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I also am not convinced Paul spoke concerning a third temple either.In Chapter 40, Ezekiel is transported in a vision from his home among the exiles in Babylon to Israel (not Heaven), where a divine messenger holding a measuring rod appears to him. The messenger gives Ezekiel a tour of the Temple, measuring the various walls, gates, and courts. At one point, the glory of the Lord, which was seen departing from the Temple in an earlier vision (Chap. 10), is seen returning to inhabit the Temple (43:1–4).
Is Ezekiel's Temple a (4th) Millennial Temple on earth inhabited by the Lord assuming a 3rd Temple is yet to be built before the Lord's return. This view, commonly held among dispensationalists, is that Ezekiel’s Temple will be established after the second coming of Messiah Yeshua. Ezekiel's "restored earth" Temple will serve as the worship center for all people during the “millennium.” Is it not possible that this Temple already exists in Heaven and will be transported/translated to a new earth when Messiah Yeshua returns.
Paul also mentions the Anti-Christ’s desecration of a (3rd) Temple when he describes him as the "man of sin and the son of perdition who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the 3rd Temple, showing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).
Lol, it was probably my misread of you. Sorry.I don't think that I said he was the priest in Ezekiels Temple (or if I did it was a mistake of mine - on some cold meds...). Ezekiel 42:13-14, 43:19.24-27, basically all of 44 and further in the book all identify the priests as Kohanim. I believe Ezekiel 1:26-28 are about Yeshua, but I do not believe Yeshua is the priest in Ezekiel's Temple, I believe he is the priest in the Heavenly Temple.
Me either, though the idea is interesting. I referenced the KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV and CJB. None say "third Temple" they simply say "temple". Though I do not read Greek well enough yet to reference it.I also am not convinced Paul spoke concerning a third temple either.
Well, I think it could be something like the proclamations and the images minted on coins during the revolt of Simon ben Gioras, leading to the destruction of the temple, and then the latter exile from Jerusalem under bar kochba revolt.Me either, though the idea is interesting. I referenced the KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV and CJB. None say "third Temple" they simply say "temple". Though I do not read Greek well enough yet to reference it.
Well, at first, the church was indistinct from Judaism, the church was a sect of Judaism. But even when that was no longer the case, and the mainly Gentile churches had come into being, the Jewish believers continued offering sacrifices at the Temple, because... sorry I can't answer this and stay within the SOP. PM me if you wish.I do not understand the significance of these two issues for you.
Neither of them have anything specific to do with what Jews did as a Church.. In other words these things had nothing to do with them being believers in Christ. Unbelievers were doing the same. Therefore what Jews did as believers was distinct from these things. As you yourself say,,,,As communion is.....
Of course, the first believers were all Jew's. They were seen as another sect of the Jew's. Sectarian differences were apart from temple assembly.Well, at first, the church was indistinct from Judaism, the church was a sect of Judaism.
I also am not convinced Paul spoke concerning a third temple either.
Me either, though the idea is interesting. I referenced the KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV and CJB. None say "third Temple" they simply say "temple". Though I do not read Greek well enough yet to reference it.
So... what is on the shekel?Well, I think it could be something like the proclamations and the images minted on coins during the revolt of Simon ben Gioras, leading to the destruction of the temple, and then the latter exile from Jerusalem under bar kochba revolt.
Mt 22:19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.
Mrk 12:15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.
16 And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar’s.
Here is a copy and paste from livius;So... what is on the shekel?A silver Jerusalem shekel (ad 68) from the First Jewish Revolt against Roman rule. The obverse inscription reads "Shekel of Israel / Year 3" and that on the reverse "Jerusalem the Holy".
Why didn't Yeshua ask for the shekel?
I am listening to a video right now that goes into detail on how the Orthodox community are asking President TRump about the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple.......Well, at first, the church was indistinct from Judaism, the church was a sect of Judaism. But even when that was no longer the case, and the mainly Gentile churches had come into being, the Jewish believers continued offering sacrifices at the Temple, because... sorry I can't answer this and stay within the SOP. PM me if you wish.
