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Well, to attack wrong behavior is not wrong. If you see an innocent child getting beat up, your action to try and stop it is not wrong.

Anways, God and His Word and His morality are true and therefore that means folks who deny God and His Word are going against God's goodness and they are holding onto their sin. Therefore, in conclusion: The atheist's motivation is sinful and not 100% selfless as they would like for us Christians to believe. Their motives are not pure. For God's Word sets the standard of goodness whereby the atheist has never lived such a good life like that before. Bad language, wrong sexual thoughts, hate, unforgiveness, are just but some of the sins that control the lives of atheists.


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Well, to attack wrong behavior is not wrong. If you see an innocent child getting beat up, your action to try and stop it is not wrong.

Anways, God and His Word and His morality are true and therefore that means folks who deny God and His Word are going against God's goodness and they are holding onto their sin. Therefore, in conclusion: The atheist's motivation is sinful and not 100% selfless as they would like for us Christians to believe. Their motives are not pure. For God's Word sets the standard of goodness whereby the atheist has never lived such a good life like that before. Bad language, wrong sexual thoughts, hate, unforgiveness, are just but some of the sins that control the lives of atheists.

As somebody once said:

"When you have finished with the Lord's judgement seat, he would quite like it back."


Or if you prefer it from the pages of the Bible:

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
 
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No dear sir. Your motivation is not without selfish motives. If God and His Word is correct, that means you would have to give up some kind of sin (And in loving the ways of this world and it's thinking which runs contrary to God and His Word) and repent of your sins and walk uprightly. Seeing you are not willing to do these things, you are not without selfish motives, dear sir. You may say that you are fighting against Christianity so as to be superman (Who fights for truth and seeks to put down evil, injustice, and bad guys), but we both know that this is not the case.


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Rather than pretend you understand my motives better than I, you could just ask.
 
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Rather than pretend you understand my motives better than I, you could just ask.

Again, I do not have to pretend I know all of your motives all on my own power or abilities alone. The Bible tells me the motives and actions of the atheist and they are not good. But yes. I can even observing an atheist I can tell their motivations and actions are sinful and not righteous. I have yet to encounter an atheist or Christian who has not sinned and has not acted without selfish motives. However, believers can overcome sin and selfishness by the power of Jesus Christ.


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As somebody once said:

"When you have finished with the Lord's judgement seat, he would quite like it back."


Or if you prefer it from the pages of the Bible:

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

When did you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior?
Do you believe in Jesus as your Savior now?
Do you believe that sin can separate a believer from God?



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So you are saying that atheists have not done these sins?

I don't know anyone who hasn't experienced those sins. That's the issue with your stereotyping. These are not distinct to atheists at all.

Also, being an atheist brings with it absolutely no standards of behavior to be considered an atheist. Atheists aren't required to commit any certain number of sins to get their atheist card. If a person who refrains from all those sins (and others) to the absolute best of their ability, that person is as much an atheist as any other atheist.
 
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Again, I do not have to pretend I know all of your motives all on my own power or abilities alone. The Bible tells me the motives and actions of the atheist and they are not good. But yes. I can even observing an atheist I can tell their motivations and actions are sinful and not righteous. I have yet to encounter an atheist or Christian who has not sinned and has not acted without selfish motives. However, believers can overcome sin and selfishness by the power of Jesus Christ.
So, you're just here to preach, then.

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No, it wasn't as serious as that, but the information about Cor Caroli and similar stars did add value to my life at a time when I needed it.


You are about to take your own life, but were cheered up to learn that
49 years ago, there were other stars in the sky, shining down on you.
 
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I don't know anyone who hasn't experienced those sins. That's the issue with your stereotyping. These are not distinct to atheists at all.Also, being an atheist brings with it absolutely no standards of behavior to be considered an atheist. Atheists aren't required to commit any certain number of sins to get their atheist card. If a person who refrains from all those sins (and others) to the absolute best of their ability, that person is as much an atheist as any other atheist.

I guess it depends on my mood then which I'm going to hang with on the weekends.
 
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When did you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior?
Do you believe in Jesus as your Savior now?
Do you believe that sin can separate a believer from God?



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Tomorrow is Thursday, taken from the words Thor's Day. Are you going to accept Thor tomorrow?
 
