With sincere care for your efforts on behalf of our sister who started this thread. Don't you think those two men show by their example what Swill is talking about as a behavior deficit in her own husband? Isn't it perfect how God calls that to show itself here so that the wives and husbands involved in this that aren't acting like that can see what the real life problem Swill has looks like as it unfolds post after post? As those two men go at it together.
I would say as I've demonstrated myself that we don't have to get in the middle of that. They're making these charges each against her. And at-a-boying one another as they do that in tandem.
Dear Swill doesn't have to acknowledge that. She's seeing there what she lives with at home. That's what she's asking us to help her with.
I pray if all the rest of us let the two , the one and his disciple as you all it, pay attention to each other and we say nothing about or to it so that it has no reason to continue by replying and thereby furthering itself that it'll go away. Stop. Or just continue to be an example of what needs be overcome in Swill's personal life.
I think it was Aird, Katherine Aird, who said, “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.”
In this case perhaps a God given blessing. To put into perspective the mindset that Swill is attempting to understand in her husband is showing itself in two men posting in a thread she wrote about her husband.
Study the example. Don't attempt to take it on. It's comfortable showing off itself. And its , the attitude, that spirit, been at it a long time before we encountered it.
Learn from. Don't try to change it. That's just a challenge to stick to the opinion. Because you know why, right? You're a woman! Who is taking issue with what is saying it is at least in two cases that pervasive male attitude.
Ladies, sisters in Christ, God's glory that he created as glory for man, this is an awesome opportunity and blessing. To watch and learn .
What does that one set of such male values say in theology circles? Women should stay quiet in the church?

Stay quiet when such men dare you to challenge their speech and opinions that may raise your hackles. You don't live with it. But you can learn what it looks like.

What can we do to overcome attitudes such as those that make themselves public here ? When talking to and about women and their role and place in relationship?
After all, this is the marriage restoration and divorce discussion area. A sanctuary where we can help each other.
Let's do that.


Watch and learn.
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!