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Kick the Bottled Water Habit
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In the movie, we learned that bottled water is not safer, or better tasting, or even more convenient, than tap water; it’s certainly not cheaper, and it generates massive amounts of needless waste. The piping, the bottling, the transportation, the greenhouse gases…it’s all unnecessary. So, on a daily basis, we don’t need bottled water, period.
As individuals, we can each stop buying it and start using reusable bottles. If you plan to purchase a bottle, we recommend stainless steel or lined aluminum. Both Food & Water Watch and Corporate Accountability International offer reusable bottles to their members. We also recommend reusing most any convenient bottle you have at hand.
If you have concerns about the quality of your tap water, or the chemicals it may contain due to treatment or to contaminants, contact your local water utility to ask for a report.
To address your concerns, there are many brands of safe, convenient home water filters you can install in your kitchen.


The Story of Bottled Water (2010) - YouTube

Making water a commodity also has some rather serious implications socially.
 
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Kick the Bottled Water Habit
SoBW.png

In the movie, we learned that bottled water is not safer, or better tasting, or even more convenient, than tap water; it’s certainly not cheaper, and it generates massive amounts of needless waste. The piping, the bottling, the transportation, the greenhouse gases…it’s all unnecessary. So, on a daily basis, we don’t need bottled water, period.
As individuals, we can each stop buying it and start using reusable bottles. If you plan to purchase a bottle, we recommend stainless steel or lined aluminum. Both Food & Water Watch and Corporate Accountability International offer reusable bottles to their members. We also recommend reusing most any convenient bottle you have at hand.
If you have concerns about the quality of your tap water, or the chemicals it may contain due to treatment or to contaminants, contact your local water utility to ask for a report.
To address your concerns, there are many brands of safe, convenient home water filters you can install in your kitchen.

HOWEVER bottled-water means you know what you're getting. Tap water has added chemicals such as fluoride.
 
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What about blueberries? how do they compare to either of these?

Sorry for the delay, but found this on container growing blueberries:

Blueberries in containers? - Container Gardening Forum - GardenWeb

http://www.davewilson.com/homegrown/promotion/bluecontainer.html

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/2554/#b

When you order your blueberries - if this is the way you buy them - ask if they have any advice on good varieties for container growing.

This place has a large selection:
http://www.raintreenursery.com/Berries/Blueberries/

If I find anything more, I'll pass it on.
 
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I have several trees in my backyard that are from Dave Wilson Nursery! DW Nursery is about 3 hours from my house north of here! The Central Valley here where I live is paradise for agriculture.

Sorry for the delay, but found this on container growing blueberries:

Blueberries in containers? - Container Gardening Forum - GardenWeb

DWN: Blueberries in Containers

Container-grown Blueberries for the Home Garden

When you order your blueberries - if this is the way you buy them - ask if they have any advice on good varieties for container growing.

This place has a large selection:
Fruit Trees, Berries, Nuts, Ornamentals, Raintree Nursery

If I find anything more, I'll pass it on.
 
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HOWEVER bottled-water means you know what you're getting. Tap water has added chemicals such as fluoride.

Both videos address your comments and claim that plastic water bottles may be quite toxic. Please watch. A few footnotes:

3. Municipal water in the U.S. is regulated by the Environmental
Protection Agency, which does frequent testing, as do local
authorities. The federal Safe Drinking Water Act empowers EPA to
require water testing by certified laboratories and that violations
be reported within a specified time frame. Public water systems
must also provide reports to customers about their water, noting its source, evidence of contaminants and compliance with regulations.