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When did you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior?
Do you believe in Jesus as your Savior now?
Do you believe that sin can separate a believer from God?

I think priding yourself on your own righteousness can do more than anything to separate you from God, that's what I think.

"The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican....."

Maybe you should make a tape recording of yourself, play it back, and ask yourself whether you sound just a teensy weensy bit like that Pharisee.
 
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You are about to take your own life, but were cheered up to learn that
49 years ago, there were other stars in the sky, shining down on you.

It wasn't quite as bad as that, and it was 44½ years ago, not 49, but it was getting near to it; what I was learning about Cor Caroli and similar stars gave me a purpose in life and helped me through a bad patch.

However, this is getting off the point. RC 1970 said that it's just not possible to say something meaningful about something 39 light years away, not that it is not possible to say something about something 39 light years away that adds value to somebody's life. Statements about a star's distance, luminosity, composition, magnetic field and rotation period certainly mean something, at least in an astronomical and astrophysical context.

Also, astronomers (including myself) wouldn't study distant stars if our studies didn't add value (and not just monetary value) to our lives.
 
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It wasn't quite as bad as that, and it was 44½ years ago, not 49, but it was getting near to it; what I was learning about Cor Caroli and similar stars gave me a purpose in life and helped me through a bad patch.
However, this is getting off the point. RC 1970 said that it's just not possible to say something meaningful about something 39 light years away, not that it is not possible to say something about something 39 light years away that adds value to somebody's life. Statements about a star's distance, luminosity, composition, magnetic field and rotation period certainly mean something, at least in an astronomical and astrophysical context. Also, astronomers (including myself) wouldn't study distant stars if our studies didn't add value (and not just monetary value) to our lives.

If only it had some value to others.

1 Sirius Alp CMa -1.44 1.45 8.6 A1V 25 2.0 1.7 06h 45m -16.7°
2 Canopus Alp Car -0.62 -5.53 310 F0Ib 13600 8.5 65 06h 24m -52.7°
3 Rigil Kent. Alp Cen -0.28c 4.34 4.4 G2V+K1V 1.5 1.1 1.2 14h 40m -60.8°
4 Arcturus Alp Boo -0.05v -0.31 36.7 K2III 170 1.1 26 14h 16m +19.2°
5 Vega Alp Lyr 0.03v 0.58 25.3 A0V 37 2.1 2.3 18h 37m +38.8°
6 Capella Alp Aur 0.08v -0.48 42.2 G5III+G0II 79 2.7 12 05h 17m +46.0°
7 Rigel Bet Ori 0.18v -6.69 770 B8Ia 66000 17 78 05h 15m -8.2°
8 Procyon Alp CMi 0.40 2.68 11.4 F5IV-V 7.7 1.5 2.0 07h 39m +5.2°
9 Betelgeuse Alp Ori 0.45v -5.14 430 M2Ib 105000 18 936 05h 55m +7.4°
10 Achernar Alp Eri 0.45v -2.77 144 B3V 3300 6-8 10 01h 38m -57.2°
11 Hadar Bet Cen 0.61v -5.42 525 B1III 16000 10.7 8 14h 04m -60.4°
12 Altair Alp Aql 0.76v 2.20 16.8 A7V 10.6 1.8 1.8 19h 51m +8.9°
13 Acrux Alp Cru 0.77c -4.19 320 B0.5IV+B1V 25000 14 ? 12h 27m -63.1°
14 Aldebaran Alp Tau 0.87 -0.63 65.1 K5III 425 1.7 44.2 04h 36m +16.5°
15 Spica Alp Vir 0.98v -3.55 260 B1V+B2V 13400 11 7.8 13h 25m -11.2°
16 Antares Alp Sco 1.06v -5.28 605 M1Ib+B4V 65000 15.5 800 16h 29m -26.4°
17 Pollux Bet Gem 1.16 1.09 33.7 K0III 32 1.9 8 07h 45m +28.0°
18 Fomalhaut Alp PsA 1.17 1.74 25.1 A3V 17.7 2.1 1.8 22h 58m -29.6°
19 Deneb Alp Cyg 1.25v -8.73 3200 A2Ia 54000 20 110 20h 41m +45.3°
20 Mimosa Bet Cru 1.25v -3.92 350 B0.5III 34000 14 8 12h 48m -59.7°
21 Regulus Alp Leo 1.36 -0.52 77.5 B7V 150 3.5 3.2 10h 08m +12.0°
22 Adhara Eps CMa 1.50 -4.10 430 B2II 20000 10 ? 06h 59m -29.0°
23 Castor Alp Gem 1.58c 0.59 51.5 A1V+A2V 30/14 2.2/1.7 2.3/1.6 07h 35m +31.9°
24 Gacrux Gam Cru 1.59v -0.56 87.9 M3.5III 1500 3 113 12h 31m -57.1°
25 Shaula Lam Sco 1.62v -5.05 700 B2IV ? 10.4 6.2 17h 34m -37.1°
26 Bellatrix Gam Ori 1.64 -2.72 240 B2III 21500 8 5.7 05h 25m +6.3°
27 Elnath Bet Tau 1.65 -1.37 131 B7III 70 4.5 5.5 05h 26m +28.6°
28 Miaplacidus Bet Car 1.67 -0.99 111 A2III 210 3 5.7 09h 13m -69.7°
29 Alnilam Eps Ori 1.69v -6.38 1300 B0Ia 375000 40 26 05h 36m -1.2°
30 Alnair Alp Gru 1.73 -0.73 101 B7IV 380 4 3.6 22h 08m -47.0°
31 Alnitak Zet Ori 1.74c -5.26 820 O9.5Ib+B0I 100000 28 20 05h 41m -1.9°
32 Regor Gam Vel 1.75v -5.31 840 WC8+O9Ib 100000 30 13 08h 10m -47.3°
33 Alioth Eps UMa 1.76v -0.21 80.9 A0IV 108 3 3.7 12h 54m +56.0°
34 Kaus Aust. Eps Sgr 1.79 -1.44 145 B9.5III 375 5 7 18h 24m -34.4°
 
