Should gays be allowed to adopt?

[BigBadWlf]

Only if the lies are embracing sin.

I am somewhat against adoption by those lacking the ability to know the difference between "there" and "their" however.

So lying about homosexuals and homosexuality is somehow NOT a sin?

 

[FadingWhispers3]

Should gays be allowed to adopt

Yes they should. To do otherwise is unfair to the parents and harmful to the children.

 

[BigBadWlf]

race is involuntary,

Proved published peer reviewed evidence that sexual oriention is voluntary…IE a choice

immutable,

Proved published peer reviewed evidence that sexual oriention is changeable...specifically that one can change from homosexual (Kinsey scale 6) to heterosexual (Kinsey scale 0)

and innocuous–none of which is true of homosexuality.

Proved published peer reviewed evidence that homosexuality is causationaly harmful.


Substantiate or retract

 

[Maren]

I am against adoption by homosexuals. It is wrong to force kids into houses where kids are taught not only that sin is ok but where it is glorified.

I guess we should have a perfection test before placing children in homes. Didn't Christ say something about perfection and throwing stones?

And while we are at it, I guess we need to pass laws to prohibit Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists from adopting. In fact, sounds like you need to create a test to make sure only Christians who believe as you do can adopt.

 

[Beanieboy]

I guess we should have a perfection test before placing children in homes. Didn't Christ say something about perfection and throwing stones?

And while we are at it, I guess we need to pass laws to prohibit Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists from adopting. In fact, sounds like you need to create a test to make sure only Christians who believe as you do can adopt.

I think they made a movie about this called "Boys of Brazil"

 

[TheManeki]

race is involuntary, immutable, and innocuous–none of which is true of homosexuality.

Is race really immutable, or merely a social construct? Is it genetic, or only skin-deep? You need to back up your statement, and perhaps begin by stating your definition of race.

Anyone here catch the cable channel FX's reality show Black. White. a while back? It was an interesting (if occasionally flawed) meditation on the transience of race, where makeup and prosthetic wizards made a black family appear white, a white family appear black, and then watched them in their new lives.

And then there's always the many faces of Michael Jackson. (Of course, my favorite has always been the Eddie Murphy skit.)

I don't want this to turn this thread into an argument about race. But I suspect your pronouncement on race has serious flaws -- we'll find out if you clarify and expand your statement -- which calls into doubt your assertion that homosexuality is voluntary, mutable, and harmful.

 

[NgNm]

I am against adoption by homosexuals. It is wrong to force kids into houses where kids are taught not only that sin is ok but where it is glorified.

Do you apply this logic to other things that Christianity brands sinful, atheism for exsample, or just homosexuality? Do you think that I should be legally prevented from adopting due to my teaching kids that atheism is ok?

 

[Aquamarine81]

I am against adoption by homosexuals. It is wrong to force kids into houses where kids are taught not only that sin is ok but where it is glorified.

Would you rather have a child raised by a married, heterosexual couple who would abuse or neglect them, or a homosexual couple who would love and take care of them?

I see no logical reason why homosexuals shouldn't adopt. As many children out there who need homes, why deny them a loving home with two caring parents, regardless of their sexual orientation? I guess some people would rather have these children grow up in an orphanage or foster homes..

 

[WatersMoon110]

There are thousands of children in the foster care system that desire "forever homes". I can't imagine that too many of them would turn down a set of same sex parents (I think that the children are able to turn down a set of potential adoptive parents, right?), especially if the other option was to live in various foster homes until age 18, then try to get by with little or no support. If the parents and the children both want to be a family, I don't see where the problem is.

I understand that some people worry that homosexuals will turn their children gay (even though almost all homosexuals were raised by heterosexuals - and didn't turn straight), and that some people think that learning that homosexuality isn't "sinful and harmful" is bad for children. But one can't force parents to raise children the way one wants them to (other than making it illegal to abuse and neglect them). I don't think that feeding one's child fast food every night for dinner is a good thing, but I wouldn't dream of trying to keep someone from making that choice for their child.

I'm a bisexual in an opposite sex marriage. I plan on both having biological children and adopting. I also plan on teaching my children that homosexuality is a natural and perfectly okay thing that has genetic components and isn't a choice. Should I also be banned from adopting?

