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"Originally Posted by andreha, Nicely said, Stelow :thumbsup:
now i see your trying to gain up on me but its ok jesus said i send you out as lambs among wolves


It sounds like you're saying that me and andreha are wolves that are trying to gang up on you, is that correct?
 
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We all must understand this one point: Keeping the Law is a Commandment from God; not a request! To make the statement that we don't have to keep the commandments or the Lord's feast days are truly words of the "uninformed", and are truly dangerous!

Lev.23:1-And the Lord spake unto Moses saying,2-Speak unto the children of Israel and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the Lord, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.3-Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation: ye shall do no work therein; it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

As stated, these feast days are the Lord's, and are to be observed in all your dwellings. This holds true for Israel, the natural seed,as well as for those who have become spiritual Israel. Natural Israel must too become spiritual by keeping the Laws and Commandments of God.

Eph2:11-Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called ;Uncircumcision by that which is called the circumcision inthe flesh made by hands; 12-That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:13- But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.14- For He is our peace, who have made both one, and have broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15- Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

The law was in existence in the world whether it was known by some and not known by others. Israel, was chosen to be the Priests to teach the Law to the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam. We know that Christ's crucifixion ended animal sacrifice, and the Levitical Priesthood, thus breaking down the middle wall of partition (animal sacrifice) uniting Israel with other nations, thus making them equal in Christ.

Eph2:18- For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19- Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20- and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone.

Heb.13:8- Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.

So being built on the foundation of the apostles, and prophets with Jesus being the chief cornerstone, why would'nt we all have to the laws, commandments, and yes! feast days as well.

Can anyone tell me by whose hand was this changed by? Certainly not The Most High. Remember Abraham paid a tenth to Melchisedek.
Peace To All In The Mighty Name of Jesus


 
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God speaks most importantly through the Holy Scriptures. He will not contradict what He has written. However, can He not speak through you, Stelow? Jesus entrusted His disciples to go out and preach the kingdom. In Romans 10 we find that people will not believe unless someone speaks, and through that message of Christ the Spirit will convict their hearts and turn them to faith. God speaks through people who know His Word!

Did you happen to notice the most of my posts are scriptures?
 
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Your questions are a bit garbled because you left out punctuation, so I'll answer as best as I can.

"Should we keep the law, yes or no." Well, it depends on two things: (1) why you should keep the law, and (2) which law you are talking about.

(1) Why should someone keep the law? The Bible tells us expressly that if you want to be righteous before God, keeping the law will not work. Romans and Galatians are clear on this point.

(2) Which laws are we talking about? If we are talking about the laws in the Old Testament that were administrated by the Levitical priesthood (such as the feasts and sacrifices), then no, we don't need to keep those laws. We have a new priest in Jesus, and the Bible says nothing about His Melchizedic priesthood administering the OT laws. Hebrews 9-10 are clear about this.

If we believe that we are servants of God, and God still speaks to us today, then we necessarily believe that we will receive commandments from God. Those commandments must be kept, not because we are trying to be righteous before God or earn salvation, but because we say we are His servants, or we are His children. Keeping these commandments will bring great reward, such as peace and abiding in His love.

I hope this answer helps you!

Did you happen to notice the most of my posts are scriptures?
What does that mean? Does the ability to quote scripture have any special meaning- seeing as how the devil also knows scripture.
 
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