Seventh-day Adventists affirm "sola scriptura testing" AND The 1Cor 12 gift of prophecy

[BobRyan]

Of course not Bob. I complain that you see satan as taking on the sins of God's people and paying the price of those sins when Jesus already did.

You already admit that the wicked take on the suffering for their own sins even though Jesus "already did it" and that when the wicked suffer they are saving no one and reducing the guilt of no one.

You already admitted that Satan is the source for all sin - in heaven and Earth.

We already see in Lev 16:15 that the sin offering is made BEFORE anything at all is done with the scapegoat - and there is no such thing as your mythical "reduce the sin offering payment by whatever is going on with the scapegoat" in Lev 16.

You already admit that Adventist believe Jesus's death "sin offering" pays for all the suffering of all mankind in all ages for all sins.

You have shot your own argument in the foot.

a wicked "satan" suffering for sin and a wicked human suffering for sin are the same in that none of that reduces the guilt of anyone.

The point remains.

 

[BobRyan]

BobRyan said: ↑
Indeed for example a great "sola scriptura testing" command is found in Isaiah 8:20
"20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

That was not a statement saying that Isaiah 8:21 cannot possibly be of God since it does not occur before Isaiah 8:20. Nor does it say every Bible text after Isaiah 8:20 provides no more information, no more detail than all of scripture up to Isaiah 8:20

Is that the complete test of a prophet?

That is one of them -- in Matt 7 we have another "By their fruits you shall know them"

15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes, nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

24 “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.​

 

[tall73]

food for thought.

Your title said you believe in Sola Scriptura testing, and the prophetic gift. Hence we were applying scripture testing to Ellen White, who's writings your church sees as inspired, and sends out to people all across the world (though you claim they can't understand them).

Now you went back and edited this into your thread today:

Very well Bob, I will now not be able to discuss how Ellen White doesn't match up with Scripture in this thread, per your edit.

But anyone reading this thread will see scripture was discussed at length. And none of the Scriptures show satan taking on the sins of God's people. Jesus did that. And none of them show satan removing all sin from the dwelling place of God's people. Jesus did that.

Now are you going to edit something in that prevents you and LGW from appealing to Jewish tradition when you don't have a Bible text? Or are you going to tell LGW that satanists are not a good source for scripture testing, as he is keen on asserting their views as evidence?

 

[tall73]

I think you can't make your case from the Bible and also can't make it with those who have actually read the sources ... so you choose to present your "All Ellen White" posts to non-SDAs

Bob, are you going to bear false witness? I think anyone reading this far in the thread saw me discussing Scripture with you, and you appealing to Jewish tradition to make your point, and LGW appelaing to satanists to make his point.

I do not post Ellen White all the time. We discussed many scriptures.

I post Ellen White when Adventists don't want to deal with what she actually said. And I post Ellen White to show the Adventist position, because they believe her inspired. And I post Ellen White in a thread on scripture testing and the prophetic gift to see whether she matches that.

But I don't post her to uphold my views, in the way that you and LGW posted Jewish tradition to uphold your view, or as LGW referred to satanist thought in support of his view.

 

[tall73]

I provided my response in the post you are quoting from that you are seeking to hand waive away here from the scriptures by stating that it's application here in context to our discussion is in regards to the type and anti-types of the great day of atonement (the yearly ministration of the Priesthood) in the most holy place of the Sanctuary for the final atonement of cleansing of sin through blood sacrifice) is only opened to those who through repentance of sin and confession of sin and transference of sin through blood sacrifice (paying the penalty of sin) and blood atonement in the daily sin offerings and collectively through "the Lords goat" with intercession of Great High Priest and blood atonement for God's forgiveness of sin.

This links directly to the three angels messages of Revelation 14:6-12 and also to Revelation 18:1-5. Where God calls all His people to come out from following man-made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God and return to his Word. This of course is all over worship. Who do we choose to worship? God or man? For is calling us all to "Remember" the Sabbath day to keep it holy and the hour of his judgment is come: and to worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. *Revelation 14:6. If any man worship the Beast and his image (Sunday worship) they will receive the Mark of the Beast. This takes place only once worship is enforced by civil law (Revelation 13).