The Food and Drug Administration, on the other hand, regulates
bottled water as a food and cannot require certified lab testing or
violation reporting. FDA monitors the labeling of bottled water, but
the bottlers themselves are responsible for testing – kind of like
the fox guarding the henhouse. Furthermore, FDA doesn’t require
bottled water companies to disclose where the water came from,
how it was treated or what contaminants it contains. For a good
article on the topic, see The New York Times, “Fewer Regulations for
Bottled Water Than Tap, GAO Says,” at The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia
gwire/2009/07/09/09greenwire-fewer-regulations-for-bottled-water-than-tap-g-33331.html
In a survey of 188 brands of bottled water, the Environmental
Working Group (EWG) found only two providing such information
about its product to consumers. Based on extensive research and
testing, EWG developed a “bottled water scorecard” where you
can compare brands, and learn more about the process of testing,
labeling, and marketing bottled water: Health/Toxics | Environmental Working Group
report/bottledwater-scorecard-summary

13. An article of July 27, 2007 on CNN.Money.com said: “Pepsi-Cola
announced Friday that the labels of its Aquafina brand bottled water
will be changed to make it clear the product is tap water. The new bottles will say, ‘The Aquafina in this bottle is purified water that
originates from a public water source,’ or something similar, Pepsi-
Cola North America spokeswoman Nicole Bradley told CNN. Coca-
Cola does not have plans to change the labeling on its Dasani brand
bottled water, a company spokesman told CNN, despite the fact the
water also comes from a public water supply.” Read the article, here:
Pepsi says[bless and do not curse]Aquafina is tap water - Jul. 27, 2007
Now, the companies go to great length to tell you that, while their
water originates from a public water source, it is more than “just filtered
tap water.” They boast proprietary, state-of-the-art, multi-stage
filtration processes and esoteric references to mineral additives that
make their water more than just water, and certainly better than tap.
But, as Tony Clarke of Canada’s Polaris Institute points out in his
book, Inside the Bottle (2005), “unlike other resource production
processes, where raw materials like timber, minerals, and oil are
transformed into new products, bottled water is different. Bottled
water is about ‘turning water into water.’” (Inside the Bottle, 54.)

27. At the heart of the water issues is the fact that literally billions
of people around the world – including in parts of the U.S.
and other rich countries – do not have access to safe drinking
water. The causes are complex, including both man-made
political and economic causes, and natural causes; in short,
it might be the water, it might be the pipes – or it might be
the lack of water or the lack of pipes. In either case, selling
bottled water (or even giving it away as some companies
and organizations do as part of relief efforts in emergencies),
will not fix the problem. The real fix is more public investment
in water infrastructure, and community control of that
infrastructure to ensure that the poorest and most vulnerable
communities have their needs met. Even in places where both
tourists and locals are urged to “not drink the water,” the
long-term solution is not to avoid tap water – but to make the
tap water safe to drink. Yes, this solution will cost money, but
at least its an investment in something permanent, and that
benefits everyone.

http://www.storyofstuff.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/storyofbottledwater_footnoted_script.pdf
 
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I think that the bottle water has bacteria, arsenic etc... But the way to get the fluoride off is by negative osmosis... filter. It can be installed in your focet I know...

You unfortunately do not know what is bottled... On the contrary you can test your tap water and you can also use a filter to take away any impurities.

The bottles also are polluting the sea...
 
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I think that the bottle water has bacteria, arsenic etc... But the way to get the fluoride off is by negative osmosis... filter. It can be installed in your focet I know...

You unfortunately do not know what is bottled... On the contrary you can test your tap water and you can also use a filter to take away any impurities.

The bottles also are polluting the sea...

Why would you want to get the fluoride out of the water? It is pretty effective at preventing tooth decay. I get all my drinking water from a Brita pitcher filled at the kitchen sink.
 
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There is some contraversy regarding the fluoride. I know about Britta I used to have that pitcher too...and thinking if that buying a better filtration system for the sink would be a better idea...Although our new fridge has also its own filter...
In the end you do not know what to believe and who...
For sure giving up the bottled water is not a bad idea. Why pay for water in such a high price while it is not that healthy to start up with.
Anyhow back to the topic lol....
 
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There is some contraversy regarding the fluoride. I know about Britta I used to have that pitcher too...and thinking if that buying a better filtration system for the sink would be a better idea...Although our new fridge has also its own filter...
In the end you do not know what to believe and who...
For sure giving up the bottled water is not a bad idea. Why pay for water in such a high price while it is not that healthy to start up with.
Anyhow back to the topic lol....