Where's the Levite,??!!
Did you understand Haggai 2 or the book of Hebrews?
Apparently you didn't
I couldn't agree with you more Dennis. I think the world, especially the Arab world, is going to have to adjust to the fact that Jewish sacrifice will resume on the Temple Mount (It doesn't mean that the Mosque will go away).This topic is highly relevant again considering all that has been happening in Israel.
I am listening to a quite exceptional video right now......I couldn't agree with you more Dennis. I think the world, especially the Arab world, is going to have to adjust to the fact that Jewish sacrifice will resume on the Temple Mount (It doesn't mean that the Mosque will go away).
BTW, I really love the Rav Nachman quote in your tagline. Na Nach Nachma Nachman Me'uman!
I do not understand the world economy. I live half a year with my wife, half a year without a wife in a desolate place in the mountains. I have little money, but a lot of free time. The problem of global warming does not bother me, because every winter I freeze in my house, there are very cold winters. I read that they write about global warming, and I got the impression that there is no warming, it's all within the usual fluctuations of average temperature. It seems to me that some scientists thus work out their grants: it is convenient to receive money, adjusting to the general mood of politicians.
As for the issue of the construction of Ezekiel's Temple, everything here is quite simple.
Israel is considered a free state. Probably, in Israel they build not only synagogues, but also mosques, and maybe build new churches? If there is any religious group consisting of Israeli citizens - can they get the right to build a building to send their worship?
I read somewhere that there are at least 5,000 Messianic Jews in Israel. Can 5,000 Messianic Jews organize daily pickets around the Knesset?
In 1989, when there was perestroika in the USSR, only 1 candidate was nominated in the first election of deputies to the Congress of People's Deputies in the city district: the head of the regional party organization of the CPSU. And there were no opposition parties in the district. The Communists expected that their only candidate would be elected, because no one had resisted them for 70 years.
In those days I joined a very small group of the opposition, which was called "For the Popular Front." In the area where I lived, there were 300,000 voters. Suddenly, I got a call from my organization and was told that they appointed me coordinator of the whole district, and they gave me a list of 5 people who lived in this area and joined the organization almost simultaneously with me. Four people to the whole huge district of the big city, I was the fifth person.
It turned out that only two out of five have time to engage in agitation against the Communists and stand with posters near the metro station. Another one was able to print leaflets, on small scraps of paper. True, by the end of the first day, we had several assistants. And this lone picket made a huge impression on all the people who passed us. The first secretary of the regional committee of the CPSU, a candidate member of the Politburo, lost this election. Voters actively participated in the elections and were not too lazy to strike out the only candidate from their ballots.
You think you get permission from the Knesset for the construction of the Temple in the Judean desert is more difficult than to defeat the Communists in the Soviet Union? Remember the story of the pharaoh. This is the House of God, and this building is to gather God's people there. The authorities who will resist God will not stand.
So, today we have a problem only in ourselves. We do not have 5,000 Messianic Jews who want Jesus Christ's victory in the elections in Israel, we do not even have 5, as was the case in 1989 in Leningrad.
A few words about the devil. But the devil does not need a temple, because he is in power today. He can chuckle when Christians expect him to build a temple that will be a trap for him: the prophecies of Scripture leave him very little time after he is revealed in this world. But if Christians believe that they should not engage in Ezekiel's Temple, until the Antichrist appears, then let ... The devil is quite satisfied with this expectation from Christians. He will do nothing to build such a temple. Let them wait again and again, ad infinitum. And he will rule this world.
Gentlemen! Under no circumstances should you rely on the devil in your expectations: he is a liar.
Therefore, I will tell you how I would act if I were a citizen of Israel. I would stand with a poster in Jerusalem near the Knesset. I would have risen on the square to collect signatures for the construction of the Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. I would put a tent near the mountain, I would go up that mountain for prayer. I would sing there psalms and praise the Lord. And I'm sure: The temple would be built in the shortest possible time.
But I'm in Russia, I'm not an Israeli citizen, I burned my Russian passport. I am nobody. Therefore, judge for yourself, what could we do together in such a situation?
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