Only those who keep the commandments of God are Gods' saints according to the scriptures here (Revelation 14:12) and enter in though the gates into Gods city *Revelation 22:14. If we reject God's Word in order to continue in known unrepentant sin God will reject us and we will have our lot with the wicked.

What was it that you did not agree with in my comment on that quote and the scriptures provided here?

Take Care.

I wanted you to clarify what she said about the one sentence. But Bob has put a gag order on that now. No more applying Scripture to Ellen White in this thread, though it is a thread on Scripture testing and the prophetic gift. So by all means, don't answer.

 

[tall73]

Great thank you for this and I fully agree with your answer here. So according to the scriptures shared with you if Satan tempts us to sin is he held accountable to God for leading us into sin?

Yes, very much. He bears an incredible load of guilt for temptation, leading us into sin, etc.

Isn't this simply a spin on words for backtracking in your original response that says that God holds us accountable for leading others into sin?

No, not at all, He is responsible for leading people into sin.

He is not responsible for your sin that you led yourself into.

Jas 1:14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

The devil didn't make you do all of your sin. The Scriptures say that you were tempted when you were lured by what? Your own desire. satan certainly tempts, and is certainly going to pay for it. But not all of your sin is his doing.

The point I am making here is that if according to the scriptures God holds any of us accountable for leading (tempting) His children (those who believe and follow God's Word) away from Gods' Word into sin. How can he now hold Satan accountable for leading Gods' people into sin through tempting them to sin? Your view is not consistent with scripture is it?

He DOES hold satan responsible for leading people into sin, tempting, etc. Those are his sins. But you have sins that you didn't need satan there tempting you at all to commit, per James;

Jas 1:14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.
Jas 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

Agreed this is simply an EGW statement that is agreeing with everything that is being shared with you from the scriptures so far in this thread with application to the great day of atonement and Leviticus 16. So your point here is?

But of course, satan pays for his sins, including temptation. He doesn't pay for all the sins of God's people. satan didn't make you do all of your sins LGW.

Jas 1:14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.
Jas 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

 

[tall73]

Tall - your avoidance of sola scriptura responses on this subject in favor of your "all Ellen White all the time" agenda is not serving you well.


There is obviously a “doubling” principle when it comes to sin’s just recompense.

Rev 18:
4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive any of her plagues; 5 for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her offenses. 6 Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her.

Yes, according to HER deeds.

Is 40:
1 “Comfort, comfort My people,” says your God.
2 “Speak kindly to Jerusalem; And call out to her, that her warfare has ended,
That her guilt has been removed, That she has received of the Lord’s hand Double for all her sins.”

Yes, according to HER sins.

Jer 16:
17 For My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from My face, nor is their wrongdoing concealed from My eyes. 18 I will first repay them double for their wrongdoing and their sin,

Yes, double for THEIR wrongdoing.

Regardless of how this is measured to the wicked – we can obviously see “double payment” of suffering for sin in the case of the wicked.

For their own deeds Bob.

satan can pay double for all his sins, or even more if that is what God determines is just.

But that does not say that satan pays for all the sins of God's people. Jesus did that for all. The wicked reject it and pay for their own sins. satan pays for his own sins, including temptation.

And the people of God trust in Christ their Savior and substitute and He pays their penalty. satan never could, being sinful and paying his own penalty.

Not all of your sins are satan's doing Bob:

Jas 1:14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.
Jas 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

Sometimes the devil didn't make you do it Bob. You did it. And praise God Jesus paid for it, and if you accept it He is your substitute.

1. 1 John 2:2 Christ pays as the “atoning sacrifice for our sins and not for our sins but for the sins of the whole world” – so then "whole world" which means it includes paying for the wicked.

Of course. They rejected the payment.