There isn't really any controversy about fluoride. Scientifically, fluoride is just fine, but of course like all the other anti-medicine movements there will be conspiracy theories on the internet. But yeah, anyways.
 
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Why would you want to get the fluoride out of the water? It is pretty effective at preventing tooth decay. I get all my drinking water from a Brita pitcher filled at the kitchen sink.

Actually the evidence for that is not conclusive.

That people have changed their diets and improved their dental care anyway, will have affected this.

I have no 'conspiracy' over fluoride I simply like to know what I'm drinking.... ie. choosing what's in my water.

However to say that there is no controversy over it is not true. It is only practiced in a very few countries.
Water fluoridation controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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There isn't really any controversy about fluoride. Scientifically, fluoride is just fine, but of course like all the other anti-medicine movements there will be conspiracy theories on the internet. But yeah, anyways.

The problem I have is instead of getting water, and taking stuff out they're adding something that is not over-all necessary for the treatment of water itself.
 
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HOWEVER bottled-water means you know what you're getting. Tap water has added chemicals such as fluoride.

There are a lot more regulations about tap water than bottled. And sitting around in a plastic bottle for who knows how long is a great way to leach chemicals and have bacteria grow.
 
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i fear it is all too expensive for me at the moment... :(

How about community gardens or if your parish has some idle area, turn into garden? Excess produce can be sold or donated. Maybe a few others like you can go in together. Many more ideas out there. Some might require a little sunshine and exercise. :)
 
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Actually the evidence for that is not conclusive.

That people have changed their diets and improved their dental care anyway, will have affected this.

I have no 'conspiracy' over fluoride I simply like to know what I'm drinking.... ie. choosing what's in my water.

However to say that there is no controversy over it is not true. It is only practiced in a very few countries.
Water fluoridation controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is a strong correlation in the US between tooth decay and lack of flouride.

But, I would say more importantly thatn flouride is working to dispell the myth that little kids need juice or that juice is really that healthy. If we add vitamin C and other nutrients to sodas (which they can do and I am surprised it has happened yet, to fool the masses into thinking that now there is such thing as healthy pop) they would be about as healthy for our children. I'm not saying it's evil for our little kids to have juice in moderation but it's really not any healthier than a so-called fruit-snack.

I didn't realize this until we had kids and my wife learned about this. The amount of sugar in juices compared to the depletion of nutrients that is otherwise in real fruit is amazing. There is honestly not that much that separate Sprite from OJ or Apple Juice. A little... but not enough to justify the amount of juice our kids drink.

I will say this for any parents-to-be. Your kids don't miss it if they've never had it or at the very least if you train them that that is a treat. For our kid, juice is a treat they have a grandma and grandpas house. We never give him chocolate milk either. But, so people dont' think I am a complete judgmental jerk, I totally get that some kids are harder than others to get them to eat stuff and you just have to feed them what they will eat. So far, we;ve been blessed on this front. Chocolate milk for some has been a blessing because their kids would never get their calcium. So I get why SOME need to turn to that. But I will also say that if we introduced it to our kid as an option he would ALWAYS want chocolate milk and would whine about regular milk. Smae with juice.

But seriously, before I had kids, my wife and I were much mroe ideal about how we would raise them. Now we choose the battles we feel are most important that we are best able to fight without going mad. lol So again, I am totally not judging parents who give their kids juice or chocolate milk. In the end, the truth is that some of our most successful peopel have had a diet of chocolate milk, non-organic grapes from chile, lucky charms and hate salads. What mattered more, in my opinion was having parents that loved their kids, taught them to be active and value integrity above all.

Josh
 
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I go to the Farmer's market here when produce is in season every Friday and I love it. I eat lots of fruits and vegetables so it's terrific and the atmosphere is great and a lot of fun. As well, we have stands in a couple places in our town in the summer time that sell produce etc and you can get great stuff there as well. When you know the people growing the food it's an extra bonus especially if it's organic. Oh yeah, and there's a strawberry farm I also go to. I just love being out there in the outdoors and I can pick what I want so I get good quality. Plus it's a great way to move around and get some sun.
 
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