Should Christians support Jews in rebuilding of Third Temple?

BlandOatmeal said:

Jesus warned his disciples, that their persecutors would kill them out of relitions zeal -- the same way the Jewish leaders were able to whip up the crowd to say, "Crucify him!"

John 16
[1] These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
[2] They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
[3] And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
[4] But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.

I don't expect a civil war in the church, which is already largely underground. The New Age religion, though, which seems to have already taken over in Europe and other places, has a tremendous hold on people who might THINK they are Christians. The morality of this religion is completely turned on it's head: Abortion and Homosexuality, for instance, are considered "good", and those who oppose these things are looked upon as "bad"; and these people are pushy and potentially violent.

I don't know how the Third Temple fits in with all this. If the Dome of the Rock is the Abomination that Maketh Desolate, it has been standing where it ought not be for 1,322 years. I certainly believe it is AN abomination, and ought to be removed out of respect for the place; but it doesn't qualify as THE abomination. I think the Jews ought to assert their right to build THEIR temple to THEIR God on THEIR land which THEY have fought for. If they do not, they are giving away their own legitimacy to exist as a people and a nation. Something mighty has to happen in the Jewish spirit, before that day dawns.

Meanwhile, I just keep following the war. The world (much of it calling itself "Christian") is siding with the Muslims and their claim to a "right" to the Temple Mount; and on the other side, the Jewish side, we have a pretty pathetic group of largely clueless people, protected by the God of the Universe. It's an uneven battle -- the world doesn't stand a chance

Shalom shalom

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BlandOatmeal said:

The only difference is that Jews squabble, whereas Christians shun and excommunicate. The only "squabbles" I get in, are a brother animatedly attacking me with scriptures, then radio silence from people I used to consider friends, then reading on Facebook about how I've become an apostate. Jews don't do that -- They live to squabble.

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Billnew said:

Run away! RUn Away!

Zombie thread back from the dead!

thread posted 2012

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BlandOatmeal said:

Let, You're trying to impose your own doctrine on the poll responders. Rebuilding the temple has nothing to do with the apocalypse -- which cannot be "hastened" except by prayer. There is not even a definite place for it in the end times, unless you bend your interpretations to accomodate such. God DID command the Jews to build it, though, and Haggai told us that it is not good for us to build homes for ourselves while letting the House of God lay in ruins (even worse, to be replaced by a pagan monument). Those are timeless instructions, not instructions for the end times only.

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JustMeSee said:

Isn't there an important mosque on that site?

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Standing_Ultraviolet said:

Why isn't there a "no, it would destroy a 1400 year old Islamic holy site" option? Seriously. It wasn't right putting it there, given the site's value to the Jews, but its construction is now just a historical fact, and its value to Muslims is high.

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14. Conclusion
"An examination and comparison between the areas and temples built throughout the Roman Empire and among the visible archeological remains in the Moriah Area, and consideration of the written testimonies and drawings lead us to the following conclusions:
The Moriah Area is not the Temple Mount built by Herod

The Moriah Area as we know it today was built by Hadrian
The Al-Aksa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock were built upon the remains of the Roman Temple.
The Temple Mount is hidden and enclosed within the Moriah Area
The Jewish Temple, or at least its remnants, exist between Al-Aksa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in the area of Al Kas fountain.

The assumption that the Moriah Area is the work of Hadrian and his successors opens before the investigators new horizons for the understanding of Jerusalem and her secrets (56)." (Tuvia Sagiv)

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Standing_Ultraviolet said:

Technically they could, but if they wanted to put it on the original temple mound, then it would have to be significantly smaller than Herod's temple. It would be more of a chapel than a temple, frankly. If anyone wants to build it, I would caution against it because of the risk presented to worshipers there (due to its highly controversial location), but I wouldn't oppose the idea on principal. I just don't think that's what most people mean when they say that they want a reconstructed temple.

Also, do most Jewish people in Israel actually want a reconstructed temple? That's something you have to ask, because frankly, I kind of think that it might be more of an apocalyptic Protestant thing. To my knowledge, I think that most modern Orthodox Jews consider the temple mount to be so holy that large parts of it are completely off limits.

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