2. Rev 20:13-15 – shows the wicked suffer for their own debt of sin even though Christ already paid for it. Double suffering .

Yes, their own sin. Not all the sins of God's people, Bob. Jesus already did that.

3. Note: The suffering of the wicked is always without salvific merit and lessens no one’s guilt.

Agreed, the suffering of the wicked does not save, or lesson anyone's guilt.

Lev 16 in the cases of the scapegoat we see the same sins already fully atoned for with the sin offering and the High Priest mediation in the sanctuary – yet this is also suffered by the wicked.

Agreed, they rejected the One who died for them. They pay the price for their sins, though they could have accepted the sacrifice and not paid the price.

Lev 16: (The SCAPEGOAT)
20 “When he finishes atoning for the Holy Place and the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall offer the live goat. 21 Then Aaron shall lay both of his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the wrongdoings of the sons of Israel and all their unlawful acts regarding all their sins; and he shall place them on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a man who stands ready. 22 Then the goat shall carry on itself all their wrongdoings to an isolated territory; he shall release the goat in the wilderness.

26 The one who released the goat as the scapegoat shall wash his clothes and bathe his body with water; then afterward he shall come into the camp. (Because unlike the sin offering - the scapegoat defiles those that touch it while it is alive)

The scapegoat can only represent a wicked entity since it ceremonially “defiles” those that touch it in Lev 16 once sins are placed on it.

The scapegoat carries sin from the camp. So of course sin being removed would defile. That is why it needs to be removed.

As much as you try to blame this work for "all the sins" already fully covered in the previous "sin offering" Lev 16:15 - on Ellen White - scripture is clear.

Bob, I am not allowed to discuss Ellen White here due to your edit now. You don't want to discuss Scripture testing of claimed prophets in your thread on scripture testing and the prophetic gift, and I will accept that.

We agree Scripture is clear Jesus pays the price of our sins. And satan, being sinful can't pay for the sins of God's people. He will certainly pay for his own sins, even double or more, as God sees fit.

Obviously your arguments for blaming this work done for all the sins of the people with yet another offering AFTER the fully completed "sin offering" in vs 15 - on Ellen White... leaves you missing key details in scripture that you could have seen had you been more open to sola scriptura based study on this point.

Bob, I can't discuss Ellen White in your thread on scripture testing and the prophetic gift because you don't want Ellen White tested.


But Scripture certainly does not say that satan removes sin from the dwelling of God's people. Jesus does.

Scripture certainly does not say that satan bears the sins of God's people. It says Jesus does.

 

[tall73]

You already admitted that Satan is the source for all sin - in heaven and Earth.

Hey Bob, satan may have invented sin. But you still sin apart from satan. You are a sinner bob. The devil didn't always make you do it,

Jas 1:14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.
Jas 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

Christ died for your sins, paying the price, and if you accept that substitute HE pays for all your sins, even the ones satand didn't make you do.

satan can't do that. he pays for his own sins. he is a sinner without a substitute.

 

[tall73]

Hello Bob.

You stated the following verse in post #2.

The washing and sprinkling refers to the daily service where the sinner is confessing sins and being cleansed as a result of the work of Christ - as High Priest in the sanctuary - which is the daily service.

Not sure what you are trying to say in that verse?

Hebrews 10:11-14
Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet. For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.

Christ's atonement was perfect and offered for all sin and forever.

How can there be a daily service for sin?

Yes, he has no need

Heb 7:27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself.

He already completed the blood ministration. Now He just applies the benefits as we come to Him.

 

[tall73]

You are exposed on that point since we both know that SDAs here have had years to read the material she wrote - and your readers only git "snips" and spin-doctoring.

Sorry Bob, you just edited your thread. I can't respond to posts about Ellen White who your church loves so much that they send her writings to homes all over the world, though they can't understand it.

This may be why you object to my choice of sticking with the Bible.

Um Bob....now I don't want to push the point since you outlawed discussion of Ellen White but you just testified you don't stick with the Bible. You have spent years reading Ellen White, and therefore can understand her, but those who haven't spent years cannot understand her, which is why they send her writings to so many of them.