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I think priding yourself on your own righteousness can do more than anything to separate you from God, that's what I think.

"The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican....."

Maybe you should make a tape recording of yourself, play it back, and ask yourself whether you sound just a teensy weensy bit like that Pharisee.

The problem with the Pharisee is that he did not humble himself before God so as to confess of his sin to God like the Tax Collector did. The point of the parable is not that the Pharisee shouldn't have lived holy but that he did not cry out to God to have mercy on his sins to begin with and he was thinking he was better than the Tax Collector (When he did not humble himself before God). He was not humble like the tax collector in confessing his sin to God. Confessing sin to the Lord so as to be forgiven of sin is a practice as told us by the apostle John (See 1 John 2:1) (1 John 1:9). However, Jesus does not obviously condemn holy living. That wouldn't make any sense. For one of the reasons Christ gave Himself for us on the cross was for the purpose of making us live holy here upon this Earth. How so? It is written...

"Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works" (Titus 2:14).

25 "...even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
26 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."
(Ephesians 5:25-27).

"But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof." (Romans 13:14).

"And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;" (Hebrews 5:9).

"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." (1 John 1:7).

For GOD says, “Be ye holy as I am holy” (1 Peter 1:16 cf. Leviticus 11:45).

On the flip side, there are those believers who are like this:

"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate." (Titus 1:16).

For without holiness no man shall see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).

Again, you appeared to be threatened by my questions. I will ask them again.

When did you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior?
Do you believe in Jesus as your Savior now?
Do you believe that sin can separate a believer from God?

A basic time frame of when you accepted Christ as an answer to the first question and a simple "yes" or "no" as an answer to the last two questions will suffice. There is no need to lash out and try to attack me here if you are comfortable with these questions.

May God bless you.
And please be well.



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Tomorrow is Thursday, taken from the words Thor's Day. Are you going to accept Thor tomorrow?

You appear to feel threatened that a person should accept Jesus Christ.
Hence, why you are throwing out the insult.
This lets me know that you give credence to accepting the Lord.
Seeing this is the case, I encourage you today to accept Jesus as your personal Savior and be a changed and new person (Whereby you have a peace and a love like you have never known before).


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So, you're just here to preach, then.

nvm

Christians preach. It's what they do.

For they are given the following commands in Scripture,

"Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15).

"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." (2 Timothy 4:2).


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