Should Hamas Surrender?

[Landon Caeli]

I think I know what would happen.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I do not know, I am not a prophet. However, I think that things would be better if United Nations in 1948 granted Jews land for example in USA than in the midst of muslims.

But we can't go back to 1948. And if the Palestinians were set free, they would massacre all the Jews, and take all the land. FOR SURE.

So everyone who who is protesting in support of "freeing Palestine", is supporting a second Holocaust, whether they realize it or not, it's what they're doing.

 

[trophy33]

But we can't go back to 1948. And if the Palestinians were set free, they would massacre all the Jews, and take all the land.

The only solution I can think of is moving Israel somewhere else. There is plenty of good land around the globe, but they would need to give up their Zionism.

 

[Landon Caeli]

The only solution I can think of is moving Israel somewhere else. There is plenty of good land around the globe, but they would need to give up their Zionism.

You know that can't happen.

 

[trophy33]

You know that can't happen.

Well, it can happen, but I do not expect it to happen. People will rather kill each other for a piece of specific land and various world powers will continue to spend billions to support this or that side.

 

[trophy33]

Yahweh's Solution is Permanent and Better:

biblehub.com › joshua › 21-43.htm

Joshua 21:43 Thus the LORD gave Israel all the land He had sworn to ...​

Forty-Eight Cities for the Levites … 42 Each of these cities had its own surrounding pasturelands; this was true for all the cities. 43 Thus the LORD gave Israel all the land He had sworn to give

We do not live in the Old Testament and the United Nations (or the British empire) are not Lord. Modern Israel is a secular state, not related to the Bible.

 

[trophy33]

Thus a worldwide mis-understanding and allowing and promoting sin and allowing terrorists to attack Yahweh's people, even the apple of His Eye.
Woe is written to all who seek to harm His Chosen People (Spiritual and National)

Nobody is promoting terrorism. Your religious bias is not relevant regarding the complicated situation and basically no possible good solution.

 

[trophy33]

Proverbs 28:4 – Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, (terrorists)

but those who keep the law strive against them.

You can be wicked and not being a terrorist. Also, law was till Christ.

 

[trophy33]

If someone forsakes the law, they promote / encourage both.

At least the way some are defending the terrorists on this forum, is forsaking the law and practicing (taking part in) the wicked terrorists activity.

Law was till Christ, its an irrelevant association.

 

[dfw69]

I'm a Christian in full support of Zion.

...And I love Jews.

How can one be a Christian and a Zionist the values are different

I swear I don't know what it means entirely. But whatever it is, it can't be that bad.

Do you know what it means? I don't think anyone knows what it means... Because, as I mentioned, it's just a scare-word.

its not a scared word- it’s an ideology much like fascism .. it’s the new hitler Nazi regime so to speak …

 

[trophy33]

Do you deny Jesus then ? Jesus says the Torah/Law will not pass away until heaven and earth have melted (paraphrased).

Do not paraphrase and read the rest of the New Testament.

 

[dfw69]

I have to strongly disagree with that statement.

I do not support the Hamas Terrorists' at all, they need to surrender immediately and stop launching missiles into Israel. .

Wings like eagles the children and civilians of Gaza are not terrorist and to believe they deserve to die because they may grow up to be terrorist is just inhumane

 

[trophy33]

In every translation, in full, the Torah has not passed away.

Those who take away from His Word, from them He Says He takes away their portion of life....

If you wish to discuss it, there are specific threads for this topic.

 

[dfw69]

It is good that they seek to stop the evil ungodly pagan bad terrorists ?

Or would you prefer the evil ungodly pagan bad terrorists to get as powerful and murder as many as Hitler did in wwII ?

Bombing gaza full of woman and children and men who have not done one ounce of evil upon their oppressors are not the enemy.. they live in peace with and accept thier horrible lot they have been given yet the propaganda says they are all Israel enemies worthy of death ..

 

[trophy33]

Is hamas the enemy ? (yes)
is hamas wreaking death and destruction as they can and as they have said they will continue ? (yes)
is hamas terrorists with no good thing to excuse their murders ? (yes)
So is hamas responsible for the expected retaliation against them ? (yes)

If you will ask in Palestinian streets the same questions, but use the word "Israel" instead of "hamas", you will also get yes-es.

Thats the problem. Its not one-sided. Both sides do evil to each other and no long-term solution is on the table.

 

[trophy33]

But it needs to stop, Hamas is not stopping.

Neither is Israel.

 

[dfw69]

If godless murderers are surrounding your home, seeking to break in and murder whoever they find , or to burn the whole house down killing everyone inside ,
will you call the police and give them a RATIONAL request ?

I know your rationalizing this horrific situation but that’s not what’s happening in Gaza the propoganda goes deep but truth will always come out for all to see

 

[dfw69]

Everyone who is not against them.
Everyone who is claiming that stopping hamas is wrong.

Yep a true Zionist is speaking …smh

 

[trophy33]

Do you remember who started it?

United Nations/Great Britain. Jews should be given land in Canada, USA or somewhere where they could finally live in peace, after all the history they were persecuted. But they forcibly put them in the Middle East, against the will of people in the Middle East - into another constant conflict.

 

[dfw69]

Do you remember who started it?

Yes probably paid mercenaries by Zionist to justify the genocide of Gaza .. Zionist started it a planned agenda