Now I agree, you don't want me to post Ellen White statements in a thread about Scripture testing and the prophetic gift, so you wish to weed Ellen White out of these conversations. But then you go back and read her over many years.

you have no quote at all from Ellen White saying " pray that your sins are confessed on the head of satan as your sinless substitute" - and we both know it. The wicked can never be a "sin offering" because they can not lesson anyone's debt/guilt.

And satan can never bear the sins of God's people. Jesus already did.
satan bears his own sin.

A perfect example of your exposing the flaw in your own argument. The above is not quote from anything Ellen White ever published and you know it - but your readers do not. You rely on those that read you not having enough background in the things you quote. It is a private letter that most generations of SDAs would not have seen - yet you throw it up to non-SDAs "as if" -- you think "everything Ellen White said at the dinner table was inspired".

Bob, I would love to discuss all the details of that with you, but you know, Bob's rules.

Not even your "stack of books" picture for Ellen White's writtings - includes the things you toss out for non-SDAs.

Good thing this is a "sola scriptura" thread.

Yes, good thing you edited, or I could answer your allegations you made after editing your thread to prevent me from responding.

If you grant me an exemption I would answer even now. Just don't edit your exemption later.

 

[tall73]

You are exposed on that point since we both know that SDAs here have had years to read the material she wrote - and your readers only git "snips" and spin-doctoring..

I am not familiar with the Bible test that only those who have spent years reading a claimed prophet can test them by Scripture.

 

[tall73]

No, absolutely not at all. I absolutely have followed Leafs statement very well. The scapegoat can only represent Jesus or Satan right?

He has said he doesn't think that. So if you followed his statements well, how have you not picked up on that?

Who else can the scapegoat represent?

Did he allege it was a who?

For instance, some see the goat as a means of conveyance of sin out of the camp, so not representing a "who" at all, other than a goat.

Now plenty of evidence has been provided supporting the view that "the scapegoat" (Azazel; "remove" "fallen angel") represents Jesus.

@Leaf473 said he didn't think it was strong.

Nothing has been provided that shows Jesus is "the scapegoat" (Azazel; "remove" "fallen angel"). In fact this view is impossible according to the scriptures. So who else can "the scapegoat" (Azazel; "remove" "fallen angel") represent?

See above. He didn't allege it had to be Jesus. He in fact said that was a false dichotomy. How did you not notice that if you are following his statements carefully?

 

[tall73]

tall73 said: ↑

If he was not convinced your evidence is strong, why would he have to present anything? He is evaluating your argument, and your evidence, that you presented. That requires no presentation on his part.

I am sorry dear friend but I respectfully disagree with you. If you make a claim something is not true or cannot be true then that is something you need to be able to show why it is not true.

He made a claim that you haven't proven it was true. He said it was your contention and you have the burden of proof. You feel you met that. He doesn't. He is not required to do anything regarding that.

Yet we are not talking about one of individual links here but all these collective links that are all in agreement together just making the evidence stronger. What has been provided in response to disprove the above? - Nothing!

He doesn't need to provide evidence against your view for you to fail to convince him of your view. He just has to assess that your evidence is not sufficient to prove your point.

Now if you want to schedule a formal debate, or wish to draw from him some affirmative or negative position that you want him to defend, then propose that. If he agreed to those terms he would then have the burden of proof.

 

[tall73]

IAnyhow of course you are free to believe as you wish. For the record though, I do not know a single SDA that interprets those EGW statements you have provided the way you do. Funny that. Yet here you are telling everyone what we believe that in actual fact no one believes accept you. Even @BobRyan told you this.

I can't discuss Ellen White's statement here now by Bob's rule, so I can't look at the details. You may want to limit your discussion too so as to not run afoul of Bob's edited in his OP.

But I will note that far from disagreeing with you, I agree. Most Adventists of course do not believe what Ellen White said on this matter. And they should not!

