Sexy 2

[Flibbertigibbet]

I actually think women overall are the lucky ones as far as looks go though... I'll explain... We're all a little vein, men and women, and we all want to look good (most of us anyway).

You have a naturally attractive male and a naturally attractive female. Neither are going to have to make much of an effort to look great, so lucky them.

Then you have the average looking male and the average looking female. The average looking female can still make herself look stunning with the help of cosmetics, I'm not so sure if the average looking male can, he'll generally look weird or alternative if he goes for the makeup option, probably not sexy to most people.

Then you have an ugly male and an ugly female... The ugly male is screwed, his options on making himself look good are severely limited, the chances are he'll live his life with little or no attention from the opposite sex, fewer friends (unless he has an outstanding personality or money), he might get depressed, maybe even commit suicide. The ugly female on the other hand with the right makeup can still make herself look pretty presentable if she decides she wants to make the effort. She doesn't have to, but at least she has that option! The guy is mainly stuck with his ugliness!

Some will say that makeup doesn't actually make women look sexier, they might be right in some cases but I'm not quite buying that in general. Here are some celebrities without makeup, how many look better? http://www.topsocialite.com/celebrities-without-makeup/

Bear in mind, this is only really facial looks I'm talking about. Facial looks are probably the first thing most people notice, so if you're trying to work out what is sexy, the face might be the place to start. There are lots of other kinds of sexy of course, sometimes it's just a person's mannerisms, or their accent, their body, personality, money to some, the list goes on...

If anyone disagrees with anything I've said, as you might, I'm all ears!

I think they can fix that surgically now.

Seriously though - what you think is ugly is not necessarily someone else's opinion. I can think of several friends who have commented that they find certain men attractive who hold absolutely ZERO appeal to me.

 

[stan1980]

I think they can fix that surgically now.

Seriously though - what you think is ugly is not necessarily someone else's opinion. I can think of several friends who have commented that they find certain men attractive who hold absolutely ZERO appeal to me.

True, it is subjective, I was talking in a general sense though, there is normally a consensus of who has a physically attractive face and who hasn't, not everyone will agree with the consensus though, that goes without saying!

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

True, it is subjective, I was talking in a general sense though, there is normally a consensus of who has a physically attractive face and who hasn't, not everyone will agree with the consensus though, that goes without saying!

For which I am very grateful.

 

[Verv]

I think there is probably more pressure, but still not that much pressure. I don't really do a lot to make myself look good apart from buy clothes that fit me and exercise sometimes... even then, that's not too look, so there can't be that much pressure on me, but that's just my own perspective.

I think the pressure on men is to get a good job, and not be a "bum" so that he can provide, the pressure on women is more to look good. I don't think that's a new thing, that's probably been the case for thousands of years.

I agree with this, overall. Good job.

Men need to have good jobs to support families because I think even subconsciously a woman still views the man as a primary breadwinner.

Men are protectors in a sense... At least, that is how dad was viewed.

Is there a reason you picked out women rather than people in general? Men try to look sexy, too, and many do it quite well if I might say so.

I may focus on women and sexiness because as a male I do not find men sexy. I do not know, though.

Personally, I don't think it is morally upright to TRY to give people a metaphorical (or a literal) hard-on unless that other person is your spouse. I would never, however, go so far as to try and outline what exact clothes or accessories, behaviors or gestures are appropriate and not. I think the intention is more important and that ultimately good intentions will result in good behavior.

Exactly.

 

[cantata]

I am glad that you do. On some levels the superficial is appealing because it is simple and easy to understand.

But the second we are being superficially immoral by ignoring others and by glorifying the vain, superficiality is a disease on the spirit of the person.

Certainly superficiality at the expense of love is not something I like very much.

Why is sexiness a virtue?

I don't regard it as a virtue. Do you?

I try not to think about sex unless it is in the context of marriage.

1. Finding someone sexy is not the same as thinking about sex.
2. My point was that you said you don't think sexiness is important, and then you said you find intelligent women sexy. It's like you were assuming that no one else feels the same way. No one here has said (as far as I can see) that you can only be sexy by looking good.

Do you think that it is shifting at all? I think the balance will always have it more emphasized for women but I think that it has dramatically become more important for men since the dawn of the 1990s.

I blame Zack Morris from Saved By The Bell.

The '90s?! Good grief. Doesn't this immediately alert you to the extent to which your view is clouded by your own cultural and historical perspective?

 

[Nihilismus]

No, the pursuit of natural behavior is not wrong but the overindulgence in base, animalistic behaviors is wrong.

Base, animalistic behavior is natural by definition...

Why is sexiness a virtue?

In terms of natural selection, the ability to successfully attract a mate is a virtue toward the survival of the species.