 

[flicka]

I don't care who adopts if they will make good parents. I also don't care at all about the whole "they will be teased" arguements. Kids are going to get teased regardless and if their parents are the target is will be for reasons other than their sexuality. Most kids are not homophobic anyway and would just think it was interesting, if they ever thought about it at all.

 

[NeTrips]

Lot's of folks in favor of adoption by gays people.

The argument presented numerous times that a child is better off in a loving home rather than remaining as a ward of the state is flawed since it presents gay adoption as the only means of escaping state custody. It is not.

My argument is based on not intentionally forcing a child into a house where sin is accepted, practiced regularly, or celebrated. That includes abusive homes, neglectful homes, atheistic homes, adulterous home, alcoholic homes, etc. Every home is going to have negatives. Every home is going to have sin. No home is perfect. Rather than placing children into the least worse situations currently available, and saying we did the best we could even though it's not ideal, we need to work towards the ideal as hard as we can - children living in loving homes that do not embrace sin, regularly practice sin, or celebrate sin.

 

[selfinflikted]

Lot's of folks in favor of adoption by gays people.

The argument presented numerous times that a child is better off in a loving home rather than remaining as a ward of the state is flawed since it presents gay adoption as the only means of escaping state custody. It is not.

My argument is based on not intentionally forcing a child into a house where sin is accepted, practiced regularly, or celebrated. That includes abusive homes, neglectful homes, atheistic homes, adulterous home, alcoholic homes, etc. Every home is going to have negatives. Every home is going to have sin. No home is perfect. Rather than placing children into the least worse situations currently available, and saying we did the best we could even though it's not ideal, we need to work towards the ideal as hard as we can - children living in loving homes that do not embrace sin, regularly practice sin, or celebrate sin.

So, placing orphans in anyhthing other than a christian home would be wrong, amirite?

 

[NeTrips]

So, placing orphans is anyhthing other than a christian home would be wrong, amirite?

it's not ideal.

 

[selfinflikted]

it's not ideal.

In YOUR opinion. Thankfully, that's all it is.

 

[NeTrips]

In YOUR opinion. Thankfully, that's all it is.

Isn't that what each of us is posting, opinions?

 

[selfinflikted]

Isn't that what each of us is posting, opinions?

Well sure, but sometimes opinions are useful, intelligent insights. Yours however, is not.

 

[NeTrips]

thank you for your opinon.

 

[selfinflikted]

lol

My point is simply this: Ideally (if you want to use that term), a child should have a home with parents. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Not all families are the same, and certainly non are perfect. Maybe that, in and of itself, is ideal.

 

[NeTrips]

lol

My point is simply this: Ideally (if you want to use that term), a child should have a home with parents. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Not all families are the same, and certainly non are perfect. Maybe that, in and of itself, is ideal.

There needs to be some qualifying statements to your opinon "a child should have a home with parents". That opinion allows for abusive parents....

 

[IzzyPop]

It's certainly a more likely fate if they have to go through foster care.

Anyway, as to gays adopting? I don't know, honestly. On one hand, all research suggests that gays are perfectly capable parents, certainly better than foster care. On the other hand, you do have the ethical issue of children having to put up with teasing from classmates for having gay parents.

Yes, kids always tease, but kids with gay parents will certainly receive more serious teasing, since many of the kids will have redneck parents who will have given them the idea that making fun of them is the right thing to do (i.e., "Daddy told me that your parents are going to Hell!"). Teasing kids with gay parents is going to be much more venomous than teasing kids because they wear glasses.

This issue is nothing new; it happened in the civil rights movement when integration first started. We forced the black children of America to go to the frontlines of the battle for equal rights when we put them into formerly all-white schools, and they had to endure the harassment and the insults.

It's honestly a really morally ambiguous issue, and I can't say that I know for sure what the answer to it is. In the end, though, I'd say that enduring the teasing is a lot better than having to go through foster care, and in the long run, it will provide children with parents that are respected by society in the future.

Warning: Anecdotal Evidence Ahead!!!

My parents are gay. When my classmates found out, not a single one of them cared. I was never teased about it. However, some of the parents of my classmates did offer me a place to stay to get me out of such an immoral household.