But they are in the very awkward position of defending what she said nonetheless, because they hold her writings to be inspired. Which is why they try very hard to change what she said on some points, claim they are being twisted, and run from her statements, and don't want them to be discussed on a thread about testing things by scripture, and discussing the prophetic gift.

Do I think Adventists believe satan pays the price for their sins? No, not most Adventists. Do I believe that Adventists don't actually want to discuss what Ellen White wrote on the matter, because it is in fact quite disturbing? Yes, I believe that. And it is plain to those reading the thread. And it is why Bob, who admits that some like him who have read Ellen White for years, don't want to discuss her here, even though they think she is inspired, and want to see her writings spread everywhere.

 

[pasifika]

You are exposed on that point since we both know that SDAs here have had years to read the material she wrote - and your readers only git "snips" and spin-doctoring.

This may be why you object to my choice of sticking with the Bible.



you have no quote at all from Ellen White saying " pray that your sins are confessed on the head of satan as your sinless substitute" - and we both know it. The wicked can never be a "sin offering" because they can not lesson anyone's debt/guilt.

A perfect example of your exposing the flaw in your own argument. The above is not quote from anything Ellen White ever published and you know it - but your readers do not. You rely on those that read you not having enough background in the things you quote. It is a private letter that most generations of SDAs would not have seen - yet you throw it up to non-SDAs "as if" -- you think "everything Ellen White said at the dinner table was inspired".

Not even your "stack of books" picture for Ellen White's writtings - includes the things you toss out for non-SDAs.

Good thing this is a "sola scriptura" thread.

Hello Bob, so why do you need EG White writings, since you already have the bible???
Then stick to the bible let the Holy Spirit teach you Not a woman who is Not a Prophet or an Apostles etc...

I think you and your fellow followers promoting EG White Not the Bible..

 

[BobRyan]

Hello Bob, so why do you need EG White writings, since you already have the bible???

Because of what the Bible "says". It is not enough to just "have" the Bible - we have to note what it "says".

Because God's Word says to test prophets Matt 7, 1 John 4:1-3 and to listen to them. 2 Chron 20:20
Because God says in His Word "He does nothing except He reveals it to His servants the prophets" Amos 3:7
Because God's Word says "desire earnestly spiritual gifts - but especially that you may prophesy" 1 Cor 14:1
Because the Bible says that before every major Salvation history Crisis He sends a last-minute just-in-time prophet.
Gen 6 - Noah before the flood.
John 1 - John before the Messiah

And now we come to the time of the second coming.

Because we have found Bible doctrine to be true and the Messages God gave Ellen White for the church are in harmony with Bible doctrine.

Then stick to the bible let the Holy Spirit teach you

Exactly.

The Bible teaches us to test prophets and to listen to them. 2 Chron 20:20
The Bible teaches us to "He does nothing except He reveals it to His servants the prophets"
The Bible teaches us to "desire earnestly spiritual gifts - but especially that you may prophesy" 1 Cor 14:1
Because the Bible says that before every major Salvation history Crisis He sends a last-minute just-in-time prophet.
Gen 6 - Noah before the flood.
John 1 - John before the Messiah

I think you and your fellow followers promoting Ellen White Not the Bible..

You have free will - you can accuse anyone of anything you wish.

 

[BobRyan]

I can't discuss Ellen White's statement here now by Bob's rule, so I can't look at the details. .

You have ton's of Ellen White quotes here - even from things she never published at all - far more than anyone else here -- so now having time on the subject of what scripture teaches in this "sola scriptura thread" should be at least "possible".

 

[BobRyan]

some see the goat as a means of conveyance of sin out of the camp, so not representing a "who" at all, other than a goat.

hmm a "goat symbol" that represents itself... "a goat"?? an actual goat????

 

[BobRyan]

Most Adventists of course do not believe what Ellen White said on this matter. And they should not!
.

1. Most Adventist read her published works - not so much your interest in her "unpublished" comments and letters.

2. Most Adventists do not agree that the symbols in Lev 16 "goats" are not there to "represent goats" but rather are types - and they represent an anti-type as is the case with all types and symbols.

3. Most Adventists admit that Christ paid a full and complete atoning sacrifice for all sins of all mankind as we find in 1 John 2:2 and this is what we see symbolized in the case of the sin offering in Lev 16:15 slain before the Sanctuary ministry and the sanctuary service judgment completes before anything at all is done with the Scapegoat.

4. Most Adventists agree that even though Christ paid for all sins - yet even so the wicked pay the suffering debt of their own sins - which relieves/lessens the guilt of no one since the suffering of the wicked are not salvific and save no one.

5. Most Adventists agree that Satan is wicked no matter how much suffering he endures at the end of time.

Details that Ellen White's statements also affirm.

6. Most Adventists do not object to this Bible teaching about the payment/punishment of "double"


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There is obviously a “doubling” principle when it comes to sin’s just recompense.

Rev 18:
4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive any of her plagues; 5 for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her offenses. 6 Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her.

Is 40:
1 “Comfort, comfort My people,” says your God.
2 “Speak kindly to Jerusalem; And call out to her, that her warfare has ended,
That her guilt has been removed, That she has received of the Lord’s hand Double for all her sins.”

Jer 16:
17 For My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from My face, nor is their wrongdoing concealed from My eyes. 18 I will first repay them double for their wrongdoing and their sin,

Regardless of how this is measured to the wicked – we can obviously see “double payment” of suffering for sin in the case of the wicked.

1. 1 John 2:2 Christ pays as the “atoning sacrifice for our sins and not for our sins but for the sins of the whole world” – so then "whole world" which means it includes paying for the wicked.
2. Rev 20:13-15 – shows the wicked suffer for their own debt of sin even though Christ already paid for it. Double suffering .
3. Note: The suffering of the wicked is always without salvific merit and lessens no one’s guilt.

Lev 16 in the cases of the scapegoat we see the same sins already fully atoned for with the sin offering and the High Priest mediation in the sanctuary – yet this is also suffered by the wicked.

Lev 16: (The SCAPEGOAT)
20 “When he finishes atoning for the Holy Place and the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall offer the live goat. 21 Then Aaron shall lay both of his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the wrongdoings of the sons of Israel and all their unlawful acts regarding all their sins; and he shall place them on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a man who stands ready. 22 Then the goat shall carry on itself all their wrongdoings to an isolated territory; he shall release the goat in the wilderness.

26 The one who released the goat as the scapegoat shall wash his clothes and bathe his body with water; then afterward he shall come into the camp. (Because unlike the sin offering - the scapegoat defiles those that touch it while it is alive)

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Most Adventists believe that the scapegoat is not a "sin offering" which means it is not a symbol of Christ - and agree with the Bible that it contaminates the one that touches it - so again "not a symbol of Christ"

============== so then

The scapegoat can only represent a wicked entity since it ceremonially “defiles” those that touch it in Lev 16 once sins are placed on it.

The scapegoat ceremonially defiles “ makes unclean” the person that touches it once sin is place on it.

Lev 16: 26 And he that let go the goat for the scapegoat shall wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in water, and afterward come into the camp..

The substitutionary death of Christ for "all the sins" was already fully covered in the previous "sin offering" Lev 16:15 -

Lev 16:15 “Then he shall slaughter the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, and bring its blood inside the veil and do with its blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the atoning cover and in front of the atoning cover. 16 He shall make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the impurities of the sons of Israel and because of their unlawful acts regarding all their sins; and he shall do so for the tent of meeting which remains with them in the midst of their impurities.​

And "yet" the Lev 16:26 remains to be done instead of simply "ending the chapter in vs 25." God's word matters so we read and accept it.
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[BobRyan]

Your title said you believe in Sola Scriptura testing, and the prophetic gift. Hence we were applying scripture testing to Ellen White,

Then it's time to present your scriptures after all these pages on the subject